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Originally posted by 49ers81:
Up by 20 points in the 4th and Shanahan kept feeding McCaffrey the ball. I don't get that at all. Mitchell and Mason have both shown they can get the job done when given the opportunity. Kyle did this last year too in that final stretch of games when both of the other guys were available. I have to confess that this is really starting to piss me off.

Probably didn't want the repeat of the Lions game or Mitchell isn't 100%
people forget Kyle specifically said he's not gonna pull starters early again after that 2021 season opener in DET when they almost blew a 28 pt lead.
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Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
27-7 . 3rd quarter..

McCaffrey still in.
Purdy. Kittle. Trent. Aiyuk.Deebo all still in.

Game is still in doubt. Today's NFL any team can come back from a 20-pt lead at almost anytime.

He still had them in near 6 minutes left in the fourth.

Mcaffrey should never get more than 15 rushes a game unless it's a critical must win or the playoffs. He was still hammering him up the middle up 3 scores.

If we win a SB it will be because we overcame shanahans weekly poor player management, bad challenges, and terrible timeout calls.

Wtf we calling timeout in the first quarter up multiple scores instead of just eating the 5 yards delay of game. Of have purdy just hike the ball and hand it off.

It's just typical shanahan. Doesn't call timeout on the big pass in the eagles game but burns them for no reason early in games up big.

Jesus walk on water shanny is worth at least 1-3 boneheaded coaching calls a game minimum.

Looking forward to your head coaching debut, player, management and clock management.
Cold Blooded Kyle didn't even have BCB end the game in victory formation, but Darnold lololol...
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Up by 20 points in the 4th and Shanahan kept feeding McCaffrey the ball. I don't get that at all. Mitchell and Mason have both shown they can get the job done when given the opportunity. Kyle did this last year too in that final stretch of games when both of the other guys were available. I have to confess that this is really starting to piss me off.

This is a legit concern indeed. 17-21 game season, there's really no need for this but stat padding. You've got to preserve these boys. Use the depth we clearly have.

On a side note, congrats on the fast start and the team looked well prepared, dominant and aggressive. That's a big deal.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Up by 20 points in the 4th and Shanahan kept feeding McCaffrey the ball. I don't get that at all. Mitchell and Mason have both shown they can get the job done when given the opportunity. Kyle did this last year too in that final stretch of games when both of the other guys were available. I have to confess that this is really starting to piss me off.

Probably didn't want the repeat of the Lions game or Mitchell isn't 100%

Mitchell certainly looked like he lost a step. I saw no burst on any of his runs.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Up by 20 points in the 4th and Shanahan kept feeding McCaffrey the ball. I don't get that at all. Mitchell and Mason have both shown they can get the job done when given the opportunity. Kyle did this last year too in that final stretch of games when both of the other guys were available. I have to confess that this is really starting to piss me off.

Probably didn't want the repeat of the Lions game or Mitchell isn't 100%

Mitchell certainly looked like he lost a step. I saw no burst on any of his runs.

I didn't see his usual burst either. Got me thinking he's on his way back but not 100% from the adductor
Dont know where to put this but after week 1

49ers, Chiefs, Eagles all are now at the highest odds to wint he SB
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Up by 20 points in the 4th and Shanahan kept feeding McCaffrey the ball. I don't get that at all. Mitchell and Mason have both shown they can get the job done when given the opportunity. Kyle did this last year too in that final stretch of games when both of the other guys were available. I have to confess that this is really starting to piss me off.

Probably didn't want the repeat of the Lions game or Mitchell isn't 100%

Mitchell certainly looked like he lost a step. I saw no burst on any of his runs.

I didn't see his usual burst either. Got me thinking he's on his way back but not 100% from the adductor

I hope that is the case. A little worried that it might be all the leg injuries starting to take a toll on him.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
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Moving all in on Jimmy after 5 games should be on that list imo. Wanting to moving the 2nd overall pick for Kirk (apparently) was a bit extreme also.

there were misses all over the place at QB. The whole process that got them to Lance and how it was handled was a mess. Now handing the keys to a loaded roster to Brock? I mean I'm here for it and to see where it goes…but overall it's been a lot of head scratching stuff at that position.

I also don't want a GM that's unwilling to listen to kyle. There's got to be cohesiveness there, like all the great regimes.

overall I'm complaining about one thing, it's been a bunch of good & we're in a great spot.

Jimmy contract was completely normal in my opinion. It was the timing of his FA, and the fact that he played really well and almost immediately helped reset the culture around the team. Of course they signed him. So would a traditional GM.

I'd agree to add in that trade for Cousins if it is actually real. It's the first we're hearing of it now and I'm not sold that it's legitimate just yet.

Brock played great… absolutely nothing odd about their decision to roll with him, and they did buy some insurance in any case.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I don't think the jimmy contract was a big deal. He may not of lived up to it but it isn't like he was terrible either. When he was healthy, we made it to the NFCC/Super bowl. Regardless of if someone wants to argue if he was good or not, he wasn't bad. He really helped with our culture, the guys loved him. He helped us win a lot of games by doing little things right at qb. He was limited overall but still good as a whole. Best qb we've had in a long long time, IMO. He also handled the whole qb situation as well as you could of asked him to, even when it was probably pretty embarrassing and eventually hopeless for him. Especially when you compare it to how Lance handled it when he didn't win the backup spot, immediately wanted out.

in other words, he didn't live up to the contact but he didn't drastically underplay it either. He was paid like a top 5-8 qb most years and I'd say he was in the 9-12 range for the most part.

id agree that it was a miss as a whole but wasn't a terrible miss. The Lance trade up/selection was horrific, an easy F-. I'd grade the jimmy situation as a B- or B. At least SOMETHING good came from jimmy and he helped us win a lot of games.

If we could go back and rewrite that contract, you'd probably want some injury clauses in there for some bonus reductions. What the 49ers and ShanaLynch didn't know at the time was Jimmy's atrocious durability. If not for Jimmy's durability issues, he'd still be the 49ers QB. And no Brock Purdy or Trey Lance, in my opinion. Jimmy is only 31, so if he was 100% healthy, I'd say Kyle wouldn't be in the market for a new QB at least until 2025.

I'd agree with you on this but I think there is more to this story than we know, and probably won't find out until someone writes a book or so. I think Jimmy frustrated Kyle, and vice versa, more than we know. I think they had a lot of friction and see the game different - I also think jimmy wanted more control and influence over the offense and Kyle didn't trust him to do it, cause they saw it all differently. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, I just don't think it was the best personality match.

i think Brock and Kyle are a lot more cohesive and confident in each other and the way they see the game. That's just my guess and interpretation.

Kyle's had that same *control* issue with Matt Ryan, and one reason is that Matt Ryan wanted to stay with some of what he learned from the previous offense. Keep in mind this offense Jimmy's was in wasn't his first offense. Jimmy came from the Bill Belichick offense:

[Wikipedia]The Patriots run a modified "Ron Erhardt-Ray Perkins" offensive system[1] first installed by Charlie Weis under Bill Belichick. Both Ron Erhardt and Ray Perkins served as offensive assistant coaches under the defensive-minded Chuck Fairbanks while he was head coach of the Patriots in the 1970s.[1] This system is known for its multiple formation and personnel grouping variations on a core number of base plays. Under this system, each formation and each play are separately numbered. Additional word descriptions further modify each play.
Basically the offense Jimmy came from is more of a 4 and 5 wide offense with the running attack not being predominant. It's not a run first offense like Kyle's offense. I think that Jimmy just didn't know or didn't have a knack for the offense like Purdy did. Personally, I think Jimmy was just slow in learning this complicated offense. Just my opinion, of course.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, I think they if you don't have a "franchise qb", you should continually try and draft one in the mid to late rounds and see if you get lucky eventually.

we drafted Brock because Kyle wanted a young guy to mold on the roster, it really had nothing to do with jimmy or Brock. I think it was partially due to having a cheap qb on the backend that has been in the system if we need him. We just got lucky Brock has been such a baller. Lol

Brock Purdy was nearly an undrafted free agent like Brock Rutter - who I think is out of football now. I think Kyle just got lucky in picking Purdy. He hit the jackpot/lotto so to speak. I think Kyle wanted a backup QB to backup Trey Lance after Jimmy's 49ers contract is over, so he drafted Purdy. Trey Lance was the starter, and probably still would be the starter but for Purdy. Just that Lance (without Purdy) would still be getting the Reps like Zach Wilson behind Aaron Rogers. Now with the 49ers It would probably be Sam Darnold as the starting QB, and Trey Lance backing him up as QB2, like it is with the Jets and Zach Wilson.
Shanahan should be beaten for leaving McCaffrey and Williams in with 6 minutes left in the 4th. It's that kind of stupidity that will lose him a championship.
I thought Kyles dominating win over the Steelers would unite fans but there's still some butt hurt fans in here
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Shanahan should be beaten for leaving McCaffrey and Williams in with 6 minutes left in the 4th. It's that kind of stupidity that will lose him a championship.

No matter what he does fans will complain. That is obvious. Leave the starters in, see above. Pull the starters, 'Kyle doesn't know how to finish games' blah blah blah
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Up by 20 points in the 4th and Shanahan kept feeding McCaffrey the ball. I don't get that at all. Mitchell and Mason have both shown they can get the job done when given the opportunity. Kyle did this last year too in that final stretch of games when both of the other guys were available. I have to confess that this is really starting to piss me off.

This is a legit concern indeed. 17-21 game season, there's really no need for this but stat padding. You've got to preserve these boys. Use the depth we clearly have.

On a side note, congrats on the fast start and the team looked well prepared, dominant and aggressive. That's a big deal.

No you don't. Not the 1st game. You are giving the next team additional tape to game plan against,...keeping them busy, if you will.

And we haven't secured a playoff birth just yet either, nor was CMC brought here to get 10 touches a game.

This is just another case of microanalysis IMO. Meanwhile Kyle is the one actually there using the film to gameplan against our next opponent.
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