49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

love to read the rest…if anyone has ESPN+ and can DM it. I would appreciate it

Interesting article

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/2/7/24064256/super-bowl-preview-kyle-shanahan-offense-evolution-san-francisco-49ers

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Tipsy Shanny>1 beer Shanny

You see that sweat? I'm seeing hangs shanny

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Interesting article

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/2/7/24064256/super-bowl-preview-kyle-shanahan-offense-evolution-san-francisco-49ers

Awesome article. Thanks for posting. I like the deep dive into why he is using less playaction while still able to manipulate the underneath defenders to generate passing lanes for the middle of the field throws.

Most of all, the point is that his offense is rooted in causing uncertainty, misdirection, and deception - and that be done in many ways.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

My latest: On Kyle Shanahan's brilliance and scars, with insight into the parties he throws for players, miserable weeks for his assistants, and John Lynch's favorite meeting, with cameos from Steve Young and Joe Montana. https://t.co/e6HKGR7Bbp

— Seth Wickersham (@SethWickersham) February 7, 2024

love to read the rest…if anyone has ESPN+ and can DM it. I would appreciate it

So apparently the league is upset with SF received all these comp picks for being the pipeline for minorities getting promotions. Wut? How can you be mad at that? Kinda messed up

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Interesting article

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/2/7/24064256/super-bowl-preview-kyle-shanahan-offense-evolution-san-francisco-49ers

Awesome article. Thanks for posting. I like the deep dive into why he is using less playaction while still able to manipulate the underneath defenders to generate passing lanes for the middle of the field throws.

Most of all, the point is that his offense is rooted in causing uncertainty, misdirection, and deception - and that be done in many ways.

Solak is always a good read.

Originally posted by thl408:
Article with some stats on why spread formations are becoming less frequent and tight formations (WRs in reduced splits) are rising. Kyle was one of the first to make this a defining aspect of his offense, and now it's catching on around the league.

TLDR: By using tight formations and condensing the middle of the field, the defense has to worry about the areas outside the numbers, which then allows the offense to attack the middle of the field. Tight formations also give more uncertainty when it comes to run or pass as opposed to spread formations where it's more likely a passing play.
-------------------------------
https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/kyle-shanahan-offense-49ers-brock-purdy-christian-mccaffrey-1776f02e?st=hqn7hg67tstr5wn&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink

Shanahan's condensed formations, which are beginning to proliferate through the NFL, take the same principles as the spread—and completely invert them. The goal of any offense is to create and exploit space. Spread schemes do that by forcing defenders to line up from sideline to sideline. The 49ers achieve the same goal in an unexpected way: by forcing defensive backs to worry about the enormous empty patches of turf on the outside, it actually opens up the middle of the field to attack.

This season, Shanahan lined up his offense in tight formations more than ever before: San Francisco has run 63.9% of its total plays in this style. What that means is that when the offense lines up, the average width of the formation is just 19.9 yards, according to Next Gen Stats, or nearly 5 yards narrower than the NFL average of 24.6.

For six straight years, Next Gen Stats has found that the 49ers have targeted in-breaking routes more frequently than any other team in the NFL.

Those passes explain Purdy's incredible efficiency this season, when he led the league with 9.6 yards per pass attempt. In condensed formations, in-breaking routes average 9.2 yards per attempt with a 69.4% completion rate. Those numbers drop to 7.9 yards and 63.9% from spread formations.

interesting, thanks

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Interesting article

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/2/7/24064256/super-bowl-preview-kyle-shanahan-offense-evolution-san-francisco-49ers

Awesome article. Thanks for posting. I like the deep dive into why he is using less playaction while still able to manipulate the underneath defenders to generate passing lanes for the middle of the field throws.

Most of all, the point is that his offense is rooted in causing uncertainty, misdirection, and deception - and that be done in many ways.

Solak is always a good read.

It's a long-ish article, but if anyone wants to know why Kyle does the things he does, they should read it. I wish the article delved a bit more into the running game.
I don't watch JT OSullivan breakdowns but I've read folks here say that he doesn't like the bumper motion that CMC does, and that JTO doesn't know why it's done. Read the article to find out why and how it allows this year's 49er offense to not require using playaction as much.

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Tipsy Shanny>1 beer Shanny

You see that sweat? I'm seeing hangs shanny

I think the tipsy drunk thing is getting blown out of proportion. There's 24 hours in a day. Let's say Shanahan spent 19 hours of it game planning and coaching practice starting at 4am Monday. Then it's later in the day and he's gotta go do the dumb media day. The man can have a drink if he put in the time.

I think the players shouldn't drink alcohol this week, but I think a coach is fine since we do not depend on him physically. If he spends all day and night game planning and wants a little brown to take the edge off, then so be it.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Interesting article

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/2/7/24064256/super-bowl-preview-kyle-shanahan-offense-evolution-san-francisco-49ers

Awesome article. Thanks for posting. I like the deep dive into why he is using less playaction while still able to manipulate the underneath defenders to generate passing lanes for the middle of the field throws.

Most of all, the point is that his offense is rooted in causing uncertainty, misdirection, and deception - and that be done in many ways.

I think a big part of less play action is simply Kyle got comfortable with Brock's ability to read the coverages faster than Jimmy. This (to me) indicates why the offensive line has gotten bigger. Less play action. It takes an agile OLineman to do a fake run block and get back fast into a pass protection set. If you don't do a lot of run fakes, you don't need as much agility at the OLine positions.

Kyle will still run the wide zone runs, but now he can do the counter gaps and power because of the bigger OLinemen.

He should be on the sideline wearing a niners wizard hat.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Interesting article

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/2/7/24064256/super-bowl-preview-kyle-shanahan-offense-evolution-san-francisco-49ers

Awesome article. Thanks for posting. I like the deep dive into why he is using less playaction while still able to manipulate the underneath defenders to generate passing lanes for the middle of the field throws.

Most of all, the point is that his offense is rooted in causing uncertainty, misdirection, and deception - and that be done in many ways.

I think a big part of less play action is simply Kyle got comfortable with Brock's ability to read the coverages faster than Jimmy. This (to me) indicates why the offensive line has gotten bigger. Less play action. It takes an agile OLineman to do a fake run block and get back fast into a pass protection set. If you don't do a lot of run fakes, you don't need as much agility at the OLine positions.

Kyle will still run the wide zone runs, but now he can do the counter gaps and power because of the bigger OLinemen.

But not using playaction actually provides the QB with more time with his eyes on the coverage. Meaning, it's actually more difficult to know the coverage when the QB has to turn his back and execute the playaction, then turn back around and readjust his eyes to the coverage. One takeaway I got from that article is that CMC's ability to draw attention is why the 49ers are able to use less playaction. And not using playaction on a certain play means Brock is able to look at the coverage his entire dropback.

I agree with you on bigger OLmen allowing to run between the tackles better. When the team drafted Banks with a 2nd rounder, I knew something was up. Then they went further and drafted Sermon and Price, two guys known for running between the tackles in college.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

My latest: On Kyle Shanahan's brilliance and scars, with insight into the parties he throws for players, miserable weeks for his assistants, and John Lynch's favorite meeting, with cameos from Steve Young and Joe Montana. https://t.co/e6HKGR7Bbp

— Seth Wickersham (@SethWickersham) February 7, 2024

love to read the rest…if anyone has ESPN+ and can DM it. I would appreciate it

So apparently the league is upset with SF received all these comp picks for being the pipeline for minorities getting promotions. Wut? How can you be mad at that? Kinda messed up

Oh yeah, because our FO just killed it on those 3rd rounders. LOL

If they want them, they can have them back for 2 5th rounders each.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Interesting article

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2024/2/7/24064256/super-bowl-preview-kyle-shanahan-offense-evolution-san-francisco-49ers

Awesome article. Thanks for posting. I like the deep dive into why he is using less playaction while still able to manipulate the underneath defenders to generate passing lanes for the middle of the field throws.

Most of all, the point is that his offense is rooted in causing uncertainty, misdirection, and deception - and that be done in many ways.

Solak is always a good read.

It's a long-ish article, but if anyone wants to know why Kyle does the things he does, they should read it. I wish the article delved a bit more into the running game.
I don't watch JT OSullivan breakdowns but I've read folks here say that he doesn't like the bumper motion that CMC does, and that JTO doesn't know why it's done. Read the article to find out why and how it allows this year's 49er offense to not require using playaction as much.

It's really good. Possible we suddenly run more play action on Sunday?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

My latest: On Kyle Shanahan's brilliance and scars, with insight into the parties he throws for players, miserable weeks for his assistants, and John Lynch's favorite meeting, with cameos from Steve Young and Joe Montana. https://t.co/e6HKGR7Bbp

— Seth Wickersham (@SethWickersham) February 7, 2024

love to read the rest…if anyone has ESPN+ and can DM it. I would appreciate it

So apparently the league is upset with SF received all these comp picks for being the pipeline for minorities getting promotions. Wut? How can you be mad at that? Kinda messed up

Argh paywall was enjoying that