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49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread
49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread
Feb 6, 2024 at 10:40 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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Feb 6, 2024 at 10:46 AM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Question is who would be Coach's Kolber
Feb 6, 2024 at 10:47 AM
- thl408
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Question is who would be Coach's Kolber
Brock
Feb 6, 2024 at 10:48 AM
- maximusdecimus
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oooof, i remember when that happened. It was so damn cringe.
Feb 6, 2024 at 11:22 AM
- Waterbear
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Let Kyle microdose!!!
Feb 6, 2024 at 11:25 AM
- billbird2111
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Let Drunk Kyle cook you nerds
Kyle needs to up his drinking game. It's clear he needs more time at the practice bar.
Feb 6, 2024 at 11:28 AM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Let Drunk Kyle cook you nerds
Kyle needs to up his drinking game. It's clear he needs more time at the practice bar.
Practice field is sloppy this week, so is coach. The field drove him to the drink
Feb 6, 2024 at 11:28 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Let Drunk Kyle cook you nerds
Feb 6, 2024 at 11:35 AM
- mitpdub
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It's all good for now. Someone needs to interview Kyle before the big game, and do a check on him Saturday night.
If he's still slurring and not talking normal with his regular "aouhmm" then we're in trouble. Brock may need to call his own plays.
OR
John Lynch may need to play the role of John Goodman for Kyle and even him out
If he's still slurring and not talking normal with his regular "aouhmm" then we're in trouble. Brock may need to call his own plays.
OR
John Lynch may need to play the role of John Goodman for Kyle and even him out
Feb 6, 2024 at 12:15 PM
- CardinalGold
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I'm more interested in the story of that first week of 2022 camp than whether Kyle was drunk last night.
It's like we are getting bits and pieces of the QB saga but not the full story all at once.
It's like we are getting bits and pieces of the QB saga but not the full story all at once.
Feb 6, 2024 at 1:14 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by thl408:
Article with some stats on why spread formations are becoming less frequent and tight formations (WRs in reduced splits) are rising. Kyle was one of the first to make this a defining aspect of his offense, and now it's catching on around the league.
TLDR: By using tight formations and condensing the middle of the field, the defense has to worry about the areas outside the numbers, which then allows the offense to attack the middle of the field. Tight formations also give more uncertainty when it comes to run or pass as opposed to spread formations where it's more likely a passing play.
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https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/kyle-shanahan-offense-49ers-brock-purdy-christian-mccaffrey-1776f02e?st=hqn7hg67tstr5wn&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
Shanahan's condensed formations, which are beginning to proliferate through the NFL, take the same principles as the spread—and completely invert them. The goal of any offense is to create and exploit space. Spread schemes do that by forcing defenders to line up from sideline to sideline. The 49ers achieve the same goal in an unexpected way: by forcing defensive backs to worry about the enormous empty patches of turf on the outside, it actually opens up the middle of the field to attack.
This season, Shanahan lined up his offense in tight formations more than ever before: San Francisco has run 63.9% of its total plays in this style. What that means is that when the offense lines up, the average width of the formation is just 19.9 yards, according to Next Gen Stats, or nearly 5 yards narrower than the NFL average of 24.6.
For six straight years, Next Gen Stats has found that the 49ers have targeted in-breaking routes more frequently than any other team in the NFL.
Those passes explain Purdy's incredible efficiency this season, when he led the league with 9.6 yards per pass attempt. In condensed formations, in-breaking routes average 9.2 yards per attempt with a 69.4% completion rate. Those numbers drop to 7.9 yards and 63.9% from spread formations.
Agree, great points! I'll just add that the condensed formations allow guys like Deebo and Jauan to block at the LOS easier for the RB, and also allow the outside zone to have more room to go sideways and break a DLines gap control.
Feb 6, 2024 at 1:15 PM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by thl408:
One downside of this is that (slot) CB blitzes have less distance to cover, and defenses can get very creative regarding where to bring rushers from since so many defenders are close to the box. It also muddies the presnap picture for the QB.
This is where the tunnel screen plays come in.
Feb 6, 2024 at 1:25 PM
- thl408
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
Article with some stats on why spread formations are becoming less frequent and tight formations (WRs in reduced splits) are rising. Kyle was one of the first to make this a defining aspect of his offense, and now it's catching on around the league.
TLDR: By using tight formations and condensing the middle of the field, the defense has to worry about the areas outside the numbers, which then allows the offense to attack the middle of the field. Tight formations also give more uncertainty when it comes to run or pass as opposed to spread formations where it's more likely a passing play.
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https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/kyle-shanahan-offense-49ers-brock-purdy-christian-mccaffrey-1776f02e?st=hqn7hg67tstr5wn&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink
Shanahan's condensed formations, which are beginning to proliferate through the NFL, take the same principles as the spread—and completely invert them. The goal of any offense is to create and exploit space. Spread schemes do that by forcing defenders to line up from sideline to sideline. The 49ers achieve the same goal in an unexpected way: by forcing defensive backs to worry about the enormous empty patches of turf on the outside, it actually opens up the middle of the field to attack.
This season, Shanahan lined up his offense in tight formations more than ever before: San Francisco has run 63.9% of its total plays in this style. What that means is that when the offense lines up, the average width of the formation is just 19.9 yards, according to Next Gen Stats, or nearly 5 yards narrower than the NFL average of 24.6.
For six straight years, Next Gen Stats has found that the 49ers have targeted in-breaking routes more frequently than any other team in the NFL.
Those passes explain Purdy's incredible efficiency this season, when he led the league with 9.6 yards per pass attempt. In condensed formations, in-breaking routes average 9.2 yards per attempt with a 69.4% completion rate. Those numbers drop to 7.9 yards and 63.9% from spread formations.
Agree, great points! I'll just add that the condensed formations allow guys like Deebo and Jauan to block at the LOS easier for the RB, and also allow the outside zone to have more room to go sideways and break a DLines gap control.
Yes. It allows the WRs to be a part of the run game. And if the WRs are good, willing blockers, which the 49er WRs are, then it's a plus for the offense. For a year or two, this was a defining characteristic of the 49er offense, these tight formations. Surely, as it yields success, it'll spread around the league.
Feb 6, 2024 at 1:45 PM
- VaBeachNiner
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Question is who would be Coach's Kolber
Brock
Joe Feliciano
Feb 6, 2024 at 2:11 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Question is who would be Coach's Kolber
Brock
Joe Feliciano
probably the Lombardi at this point