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Sep 19, 2023 at 5:06 PM

TheWooLick
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Its why qbr and passer ratings suck

gotta use efficiency metrics

I like the eye test

I saw 5 yards per reception.

I am just gon a have to agree to disagree with the folks here praising Stafford for having a great game against us.

Sep 19, 2023 at 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I saw 5 yards per reception.

I am just gon a have to agree to disagree with the folks here praising Stafford for having a great game against us.

What was about about is performance that you didn't actually think was good... from an individual perspective? What was he failing to do from a fundamental standpoint?

YPA, like almost every other stat is a team influenced stat. A QB can play very well and not have a strong YPA. A QB can play poorly and have a good one. This is magnified in a small sample.

[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Sep 19, 2023 at 5:09 PM ]

Sep 19, 2023 at 5:21 PM

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I saw 5 yards per reception.

I am just gon a have to agree to disagree with the folks here praising Stafford for having a great game against us.

The two picks hurt his ratings, even though the first pick wasn't his fault

Sep 19, 2023 at 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I saw 5 yards per reception.

I am just gon a have to agree to disagree with the folks here praising Stafford for having a great game against us.

What was about about is performance that you didn't actually think was good... from an individual perspective? What was he failing to do from a fundamental standpoint?

YPA, like almost every other stat is a team influenced stat. A QB can play very well and not have a strong YPA. A QB can play poorly and have a good one. This is magnified in a small sample.

Stafford has a poopy face, that's why

Sep 19, 2023 at 7:22 PM

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Its why qbr and passer ratings suck

gotta use efficiency metrics

I like the eye test

I saw 5 yards per reception.

I am just gon a have to agree to disagree with the folks here praising Stafford for having a great game against us.

Nobody said great. Here you again.

He played well, he definitely wasn't the reason they lost.

But I get it, you're going to hold on to Stafford is a loser and can't win the playoffs -- Jimmy >>> Stafford -- no matter f**king what dude. Just who you are

[ Edited by GoreGoreGore on Sep 19, 2023 at 7:24 PM ]

Sep 19, 2023 at 7:41 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
What was about about is performance that you didn't actually think was good... from an individual perspective? What was he failing to do from a fundamental standpoint?

YPA, like almost every other stat is a team influenced stat. A QB can play very well and not have a strong YPA. A QB can play poorly and have a good one. This is magnified in a small sample.

The INTs, 5 yards per reception with a 60% completion rate, the second half drives in general.

Sep 19, 2023 at 7:50 PM

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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Nobody said great. Here you again.
He played well, he definitely wasn't the reason they lost.
Niner Talk
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/
But I get it, you're going to hold on to Stafford is a loser and can't win the playoffs -- Jimmy >>> Stafford -- no matter f**king what dude. Just who you are

9ers4eva said he executed at a high level.

Phoenix said he played a damn good game.

Jimmy who?

Stafford lucked into a SB, I acknowledged he surpassed my expectations when they won.

Sep 19, 2023 at 9:22 PM

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Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Nobody said great. Here you again.
He played well, he definitely wasn't the reason they lost.
Niner Talk
https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/
But I get it, you're going to hold on to Stafford is a loser and can't win the playoffs -- Jimmy >>> Stafford -- no matter f**king what dude. Just who you are

9ers4eva said he executed at a high level.

Phoenix said he played a damn good game.

Jimmy who?

Stafford lucked into a SB, I acknowledged he surpassed my expectations when they won.

I have no damn idea how you "luck" into a SB. Do you really understand football and how hard it is to win a SB? Especially being on a new team? What him and Brady did is pretty damn impressive. Idk how many other QBs go to start for a new team and win the SB.

Stafford has always been a very good QB. The Lions have been the worst organization in football for many many years and that matters a lot. Calling him a loser like you did is like calling Smith a loser bc he had Nolan/Singletary.

Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM

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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Same, if you know what to look for - it's usually evident.

The good thing is there's so much content available to a fan where a pro will be analyzing and explaining film... like JTO's channel for example. You don't have to know what you are looking at when someone holds your hand. But it takes a lot more effort than reading box scores or researching surface level analytics.

You cannot get a real read on play from statistics. They can point you in a direction to research further with film and that's about it.

Agree 💯%, Stats only give you a certain viewpoint on a game. To really understand what happened - you have to watch the game. Having said that, statistics do reveal hidden things you can't really see on film -- so they are very important. But *not* more important than watching film. They are both important. You really won't have a really good understanding of the game if you just do one or the other.

Sep 20, 2023 at 3:23 AM

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Shanahan, 43, has established himself as one of the top coaches in the NFL, while Sanders, 56, has quickly made his mark in his first season in the FBS ranks as coach of unbeaten Colorado
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/49ers-shanahan-enjoys-watching-sanders-success-with-colorado/1656325/

Deion is unbeaten at Colorado?

Wow!

I'm hoping we can get Deion on the 49ers coaching staff if we lose either Anthony Lynn or Wilks!

Sep 20, 2023 at 3:47 AM

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Originally posted by Giedi:

Shanahan, 43, has established himself as one of the top coaches in the NFL, while Sanders, 56, has quickly made his mark in his first season in the FBS ranks as coach of unbeaten Colorado
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/49ers-shanahan-enjoys-watching-sanders-success-with-colorado/1656325/
Deion is unbeaten at Colorado? Wow!

I'm hoping we can get Deion on the 49ers coaching staff if we lose either Anthony Lynn or Wilks!

Deion is a recruiter. He is perfect for college. Does he even coach? Every time I see him on the sideines he has his microphone up and is just listening to what's going on.

Sep 20, 2023 at 4:17 AM

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Lucked into a SB...

Sep 20, 2023 at 4:19 AM

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Originally posted by krizay:
Deion is a recruiter. He is perfect for college. Does he even coach? Every time I see him on the sideines he has his microphone up and is just listening to what's going on.

he said he has no desire to coach in the NFL dor this reason pretty much

Sep 20, 2023 at 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by krizay:
Deion is a recruiter. He is perfect for college. Does he even coach? Every time I see him on the sideines he has his microphone up and is just listening to what's going on.

he said he has no desire to coach in the NFL dor this reason pretty much

Yeah, I think he's a great motivator but his coaching deficiencies will catch up with him at some point.

Sep 20, 2023 at 4:27 AM

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Giedi
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Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Shanahan, 43, has established himself as one of the top coaches in the NFL, while Sanders, 56, has quickly made his mark in his first season in the FBS ranks as coach of unbeaten Colorado
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/49ers-shanahan-enjoys-watching-sanders-success-with-colorado/1656325/
Deion is unbeaten at Colorado? Wow!

I'm hoping we can get Deion on the 49ers coaching staff if we lose either Anthony Lynn or Wilks!

Deion is a recruiter. He is perfect for college. Does he even coach? Every time I see him on the sideines he has his microphone up and is just listening to what's going on.

All i know is that he's unbeaten (for now) and he was a great player for us. He's a winner wherever he's been. I think he's smart enough to learn the X's and O's. Specially if Kyle gives him those X's and O's. College is basically a recruiting game, so I'm not docking him for being good at it. I think he'd be a great defensive coordinator, if he's willing to learn be an NFL position coach first.