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I'll start. Bill Walsh. Twice. LOL
Andy Reid got McNabb the same year he became coach of the eagles. He also got mahommes for the chiefs.
No. 3, DE Solomon Thomas, 49ers. Yup. That was our pick. We had mahommes available and passed. Difference between good player evaluation and good decision making is the same difference between champions and us. Kyle vs. Reid. Nuff said.
Reid was in the 49ers position in 21 (need an upgrade at QB), we were in a complete rebuild in 2017 and Mahomes wasn't even close to being considered as the best player in the draft or he would have went number 1
He was by Reid. That's why they traded up to get him.
It wasn't Reid who found Mahomes, it was Brett Veach. Veach was responsible for selling Andy and then selling GM John Dorsey and it was Dorsey who made the trade up the draft board on draft day.
Ok. But Shanahan wouldn't even evaluate mahommes per lynch.
Because they had a plan in place to go after Cousins in FA and getting a known commodity who could run the system. Instead of drafting and developing a QB in year one in a draft class that had only one consensus top 5/10 QB in the class according to most of your pundits and analysts in Mitch Trubisky, they decided to begin building the rest of the roster and attempting to pursue a veteran QB in there second off-season.
Did he make a mistake by overlooking the draft class ? Yes. But he did succeed in building that roster during his tenure and winning games without the elusive FQB.
A plan they immediately abandoned when someone offered them a QB with 2 starts under his belt in the last year of his contract for a 2nd rounder.
Abandoned due to the news that cousins would be franchised by the spiteful Wash owner
A promising QB became available at a very reasonable price and then played quite well for a really bad team. At the time the vast majority was on board with re-signing Jimmy over going after Cousins. Why? Because in the NFL there is nothing valued more than a QB's potential. A QB's potential can heal sick puppies and raise the dead. It's the glorious perfect unknown.
So here is the summary. Stubborn Kyle failed to evaluate the greatest talent in football then went after a qb who was not available then signed a guy who started two games went on to give him a contact he never earned then sold the farm to move up to 3 to get a guy with talent then gave up on him and a bunch of 1s and 2s to hope that the last pick of the draft is the real deal. Yup that's genius. He should definitely keep the keys to player selection and development.
If Brock plays a whole career like he played his first half season worth of games, then what does it matter how we got our franchise QB? Like, we just hit the lottery, getting a franchise QB with the last pick of the draft, and you arm chair GMs just love judging with the benefit of hindsight.
Kyle doesn't take the chance at a franchise QB and draft Trubisky/Watson/Mahomes. Damned if he doesn't.
Kyle sells the farm for the shot at a franchise QB in Lance. Damned if he does.
Drafting a QB is a crap shoot. For every Mahomes, there's a thousand other players who crap out. So Kyle was unlucky until he wasn't. That's how I see it. We're a Super Bowl roster with a potential franchise QB on a rookie contract, so I really don't see what the f**king problem is.
[ Edited by Chance on Sep 4, 2023 at 6:38 PM ]