49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Viperboy:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
I completely disagree I feel the 49ers were clearly better than the Chiefs aswell and considering the circumstances blowing that leaf was worse.

There's a separate thread for blowing leaf.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Kyle made lemons into lemonade

Harbs made filet mignon into a 2 dollar steak

I prefer Kyle but I definitely disagree with this.

And one significant difference is Harbaugh did not have personnel control here while Kyle does. Kyle can honestly thank Jim and the f**ked up years that followed his tenure here for that.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
control doesn't have anything to do with what the coaches do when they have that player already

i also don't believe Harb had no control of who played on his team

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
some in the Harb thread have Harb over shanny .. lol

If Harbs was so damn good we would've found a way to make it work somehow.....

Instead we suffered losing to the Giants, came woefully prepared against Baltimore, and had Seattle kick our ass every time we weren't in Candlestick.

So for all these guys who keep saying, KYLE CAN'T WIN THE BIG ONE...........let me tell you.........Harbaugh needed 1000x more to go RIGHT to win the big one.

And maybe Harbaugh didn't have the QB......

But neither did Kyle.....

Until now.

They both had the QB of their choosing,and Kyle had a 10 point lead with around 8 minutes to go and the ball vs the Chiefs that's an awfully strong position to be in and lose the game.

Huh? Jimmy was Lynch's choice and talked Kyle into it. That's been well documented. Kyle had to approve obviously but it's not like Kyle was the one who said give me Jimmy. And two years later he was already flirting with multiple other QBs.

The fact that he had to approve the trade made it his decision and equates to him saying give me Jimmy regardless of how he came to that decision.

that is not the same as "choosing their QBs"

It absolutely is he had a choice and he made said choice pretty simple.

a choice and choosing from a variety options are not the same at all

Choice- an act of selecting or making a decision
when faced with two or more possibilities.

now do Choose

Are you not capable?

oh i am, you purposely left it off. it's all good though

I didn't leave anything off,if you had a point to make you'd make it instead of saying it's all good.

Lol you are making this too complicated.

If I'm at a restaurant and idk what to do order, and the waiter tells me, our "XYZ is good and its a good value ($$$)" I might say let's do it.

But that doesn't mean I actually chose that meal. It was offered to me, sounded pretty good, and I agreed to it. I didn't go in there and say, I want a Hamburger w/cheese (Kirk Cousins)

Does this make sense lol?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
control doesn't have anything to do with what the coaches do when they have that player already

i also don't believe Harb had no control of who played on his team

He had no control. That's not to say he didn't have input and that Baalke and CO. wouldn't have made specific decisions based on it. No doubt that happened, early at least. Think the whole relationship went south because Harb wanted control (rightly). It's arguably his biggest strength as demonstrated throughout his career. He's a team and staff builder. Those are good qualities.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I prefer Kyle but I definitely disagree with this.

And one significant difference is Harbaugh did not have personnel control here while Kyle does. Kyle can honestly thank Jim and the f**ked up years that followed his tenure here for that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Had Harbs had personnel control with his buddy Mike Lombardi I don't think there would've been any improvement whatsoever in team construction.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Who knows. I think it's safe to say based on Harbs behavior he doesn't draft AJ Jenkins and LMJ, lol.

The most important thing is it likely removes the franchise damaging conflict that happened in reality.

It was never going to happen regardless.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Does draft Kap and Vance McDonald however. I'm still dubious on his ability to pick offensive players.

Also I remember Lombardi on Bill Simmons podcast talking about what he would've done day 1. Trade for Brian Hoyer. Not an Alex Smith guy but I don't think 2011 happens with Brian Hoyer.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I personally like the Kaep pick. He was a high 2nd rounder with dual threat talent, and we got a return. Kaep's trajectory could have been different even as a limited QB.

I certainly wouldn't have loved trading for Hoyer, lol.

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
some in the Harb thread have Harb over shanny .. lol

If Harbs was so damn good we would've found a way to make it work somehow.....

Instead we suffered losing to the Giants, came woefully prepared against Baltimore, and had Seattle kick our ass every time we weren't in Candlestick.

So for all these guys who keep saying, KYLE CAN'T WIN THE BIG ONE...........let me tell you.........Harbaugh needed 1000x more to go RIGHT to win the big one.

And maybe Harbaugh didn't have the QB......

But neither did Kyle.....

Until now.

Originally posted by picklejuice:

Two minutes of Trevor Lawrence just missing touchdown passes this season 💀

(via: @Ihartitz)
pic.twitter.com/45wjYNWvEj

— JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) January 9, 2024

im glad kyle has some sort of eye finding WRs...unlike trent baalke you bum how do you still have a job

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by picklejuice:

Two minutes of Trevor Lawrence just missing touchdown passes this season 💀

(via: @Ihartitz)
pic.twitter.com/45wjYNWvEj

— JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) January 9, 2024

im glad kyle has some sort of eye finding WRs...unlike trent baalke you bum how do you still have a job

Lol Pantene Lawrence, overrated

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Game recognize game.

I asked Peyton Manning: If he could play for a modern NFL coach, who would it be?
"I'm probably headed out to San Francisco." Peyton watched *two hours* of film with Kyle Shanahan in 2012 during his free agency. This breakdown is so good. THIS IS FOOTBALL is elite today. pic.twitter.com/U39xc0vWx8

— Kevin Clark (@bykevinclark) January 9, 2024

Manning also passed on Harbaugh.

some in the Harb thread have Harb over shanny .. lol

I liked Harb's grit but Shanahan is a much better coach, now let's hope they *both* win the big one.