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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I was answering the other posters question "I'd like to know how a coach makes a guy not false start?" Practice timing.

As to your question, I am sure they are practicing it, but that doesn't mean it is effective. That is on shanny. When you have an entire team last in penalties that is on the coach.

Its like saying a teacher isn't responsible for 25/30 students failing the class. But if its like 4-5 students and the rest are passing it doesn't reflect poorly on the teacher.




What if 25 of those students are simply destined to be pumping gas and bagging groceries in the future?


Of the most egregious offenders when it comes to penalties it is largely guys who have no future with this team in any capacity.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I was answering the other posters question "I'd like to know how a coach makes a guy not false start?" Practice timing.

As to your question, I am sure they are practicing it, but that doesn't mean it is effective. That is on shanny. When you have an entire team last in penalties that is on the coach.

Its like saying a teacher isn't responsible for 25/30 students failing the class. But if its like 4-5 students and the rest are passing it doesn't reflect poorly on the teacher.


What if 25 of those students are simply destined to be pumping gas and bagging groceries in the future?

Of the most egregious offenders when it comes to penalties it is largely guys who have no future with this team in any capacity.

Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.



Its Year 1 of a rebuild. You're going to have a bunch of filler that will be replaced sooner rather than later.


If the roster gets better and Shanahan starts winning, nobody will really give a crap about the penalty situation one way or another.


The Harbaugh teams led the NFL in delay of game penalties. Plenty of people were happy to overlook that while the team was winning.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.



Its Year 1 of a rebuild. You're going to have a bunch of filler that will be replaced sooner rather than later.


If the roster gets better and Shanahan starts winning, nobody will really give a crap about the penalty situation one way or another.


The Harbaugh teams led the NFL in delay of game penalties. Plenty of people were happy to overlook that while the team was winning.

Winning cures all...Except complaints about OCs who don't score enough points despite winning tons of games, wearing down defenses and controlling the clock.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Winning cures all...Except complaints about OCs who don't score enough points despite winning tons of games, wearing down defenses and controlling the clock.

Who is that guy calling plays for nowadays anyways?


Roman was fantastic at scheming the run game, it is in the passing game where he went potato far too often. That pitch to Ted Ginn deep in 49ers territory vs the Rams still strikes me as one of the worst playcalls I've seen from an OC at any level.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I was answering the other posters question "I'd like to know how a coach makes a guy not false start?" Practice timing.

As to your question, I am sure they are practicing it, but that doesn't mean it is effective. That is on shanny. When you have an entire team last in penalties that is on the coach.

Its like saying a teacher isn't responsible for 25/30 students failing the class. But if its like 4-5 students and the rest are passing it doesn't reflect poorly on the teacher.


What if 25 of those students are simply destined to be pumping gas and bagging groceries in the future?

Of the most egregious offenders when it comes to penalties it is largely guys who have no future with this team in any capacity.

Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.

Sweet, so if I run a stop sign and smash in to your car I can say my drivers ed teacher was at fault. Sounds great. Because even though they taught me that a stop sign meant stop and we practiced stopping at stop signs they still bear the responsibility. So, if you wamt restitution when this happens you can see Mr Nelson
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I was answering the other posters question "I'd like to know how a coach makes a guy not false start?" Practice timing.

As to your question, I am sure they are practicing it, but that doesn't mean it is effective. That is on shanny. When you have an entire team last in penalties that is on the coach.

Its like saying a teacher isn't responsible for 25/30 students failing the class. But if its like 4-5 students and the rest are passing it doesn't reflect poorly on the teacher.


What if 25 of those students are simply destined to be pumping gas and bagging groceries in the future?

Of the most egregious offenders when it comes to penalties it is largely guys who have no future with this team in any capacity.

Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.

Sweet, so if I run a stop sign and smash in to your car I can say my drivers ed teacher was at fault. Sounds great. Because even though they taught me that a stop sign meant stop and we practiced stopping at stop signs they still bear the responsibility. So, if you wamt restitution when this happens you can see Mr Nelson

Sure. Negligent operation of a driving school. I'd make that argument in a heartbeat and settle before trial.

Especially if i find out that school leads the league in accidents. Easy money.

I'm joking around but I see your point. I just think Shanny at least has some responsibility in the penalty problem. Even if slightly. I'm surprised to find people think HC has nothing to do with the amount of penalties on a team.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Oct 27, 2017 at 3:37 PM ]
So many other factors in game also

not hearing the snap count in the huddle
Crowd noise
Not thinking correctly from in game play
Not thinking correctly from having your bell rung
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I was answering the other posters question "I'd like to know how a coach makes a guy not false start?" Practice timing.

As to your question, I am sure they are practicing it, but that doesn't mean it is effective. That is on shanny. When you have an entire team last in penalties that is on the coach.

Its like saying a teacher isn't responsible for 25/30 students failing the class. But if its like 4-5 students and the rest are passing it doesn't reflect poorly on the teacher.


What if 25 of those students are simply destined to be pumping gas and bagging groceries in the future?

Of the most egregious offenders when it comes to penalties it is largely guys who have no future with this team in any capacity.

Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.

Sweet, so if I run a stop sign and smash in to your car I can say my drivers ed teacher was at fault. Sounds great. Because even though they taught me that a stop sign meant stop and we practiced stopping at stop signs they still bear the responsibility. So, if you wamt restitution when this happens you can see Mr Nelson
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Winning cures all...Except complaints about OCs who don't score enough points despite winning tons of games, wearing down defenses and controlling the clock.

Who is that guy calling plays for nowadays anyways?


Roman was fantastic at scheming the run game, it is in the passing game where he went potato far too often. That pitch to Ted Ginn deep in 49ers territory vs the Rams still strikes me as one of the worst playcalls I've seen from an OC at any level.

So was it Roman's or Harbs fault that Crabs forgot you can't cover up the TE on LOS on your first snap of the Super Bowl? Hell, this was one of the type of penalites I was willing to hear about possible fault being held on the coach. But C'mon every receiver knows the rules about what makes a formation legal.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.


Its Year 1 of a rebuild. You're going to have a bunch of filler that will be replaced sooner rather than later.


If the roster gets better and Shanahan starts winning, nobody will really give a crap about the penalty situation one way or another.


The Harbaugh teams led the NFL in delay of game penalties. Plenty of people were happy to overlook that while the team was winning.

Cost us a SB
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I was answering the other posters question "I'd like to know how a coach makes a guy not false start?" Practice timing.

As to your question, I am sure they are practicing it, but that doesn't mean it is effective. That is on shanny. When you have an entire team last in penalties that is on the coach.

Its like saying a teacher isn't responsible for 25/30 students failing the class. But if its like 4-5 students and the rest are passing it doesn't reflect poorly on the teacher.


What if 25 of those students are simply destined to be pumping gas and bagging groceries in the future?

Of the most egregious offenders when it comes to penalties it is largely guys who have no future with this team in any capacity.

Shanny is in charge of the final roster so he bears responsibility there too. Can't totally absovle a head coach when the team leads the league in flags. Its not all on him but its not all the players either. He shares some responsibility.

Sweet, so if I run a stop sign and smash in to your car I can say my drivers ed teacher was at fault. Sounds great. Because even though they taught me that a stop sign meant stop and we practiced stopping at stop signs they still bear the responsibility. So, if you wamt restitution when this happens you can see Mr Nelson

You running the stop sign is a direct result of your drivers ed teacher.

Sorry, just using the logic of that other poster.

Dudes nobody gives a f**k about the Harbs/Roman days. PM each other your fricken gossipers ...
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Dudes nobody gives a f**k about the Harbs/Roman days. PM each other your fricken gossipers ...

i remember everyone hated roman. Now he would be the best coach outside of Shanny.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Dudes nobody gives a f**k about the Harbs/Roman days. PM each other your fricken gossipers ...

i remember everyone hated roman. Now he would be the best coach outside of Shanny.

Greg was literally responsible for the fall of the Roman Empire
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 27, 2017 at 5:31 PM ]
Originally posted by jonnydel:
gameplanning, gameplanning and more gameplanning - there's so much involved in game-planning it's ridiculous.... Also, teaching technique, thorough understanding of the playbook and when to execute different techniques in those playcalls and against different looks from the opponent. Position coaches diagnosing plays and when one of their positions fails during a game and why they failed so that an adjustment can be made. Running drills to teach technique.

There's so much more that goes into coaching than talking to players about penalties. You can't do much to practice guys not forgetting the snap count.

You don't think practice helps guys with snap counts? Interesting.
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