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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Shanny is making sure no one stands in the way of KC's three-peat.

The Chiefs are just too good right now. They'll dominate for years to come the same way Brady and the Pats did.

They will be good unless something happens to their key player, but I don't think they are just too good. there are 3 or 4 strong teams which will put them to the best and beat them.

As for the posters who think it is clever to put forward that Shanahan is all about helping KC, several of them are supporters of other teams trolling here. Others are just whiners.
I think you missed the point dude. Kyle does not have to try helping kc. He just needs to be himself. The assist comes naturally.
[ Edited by Bringbackedjr on Mar 6, 2024 at 12:51 AM ]
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Shanny is making sure no one stands in the way of KC's three-peat.

The Chiefs are just too good right now. They'll dominate for years to come the same way Brady and the Pats did.

No they won't. They were 9-6 at one point. Lucked out by facing a very injured Miami and Buffalo team in the playoffs, followed by a Baltimore team that shot itself in the foot over and over. And of course they faced the biggest choker in the league KS10 who doesn't know how to call an offense in the SB to save his life.

With many of the injured QBs eg Rodgers, Burrow, etc coming back next year, I doubt KC makes it back to the SB.

this is just our way of coping with losing to an inferior team. We just glamorize their dominance so it makes the loss feel acceptable…
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Shanny is making sure no one stands in the way of KC's three-peat.

The Chiefs are just too good right now. They'll dominate for years to come the same way Brady and the Pats did.

They will be good unless something happens to their key player, but I don't think they are just too good. there are 3 or 4 strong teams which will put them to the best and beat them.

As for the posters who think it is clever to put forward that Shanahan is all about helping KC, several of them are supporters of other teams trolling here. Others are just whiners.
I think you missed the point dude. Kyle does not have to try helping kc. He just needs to be himself. The assist comes naturally.

No, I saw the point. I just thought it was completely wrong. As I said, sometimes deliberately wrong, sometimes just the whiners.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/is-49ers-hc-kyle-shanahan-too-comfortable

Great article by Grant. Shame that Kyle's fan club roast him for this, since he's the greatest coach of all time since Bill Walsh
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Shanny is making sure no one stands in the way of KC's three-peat.

The Chiefs are just too good right now. They'll dominate for years to come the same way Brady and the Pats did.

No they won't. They were 9-6 at one point. Lucked out by facing a very injured Miami and Buffalo team in the playoffs, followed by a Baltimore team that shot itself in the foot over and over. And of course they faced the biggest choker in the league KS10 who doesn't know how to call an offense in the SB to save his life.

With many of the injured QBs eg Rodgers, Burrow, etc coming back next year, I doubt KC makes it back to the SB.

this is just our way of coping with losing to an inferior team. We just glamorize their dominance so it makes the loss feel acceptable…

They've won 3 of the last 5 super bowls. I wouldn't put that down to luck. They are clearly the best team In the league right now.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Shanny is making sure no one stands in the way of KC's three-peat.

The Chiefs are just too good right now. They'll dominate for years to come the same way Brady and the Pats did.

No they won't. They were 9-6 at one point. Lucked out by facing a very injured Miami and Buffalo team in the playoffs, followed by a Baltimore team that shot itself in the foot over and over. And of course they faced the biggest choker in the league KS10 who doesn't know how to call an offense in the SB to save his life.

With many of the injured QBs eg Rodgers, Burrow, etc coming back next year, I doubt KC makes it back to the SB.

this is just our way of coping with losing to an inferior team. We just glamorize their dominance so it makes the loss feel acceptable…

They've won 3 of the last 5 super bowls. I wouldn't put that down to luck. They are clearly the best team In the league right now.
With a huge assist from the 49ers due to their inability to close the deal.
Originally posted by DrEll:
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/is-49ers-hc-kyle-shanahan-too-comfortable

Great article by Grant. Shame that Kyle's fan club roast him for this, since he's the greatest coach of all time since Bill Walsh

I'm not a Grant Cohn hater like many on here. I find him fun, opinionated, and obviously a bit deliberately spiky in a manner I find entertaining. In other words, if you don't take him too seriously, he can add value to your fandom. I don't agree with everything he says, but I do sometimes get a little thought-provoking jolt from him, and that's a decent return. For serious analysis I look elsewhere.

But that article is vacuous.

Shanahan has demonstrably taken a team that was routinely posting heavy losing seasons, turned them around, and moulded them into perennial championship contenders. Of course his tenure is secure. Anything else would be ludicrous.

Comparing Kyle to Andy Reid is a false measurement, similar to how people want Purdy to be Pat Mahomes or else he is worthless. Andy Reid was 20 years into his head coaching career before he won the big one. At year 7 (the same as Kyle has just completed) his record was eerily similar - a bunch of lost NFC Championship games, and a Superbowl loss.
Originally posted by DrEll:
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/is-49ers-hc-kyle-shanahan-too-comfortable

Great article by Grant. Shame that Kyle's fan club roast him for this, since he's the greatest coach of all time since Bill Walsh

grant speaks the truth
Originally posted by DrEll:
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/is-49ers-hc-kyle-shanahan-too-comfortable

Great article by Grant. Shame that Kyle's fan club roast him for this, since he's the greatest coach of all time since Bill Walsh

Maybe just maybe Grant might have a point.

But if Shanahan's issue is being too comfortable, how do you propose fixing it?

What does that really mean anyway?

The guy really wants to win the damn thing........can't imagine he's being lazy or not trying everything.

I honestly think the best course of action would be York having a very frank convo with Shanahan and Lynch about what the team needs to do to get over the hump, no one to be blamed......HOWEVER.....

Everything must be asked........is it the QB? The OL? Skill position groups? Defense? Playcalling in certain situations? Lack of a dedicated OC/playcaller?

IMO, everything should be brought up....kicking game, injuries, bad luck, etc.

And again, not with a tone of blame. We're all in this together.......nothing Kyle could say should ever get him fired (results in the future maybe, but not words).

This becomes a form of accountability where you're clearly defining what it is the team is missing to win it all.

I think the challenge here is that this is a much tougher cookie to crack than say this time in 1994 after the second Cowboys loss. Debartolo was pissed going down that elevator at Texas Stadium and wanted to do whatever it took to win it all the next year. It turned out it was mostly fixing the defense (mostly done via FA, Bryant Young in the draft).

The biggest question I have is how were the Chiefs able to slow down the 49ers dominant offense enough that we couldn't pull away from them?? Is this an issue of "we have a juggernaut offense in September, a great offense in December, a good offense in January, a decent offense in February"? I get that defenses in the postseason tighten up, but damn.....is KC's defense truly that f**king good?

This is where I think the OL issues are probably the answer.

To Kyle's critics - you shouldn't want radical change from him. Besides possibly losing confidence, you are very likely risking issues in other areas. IMO, it's still a game won/lost in the trenches and we've only focused on one side with the belief brains can overcome it.

It probably can't.

We'll probably find out Ben Johnson ain't all that without the Berlin Wall blocking for Goff and his guys.

Purdy is still very likely the guy, but in big high stakes games, gotta make things a little easier for him.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
They've won 3 of the last 5 super bowls. I wouldn't put that down to luck. They are clearly the best team In the league right now.

Not sure if they're the best team, but they know how to play like the best team when it really matters.

I had this "feeling" they would beat Miami, then Buffalo, then Baltimore. That feeling certainly wasn't based off of their rather mediocre regular season...

The 2021 49ers had a rather meh regular season for Kyle/healthy QB standards, but were tough AF in the postseason.
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
They've won 3 of the last 5 super bowls. I wouldn't put that down to luck. They are clearly the best team In the league right now.

Not sure if they're the best team, but they know how to play like the best team when it really matters.

I had this "feeling" they would beat Miami, then Buffalo, then Baltimore. That feeling certainly wasn't based off of their rather mediocre regular season...

The 2021 49ers had a rather meh regular season for Kyle/healthy QB standards, but were tough AF in the postseason.

Yup and that 2021 team in the season beat both SB teams in their house, course in the NFCCG we are punting in plus territory with the lead, which evaporated. We get the lead in those key playoff games and the decision making goes sideways.
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Maybe just maybe Grant might have a point.

But if Shanahan's issue is being too comfortable, how do you propose fixing it?

What does that really mean anyway?

The guy really wants to win the damn thing........can't imagine he's being lazy or not trying everything.

I honestly think the best course of action would be York having a very frank convo with Shanahan and Lynch about what the team needs to do to get over the hump, no one to be blamed......HOWEVER.....

Everything must be asked........is it the QB? The OL? Skill position groups? Defense? Playcalling in certain situations? Lack of a dedicated OC/playcaller?

IMO, everything should be brought up....kicking game, injuries, bad luck, etc.

And again, not with a tone of blame. We're all in this together.......nothing Kyle could say should ever get him fired (results in the future maybe, but not words).

This becomes a form of accountability where you're clearly defining what it is the team is missing to win it all.

I think the challenge here is that this is a much tougher cookie to crack than say this time in 1994 after the second Cowboys loss. Debartolo was pissed going down that elevator at Texas Stadium and wanted to do whatever it took to win it all the next year. It turned out it was mostly fixing the defense (mostly done via FA, Bryant Young in the draft).

The biggest question I have is how were the Chiefs able to slow down the 49ers dominant offense enough that we couldn't pull away from them?? Is this an issue of "we have a juggernaut offense in September, a great offense in December, a good offense in January, a decent offense in February"? I get that defenses in the postseason tighten up, but damn.....is KC's defense truly that f**king good?

This is where I think the OL issues are probably the answer.

To Kyle's critics - you shouldn't want radical change from him. Besides possibly losing confidence, you are very likely risking issues in other areas. IMO, it's still a game won/lost in the trenches and we've only focused on one side with the belief brains can overcome it.

It probably can't.

We'll probably find out Ben Johnson ain't all that without the Berlin Wall blocking for Goff and his guys.

Purdy is still very likely the guy, but in big high stakes games, gotta make things a little easier for him.

Eddie would have threatened or come this close, to firing his butt. He did that with Walsh in 87, and he Walsh actually won SBs. Putting your HC on notice it spurred the 88 and 89 teams to greatness. You don't have to fire him, but you do need to tell him that losing these 10 pt leads in SBs with guys not prepared or knowing OT rules is unacceptable and garbage.
Any big FA this year we think the team could target that we don't expect ala Hargrave last year?
Originally posted by DrEll:
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/is-49ers-hc-kyle-shanahan-too-comfortable

Great article by Grant. Shame that Kyle's fan club roast him for this, since he's the greatest coach of all time since Bill Walsh

Every "article" he writes is more just random thoughts that come into his head and he s**ts them out on paper. He's really started churning out more since SI went under
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Shanny is making sure no one stands in the way of KC's three-peat.

The Chiefs are just too good right now. They'll dominate for years to come the same way Brady and the Pats did.

No they won't. They were 9-6 at one point. Lucked out by facing a very injured Miami and Buffalo team in the playoffs, followed by a Baltimore team that shot itself in the foot over and over. And of course they faced the biggest choker in the league KS10 who doesn't know how to call an offense in the SB to save his life.

With many of the injured QBs eg Rodgers, Burrow, etc coming back next year, I doubt KC makes it back to the SB.

this is just our way of coping with losing to an inferior team. We just glamorize their dominance so it makes the loss feel acceptable…

They've won 3 of the last 5 super bowls. I wouldn't put that down to luck. They are clearly the best team In the league right now.

Our fans are starting to rival the Seahawks fans base. Never thought I see another fan base close to being as dumb as theirs, but here we are.
[ Edited by GoreGoreGore on Mar 6, 2024 at 8:40 AM ]
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