49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
In his defense, by the time we were able to make his hiring official, all of the best assistants were already taken. Hopefully we can see upgrades across the board this offseason. New O line coach would be a great start.

I highly doubt the oline coach is the problem with our line. Look at Cable in Seattle. He is considered one of the best OL coaches in the league, yet Seattle oline is horrendous. Why? Bad coaching? No, bad players. Just like us. Tomlinson, Fusco, Kilgore all stink.

You've been watching different games than me, I guess. When I talk about coaching, penalties are my first issue. Penalties are a direct result of coaching. How is this team doing in penalties this year? How many games could have gone the other way with fewer penalties?

I don't think penalties on the oline are based on coaching as much as other factors.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
In his defense, by the time we were able to make his hiring official, all of the best assistants were already taken. Hopefully we can see upgrades across the board this offseason. New O line coach would be a great start.

I highly doubt the oline coach is the problem with our line. Look at Cable in Seattle. He is considered one of the best OL coaches in the league, yet Seattle oline is horrendous. Why? Bad coaching? No, bad players. Just like us. Tomlinson, Fusco, Kilgore all stink.

You've been watching different games than me, I guess. When I talk about coaching, penalties are my first issue. Penalties are a direct result of coaching. How is this team doing in penalties this year? How many games could have gone the other way with fewer penalties?

I don't think penalties on the oline are based on coaching as much as other factors.

We have the 2nd most false start penalties in the league. Procedural penalties are a direct result of coaching.

Originally posted by StubbyNBY:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I highly doubt the oline coach is the problem with our line. Look at Cable in Seattle. He is considered one of the best OL coaches in the league, yet Seattle oline is horrendous. Why? Bad coaching? No, bad players. Just like us. Tomlinson, Fusco, Kilgore all stink.

I agree, Jon Benton is a respected O-Line coach and I think we just don't have the talent at guard and center to have a chance to succeed. I would love to see Shanahan add an OC/Run game coordinator though. Aaron Kromer who I wanted badly as O-Line coach, maybe he could be brought in as a offensive coordinator?

I do hope that Kyle does add an OC to help him with game planning.

Kromer is under contract to the Rams, an OC job would be considered a lateral move.

We have a run game specialist in Mike McDaniel so we won't be adding a run game coordinator. We also have Lafleur as not only the WR coach but also pass game specialist. In Washington as OC this is how Kyle handled gameplanning :

Shanahan admits that dividing up the responsibilities isn;t something that he did as a young coach, but has come to realize that there just aren't enough hours in a day to accomplish everything by himself, which is why it is important to surround yourself with quality, hard working assistant coaches that you trust.

"When I was younger I tried to do everything. You're so excited to have the opportunity to be a coordinator that you want to work at every single area as hard as you can. But you start to go crazy because there aren't enough hours in the week. So I've gotten better at divvying up stuff and allowing others to help me. Just getting to know them, you start to trust them more and they start to know what I like. It becomes more efficient when you work with the same people." he explained in the Examiner.

So now every Monday, each offensive coach has an area to break down. Receivers coach Ike Hilliard handles first and second down tendencies, three receiver formations and the two minute game plan, quarterbacks coach Matt LaFluer does third down and empty sets, tight ends coach Sean McVay plans the red zone and 22 personnel sets (two tight ends, two running backs) as welll as first and second down. Running backs coach Bobby Turner takes care of goal line and short yardage situations, assistant offensive line coach Chris Morgan is in charge of pass protections and making sure they are sound against all of the opponents blitzes.

Mike McDaniel and Richmond Flowers, the quality control coaches, break down the overall defensive alignments and tendencies and enter it in the computer so that coaches get down and distance and situational stats and percentages. Offensive line coach Chris Foerster and Shanahan break down film on their own and help with the overall game plan.

I am guessing we have something similar here in place.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
We have the 2nd most false start penalties in the league. Procedural penalties are a direct result of coaching.

We had none last week, two in week six and two in week five. Three of those four were all on Brown, who has four (36%) of our eleven false starts this year.

Originally posted by StubbyNBY:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

I highly doubt the oline coach is the problem with our line. Look at Cable in Seattle. He is considered one of the best OL coaches in the league, yet Seattle oline is horrendous. Why? Bad coaching? No, bad players. Just like us. Tomlinson, Fusco, Kilgore all stink.

I agree, Jon Benton is a respected O-Line coach and I think we just don't have the talent at guard and center to have a chance to succeed. I would love to see Shanahan add an OC/Run game coordinator though. Aaron Kromer who I wanted badly as O-Line coach, maybe he could be brought in as a offensive coordinator?

I do hope that Kyle does add an OC to help him with game planning.

Shanahan's strengths are game planning and play calling. I would rather hire a new HC (or an assistant HC to handle those duties) and keep Shanahan as the OC.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
We have the 2nd most false start penalties in the league. Procedural penalties are a direct result of coaching.

We had none last week, two in week six and two in week five. Three of those four were all on Brown, who has four (36%) of our eleven false starts this year.

I see. So do you think Brown should be replaced, or coached better?

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
We have the 2nd most false start penalties in the league. Procedural penalties are a direct result of coaching.

1. SF
3. KC
5. SEA

These are the league leaders in total penalties so far.

I guess Andy Reid & Pete Carroll don't know how to coach.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

I wanted head coach is Shanahan stay here for 3 years. We should be patience in few years. If we will get improve our team in processing time.

few if any have called for his firing. if jed fires him after this year. i really believe jed has no choice but to either sell the team or file papers to dissolve.. no decent coach would ever want to come here given our track record.. of firing coaches after one year. IF jed fires him , which will not happen. but major changes must be made with either players or asst coaches. you have to give fans something to draw them back next year

We have enough for head coach by fired up in 3 years. Let coach Shanahan will do homework with playbook in process next season. He will process with team for warm up. If we want fires for head coach Shanahan because we are idiot. We mess up our Head coach and not process time our team. We need be patience with coach Shanahan. We should give him in 2 years or 3 years. I think. Shanahan is a probably good coach someday. We have suck our quartback and suck our problem defense by Reid and Wards.

We will draft the top quartback then draft the Offensive any player because we need get a score next summer.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
1. SF
3. KC
5. SEA

These are the league leaders in total penalties so far.

I guess Andy Reid & Pete Carroll don't know how to coach.

well...

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
We have the 2nd most false start penalties in the league. Procedural penalties are a direct result of coaching.

We had none last week, two in week six and two in week five. Three of those four were all on Brown, who has four (36%) of our eleven false starts this year.

I see. So do you think Brown should be replaced, or coached better?

Brown led the team in false starts in 2016 (6 of the team's 15). Not sure if it is coaching or just something he needs to improve on. How exactly do you coach someone not to make a false start? (Honest question)

Originally posted by luv49rs:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
1. SF
3. KC
5. SEA

These are the league leaders in total penalties so far.

I guess Andy Reid & Pete Carroll don't know how to coach.

well...

In 2014 SEA & NE were #1 & #2

I think it has more to do with KS having a really young team with players that aren't very good.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
We have the 2nd most false start penalties in the league. Procedural penalties are a direct result of coaching.

1. SF
3. KC
5. SEA

These are the league leaders in total penalties so far.

I guess Andy Reid & Pete Carroll don't know how to coach.

More like you don't know how to read the whole thread. If you can find somewhere that I said these were Shanny's fault, you could make that claim.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
We had none last week, two in week six and two in week five. Three of those four were all on Brown, who has four (36%) of our eleven false starts this year.

so upsetting and puzzling to see our vets are just as bad in mistakes as the kids. and some of this stuff on brown and staley should not happen to vets

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

We have the 2nd most false start penalties in the league. Procedural penalties are a direct result of coaching.

1. SF
3. KC
5. SEA

These are the league leaders in total penalties so far.

I guess Andy Reid & Pete Carroll don't know how to coach.

More like you don't know how to read the whole thread. If you can find somewhere that I said these were Shanny's fault, you could make that claim.

So Carroll and Reid have bad staffs? Belickick has a bad staff?

The facts don't back up your statement.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

So Carroll and Reid have bad staffs? Belickick has a bad staff?

The facts don't back up your statement.

There's more to penalites than coaching. If you look at NE as an example....in 2013, they only had 65 or so penalites which is a very low number. The very next year it ballooned to 120+. This increase meant nothing because they actually won the title the year with 120+.

Hell, even with us this year our worst game coincided with our "best" performance in regards to penalites. We only had 2 vs Dallas.