49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Can someone explain to me why Mitchell is getting zero run??

we got 23.. all is forgotten..

I hope Kyle doesn't run him Into ground before we reach the playoffs. It's Important to keep him fresh for that super bowl run

FULLY AGREE... not sure why we can't sue our 3rd round pick to run some plays.. or what Mason.. and or even 44??

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I expect the exponentially more talented team to have dominated this game. Yet coaching keeps these games close when they dont need to be. The only reason we won this game

1. Turnovers
2. Kyle making the right call to for it before the half (yes I give him credit)
3. Niners are more talented.

I'm sticking with this. Mcvay had his team way more ready to play than shanahan.

You don't think Kyle talks about Turnovers to his team? He even mentions it in his speech in the locker room after the win. So I'm pretty sure he coaches his team somewhat about getting turnovers and limiting them.



Did Mcvay have his team more ready to lose ? lol

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I expect the exponentially more talented team to have dominated this game. Yet coaching keeps these games close when they dont need to be. The only reason we won this game

1. Turnovers
2. Kyle making the right call to for it before the half (yes I give him credit)
3. Niners are more talented.

I'm sticking with this. Mcvay had his team way more ready to play than shanahan.

Purdy missed a couple big shots. I don't recall the game situation on those throws, but IIRC, they were on drives where we had to punt or kick field goals. They were the right calls and Purdy just missed them. Perhaps if he hit them, the offense puts up 33-40 points, rather than the 30 we did. All in all, I don't really have any complaints with the offense, besides the sloppy 4 minute offense at the end of the game. Mind you, 30 points is already a very high number. As a point of reference, the league leader in points scored last year was the Chiefs at 29 ppg.

I will say that it was disappointing how easy the Rams were able to march down the field in the first half, but that's how they've chosen to attack us since the NFCCG two seasons ago. A short passing game is the only thing that will work for them because we're so good at taking away the deep ball, and negates our pass rush. And Matthew Stafford is a very good QB in the NFL. But long 10+ drives are also very hard to sustain over the course of the game. They weren't able to keep it up in the second half. Penalties, drops, and some second half adjustments essentially took the wind out of their sails.
I do have a question on why we played so much off-coverage, but that's something for our film guys to answer.

All in all, being up by 10 with less than 3 minutes to play isn't so bad against a potential playoff team. Once we got to that point in the game, the dink and dunk offense loses its efficacy because it takes too much time off the clock. The 3 points in the end were pretty meaningless.

All in all, I think my only major complaint at the moment is CMC's usage.
23 touches against the Rams and 25 against the Steelers is a bit much... Would hope we can get him in the 15-20 range during the regular season. Save that heavy usage for the playoffs.

Shanahan explained the substitution process today. It's just odd to me that we have both Anthony Lynn as RB coach/Assistant HC, AND Bobby Turner, RB coach. They certainly have two talented RB coaches that can communicate with Shanahan on the rotation on gameday.

Originally posted by Wubbie:
All in all, I think my only major complaint at the moment is CMC's usage.
23 touches against the Rams and 25 against the Steelers is a bit much... Would hope we can get him in the 15-20 range during the regular season. Save that heavy usage for the playoffs.

Shanahan explained the substitution process today. It's just odd to me that we have both Anthony Lynn as RB coach/Assistant HC, AND Bobby Turner, RB coach. They certainly have two talented RB coaches that can communicate with Shanahan on the rotation on gameday.

Jordan Mason my understanding dressed 2 games
and has 0 offensive snaps, strictly special teams

I think we can strike a better balance here, CMC is the dude, but these other guys can have more of a gameday role so they are dialed in to what we are doing offensively, and CMC is kept a lil fresher.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
All in all, I think my only major complaint at the moment is CMC's usage.
23 touches against the Rams and 25 against the Steelers is a bit much... Would hope we can get him in the 15-20 range during the regular season. Save that heavy usage for the playoffs.

Shanahan explained the substitution process today. It's just odd to me that we have both Anthony Lynn as RB coach/Assistant HC, AND Bobby Turner, RB coach. They certainly have two talented RB coaches that can communicate with Shanahan on the rotation on gameday.

Jordan Mason my understanding dressed 2 games
and has 0 offensive snaps, strictly special teams

I think we can strike a better balance here, CMC is the dude, but these other guys can have more of a gameday role so they are dialed in to what we are doing offensively, and CMC is kept a lil fresher.

Yeah, CMC is definitely the dude. I get why he gets a heavy usage... our offense can do ANYTHING when he gets onto the field.
But it's not the worst thing to have Elijah Mitchell. Pre-CMC, he was our starter and is a very good RB in his own right.

Jordan Mason definitely should've seen some action against the Steelers. Sure, he can't do all the things that CMC does, but he's a great inside runner.

Two points about KS in this game.

#1 - Overusing McM. This is really a no-brainer!!!

#2 - GREAT call going for the TD at the end of the first half. He wouldn't have done it in years past.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
All in all, I think my only major complaint at the moment is CMC's usage.
23 touches against the Rams and 25 against the Steelers is a bit much... Would hope we can get him in the 15-20 range during the regular season. Save that heavy usage for the playoffs.

Shanahan explained the substitution process today. It's just odd to me that we have both Anthony Lynn as RB coach/Assistant HC, AND Bobby Turner, RB coach. They certainly have two talented RB coaches that can communicate with Shanahan on the rotation on gameday.

Jordan Mason my understanding dressed 2 games
and has 0 offensive snaps, strictly special teams

I think we can strike a better balance here, CMC is the dude, but these other guys can have more of a gameday role so they are dialed in to what we are doing offensively, and CMC is kept a lil fresher.

Yeah, CMC is definitely the dude. I get why he gets a heavy usage... our offense can do ANYTHING when he gets onto the field.
But it's not the worst thing to have Elijah Mitchell. Pre-CMC, he was our starter and is a very good RB in his own right.

Jordan Mason definitely should've seen some action against the Steelers. Sure, he can't do all the things that CMC does, but he's a great inside runner.

4th qtr should be Mason time, if we are up he is a bruiser and can salt away games.. Jordan 'The Closer' Mason

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I expect the exponentially more talented team to have dominated this game. Yet coaching keeps these games close when they dont need to be. The only reason we won this game

1. Turnovers
2. Kyle making the right call to for it before the half (yes I give him credit)
3. Niners are more talented.

I'm sticking with this. Mcvay had his team way more ready to play than shanahan.

You don't think Kyle talks about Turnovers to his team? He even mentions it in his speech in the locker room after the win. So I'm pretty sure he coaches his team somewhat about getting turnovers and limiting them.



Did Mcvay have his team more ready to lose ? lol

Mcvay had his team way more ready to lose than Kyle.

i guess...

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

12th straight win and bums in the gameday thread calling for him to get fired

unreal

Takes 0 football knowledge to get an account here on the zone and many posters prove it.

According to Kyle, from an article in the newsfeed.

"49ers' Kyle Shanahan: We have to do better with our RB rotation"

Oh, you think? That has been the thing that's pissed me off the most about these first two games. Too much McCaffrey and not enough Mason and Mitchell. I get that McCaffrey's a stud, but there's no excuse for Kyle running him as much as he has to the exclusion of everyone else. McCaffrey took a lot of pounding against the Rams, I would have much rather seen Mason in there for a handful of snaps. The whole, "well Detroit almost came back against us", canard is just a lot of BS as far as I'm concerned. It would be easy enough to substitute Mitchell and Mason in through the course of the game so that McCaffrey isn't carrying so much of the load.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
All in all, I think my only major complaint at the moment is CMC's usage.
23 touches against the Rams and 25 against the Steelers is a bit much... Would hope we can get him in the 15-20 range during the regular season. Save that heavy usage for the playoffs.

Shanahan explained the substitution process today. It's just odd to me that we have both Anthony Lynn as RB coach/Assistant HC, AND Bobby Turner, RB coach. They certainly have two talented RB coaches that can communicate with Shanahan on the rotation on gameday.

Jordan Mason my understanding dressed 2 games
and has 0 offensive snaps, strictly special teams

I think we can strike a better balance here, CMC is the dude, but these other guys can have more of a gameday role so they are dialed in to what we are doing offensively, and CMC is kept a lil fresher.

Yeah, CMC is definitely the dude. I get why he gets a heavy usage... our offense can do ANYTHING when he gets onto the field.
But it's not the worst thing to have Elijah Mitchell. Pre-CMC, he was our starter and is a very good RB in his own right.

Jordan Mason definitely should've seen some action against the Steelers. Sure, he can't do all the things that CMC does, but he's a great inside runner.

4th qtr should be Mason time, if we are up he is a bruiser and can salt away games.. Jordan 'The Closer' Mason

Shanny reads the zone. Yes, his rotations got microscopic. Needs to snap out of it.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kyle-shanahan-we-have-to-do-a-better-job-with-the-rb-rotation

Originally posted by 49ers81:
According to Kyle, from an article in the newsfeed.

"49ers' Kyle Shanahan: We have to do better with our RB rotation"

Oh, you think? That has been the thing that's pissed me off the most about these first two games. Too much McCaffrey and not enough Mason and Mitchell. I get that McCaffrey's a stud, but there's no excuse for Kyle running him as much as he has to the exclusion of everyone else. McCaffrey took a lot of pounding against the Rams, I would have much rather seen Mason in there for a handful of snaps. The whole, "well Detroit almost came back against us", canard is just a lot of BS as far as I'm concerned. It would be easy enough to substitute Mitchell and Mason in through the course of the game so that McCaffrey isn't carrying so much of the load.

Just give a drive here and there to those other guys
+1 for the word canard

Originally posted by 49ers81:
According to Kyle, from an article in the newsfeed.

"49ers' Kyle Shanahan: We have to do better with our RB rotation"

Oh, you think? That has been the thing that's pissed me off the most about these first two games. Too much McCaffrey and not enough Mason and Mitchell. I get that McCaffrey's a stud, but there's no excuse for Kyle running him as much as he has to the exclusion of everyone else. McCaffrey took a lot of pounding against the Rams, I would have much rather seen Mason in there for a handful of snaps. The whole, "well Detroit almost came back against us", canard is just a lot of BS as far as I'm concerned. It would be easy enough to substitute Mitchell and Mason in through the course of the game so that McCaffrey isn't carrying so much of the load.

Perhaps KS knows something we dont...ie ball security etc.

it is frustrating to a fan.

Originally posted by picklejuice:
please kyle im getting very old and gray like gandalf. i need to see a 49ers superbowl win...

Sure hopes he gets it here and not his second stop like Andy Reid.

I predict he will be the Bronco's coach when he leaves here.