49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Per matt Miller

Mike LaFleur, Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan scheming the offense in San Francisco. That's a reason for excitement, @49ers

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
2 hours until the presser.

Three.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Per matt Miller

Mike LaFleur, Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan scheming the offense in San Francisco. That's a reason for excitement, @49ers

Points, points, and more points. Now just need a defense that wont gas.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Per matt Miller

Mike LaFleur, Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan scheming the offense in San Francisco. That's a reason for excitement, @49ers

can we at least wait and see before we get excited?

don't forget that we have no Matty Ice and Julio Jones up in here..

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

2 hours until the presser.

Three.

2...

The true value of KS will be in what he brings and what he has learned, particularly in this playoff run, and how he applies it to the future.

The SB loss will be bitter for a long time. Should not have happened. Numerous reasons why it did, and one of them, much discussed, is Kyle's play calling at the end of the SB game. Those were not good but I believe he may look back and realize he made an even bigger mistake in the plays he called in the Green Bay game. Here is my point:

By the middle of the second quarter in the SB, Belichick had not only been adjusting to calls in that game, but had already taken away some of the stuff that worked well in the Green Bay game. In the GB game, I read that Kyle went through 27 plays at the beginning of the game before he repeated the same alignment/play calls. Everything was different. It was like he was the king of the palace showing off all his wealth to the visitors. The result was that Belichick had a great amount of film on the diversity of Kyle's offense. As a result, there was little Atlanta brought that NE staff had not already seen and prepared for. Yes, the Falcons jumped up to a big lead but 7 points were from the defense. The offense did not even come close to their 30+ point average from the regular season. NE was shutting down a lot of the stuff that worked against Green Bay. Much of the offensive success was due to spectacular individual effort rather than creating confusion in NE.

A cardinal rule in poker is; don't show any more of your cards than you must in order to win the hand. Kyle violated that rule. He showed his entire hand, or at least a great deal of it, in the Green Bay game. The result was that Belichick knew exactly what he had to do to win before the game ever started.

Bill Walsh recalled how he always saved plays for times where the game hung in the balance. In the case of certain new plays, he would save them for 4 or 5 games before he used them. One of the key plays in the Catch game was a run play they had never run before. It took Dallas by surprise and the rest is history.

So, if Kyle has not already done so, I hope he looks back at the entire run to see what he can learn. He has a very creative mind and I hope he uses it to learn how to be a better poker player at the big table.

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by saniner:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
I watched the intro video a few times now and must ask this....

Who does Kyle Shanahan remind you of, VOICE wise?

Hint: He played for SF.

Alex Smith

Holy sh-t he DOES sound like Alex Smith.

dont disrespect Shanny that way

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Per matt Miller

Mike LaFleur, Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan scheming the offense in San Francisco. That's a reason for excitement, @49ers

can we at least wait and see before we get excited?

don't forget that we have no Matty Ice and Julio Jones up in here..

It's ok to get excited,just know that we as fans will need patience. It may take a while or it make come quick before we get back to the top. Just don't get your hopes to high.

Originally posted by dj43:

The true value of KS will be in what he brings and what he has learned, particularly in this playoff run, and how he applies it to the future.

The SB loss will be bitter for a long time. Should not have happened. Numerous reasons why it did, and one of them, much discussed, is Kyle's play calling at the end of the SB game. Those were not good but I believe he may look back and realize he made an even bigger mistake in the plays he called in the Green Bay game. Here is my point:

By the middle of the second quarter in the SB, Belichick had not only been adjusting to calls in that game, but had already taken away some of the stuff that worked well in the Green Bay game. In the GB game, I read that Kyle went through 27 plays at the beginning of the game before he repeated the same alignment/play calls. Everything was different. It was like he was the king of the palace showing off all his wealth to the visitors. The result was that Belichick had a great amount of film on the diversity of Kyle's offense. As a result, there was little Atlanta brought that NE staff had not already seen and prepared for. Yes, the Falcons jumped up to a big lead but 7 points were from the defense. The offense did not even come close to their 30+ point average from the regular season. NE was shutting down a lot of the stuff that worked against Green Bay. Much of the offensive success was due to spectacular individual effort rather than creating confusion in NE.

A cardinal rule in poker is; don't show any more of your cards than you must in order to win the hand. Kyle violated that rule. He showed his entire hand, or at least a great deal of it, in the Green Bay game. The result was that Belichick knew exactly what he had to do to win before the game ever started.

Bill Walsh recalled how he always saved plays for times where the game hung in the balance. In the case of certain new plays, he would save them for 4 or 5 games before he used them. One of the key plays in the Catch game was a run play they had never run before. It took Dallas by surprise and the rest is history.

So, if Kyle has not already done so, I hope he looks back at the entire run to see what he can learn. He has a very creative mind and I hope he uses it to learn how to be a better poker player at the big table.

I get what your saying, but how do we know he showed his whole hand. He only had 45 plays and generated near 350 yards and 3 TDs. Regardless of the GB game, there was almost 1100 plays on film Belichek could have looked at. Even the last drive had 2 gash plays before being stopped.

IMO, what happened in the Super Bowl was the deterioration of the OL due to injury and that resulted in a containment of the ground game and a spotty pass pro. That's a hard way to live and even still they were a Matt Ryan very bad sack away from icing the game.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by dj43:
The true value of KS will be in what he brings and what he has learned, particularly in this playoff run, and how he applies it to the future.

The SB loss will be bitter for a long time. Should not have happened. Numerous reasons why it did, and one of them, much discussed, is Kyle's play calling at the end of the SB game. Those were not good but I believe he may look back and realize he made an even bigger mistake in the plays he called in the Green Bay game. Here is my point:

By the middle of the second quarter in the SB, Belichick had not only been adjusting to calls in that game, but had already taken away some of the stuff that worked well in the Green Bay game. In the GB game, I read that Kyle went through 27 plays at the beginning of the game before he repeated the same alignment/play calls. Everything was different. It was like he was the king of the palace showing off all his wealth to the visitors. The result was that Belichick had a great amount of film on the diversity of Kyle's offense. As a result, there was little Atlanta brought that NE staff had not already seen and prepared for. Yes, the Falcons jumped up to a big lead but 7 points were from the defense. The offense did not even come close to their 30+ point average from the regular season. NE was shutting down a lot of the stuff that worked against Green Bay. Much of the offensive success was due to spectacular individual effort rather than creating confusion in NE.

A cardinal rule in poker is; don't show any more of your cards than you must in order to win the hand. Kyle violated that rule. He showed his entire hand, or at least a great deal of it, in the Green Bay game. The result was that Belichick knew exactly what he had to do to win before the game ever started.

Bill Walsh recalled how he always saved plays for times where the game hung in the balance. In the case of certain new plays, he would save them for 4 or 5 games before he used them. One of the key plays in the Catch game was a run play they had never run before. It took Dallas by surprise and the rest is history.

So, if Kyle has not already done so, I hope he looks back at the entire run to see what he can learn. He has a very creative mind and I hope he uses it to learn how to be a better poker player at the big table.

I get what your saying, but how do we know he showed his whole hand. He only had 45 plays and generated near 350 yards and 3 TDs. Regardless of the GB game, there was almost 1100 plays on film Belichek could have looked at. Even the last drive had 2 gash plays before being stopped.

IMO, what happened in the Super Bowl was the deterioration of the OL due to injury and that resulted in a containment of the ground game and a spotty pass pro. That's a hard way to live and even still they were a Matt Ryan very bad sack away from icing the game.

I don't know how much he kept back but he did show a lot. He had nothing new in the second half. BB and Patricia had it all covered. The gash plays were just great individual effort rather than scheme.

The OL issues did not help. Mack was getting pushed around by the end of the game. Some new misdirection stuff would have helped that.

Originally posted by Niners816:
I get what your saying, but how do we know he showed his whole hand. He only had 45 plays and generated near 350 yards and 3 TDs. Regardless of the GB game, there was almost 1100 plays on film Belichek could have looked at. Even the last drive had 2 gash plays before being stopped.

IMO, what happened in the Super Bowl was the deterioration of the OL due to injury and that resulted in a containment of the ground game and a spotty pass pro. That's a hard way to live and even still they were a Matt Ryan very bad sack away from icing the game.

Falcons offense was lights out for much of the game. I think what gets overlooked is the fact that even at halftime when the score was 21-3, the Patriots were completely dominating time of possession. They were sustaining drives but making critical mistakes and turnovers that kept points off the board. They settled down in the 2nd half and there was nothing the Falcons D could do about it.

Shanahan is taking most of the heat, but the Patriots won in large part by keeping their offense off the field for much of the game. Had the defense come up with some stops in the 2nd half, ATL would have ran away with it because they were driving easily.

Originally posted by dj43:

I don't know how much he kept back but he did show a lot. He had nothing new in the second half. BB and Patricia had it all covered. The gash plays were just great individual effort rather than scheme.

The OL issues did not help. Mack was getting pushed around by the end of the game. Some new misdirection stuff would have helped that.

I'm gonna disagree on the freeman explosive play. He didn't even have a defender near him until he was already 25 yards down the field. So something schematically worked enough to get him uncovered by that much. Even if it was a bust, you have to credit scheme for aiding in that.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by dj43:
I don't know how much he kept back but he did show a lot. He had nothing new in the second half. BB and Patricia had it all covered. The gash plays were just great individual effort rather than scheme.

The OL issues did not help. Mack was getting pushed around by the end of the game. Some new misdirection stuff would have helped that.

I'm gonna disagree on the freeman explosive play. He didn't even have a defender near him until he was already 25 yards down the field. So something schematically worked enough to get him uncovered by that much. Even if it was a bust, you have to credit scheme for aiding in that.

Yes, that play was an exception. That was one thing that had worked all season. Atlanta's OL just blocked it well and the call came at the right time.

IDK, maybe it was just Belichick being Belichick, but he seemed like he had a lot of things covered. Although, as Sofa noted, it was the Atlanta defense that cost them the game, not the failure of the offense.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Per matt Miller

Mike LaFleur, Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan scheming the offense in San Francisco. That's a reason for excitement, @49ers

can we at least wait and see before we get excited?

don't forget that we have no Matty Ice and Julio Jones up in here..

This is still reason enough to get excited.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Per matt Miller

Mike LaFleur, Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan scheming the offense in San Francisco. That's a reason for excitement, @49ers

can we at least wait and see before we get excited?

don't forget that we have no Matty Ice and Julio Jones up in here..

This is still reason enough to get excited.

Julio Jones is a beast but without shanny mattyi ice will suffer