Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Not a lot of coaches go to multiple Super Bowls period. I can't think of any who have done it in the last 30 years without an elite QB (maybe Pete I guess*)
It's weird to see him described as overly conservative while being simultaneously criticized for not running the ball enough, especially on early downs in a series. Coaches who pound the ball, especially into heavy fronts, are generally viewed as conservative.
Was it conservative when he went on 4th and 3 down 3 against the Chiefs deep in their territory? The math would have indicated the correct choice was to attempt the game tying field goal.
I think he's conservative when it comes to clock management, and prior to Purdy taking over was also conservative on 4th and shorts in opposing territory. Not so much since.
Just to follow up here. Coaches who have made multiple SB appearances with a single team since 1989:
Seifert
Levy
Johnson
Cowher
Holmgren
Mike Shanahan
Belichick
Tomlin
Carroll
McVay
Reid
Kyle Shanahan
You can add in Parcells if you want to allow for coaches who have been more than 1 time with more than 1 team. Can also add in Gibbs and Reeves who had 1 appearance each in the 90s, but also had at least one appearance in the 80s.
Coaches who have been to 4+ conference title games with a single team since 89:
Seifert
Levy
Cowher
Belichick
Reid (twice with two different teams)
John Harbaugh
Kyle Shanahan
You can add in Holmgren if you want to allow for coaches who have been to 4+ with more than one team.
Pretty good company. I may have missed somebody… did it from memory.
The whole thing about Kyle choking in big games is the silly fact that the guy has never coached a team who didn't win at LEAST 2 playoff games every year they made the post season.
We can pick apart the issues from the games they finally did lose and yes, it sucks and realistically we should've won 3 out of the 4...not much any HC could've done in that Eagles game.
But I had a conversation with someone the other day who was pumping up the Packers Championships from pre SB era. Vince Lombardi is a legend and there's a reason the trophy is named after him but 4 out of his first 5 "Championship" seasons he had to win 2 or less playoff games to get the Championship. Only his last one in SB II did he have to win 3.
Every playoff game is a big game. You lose any of them and you're not winning the whole thing. There are coaches like McCarthy who have had so many games where their teams completely underperformed and he made back breaking calls that lost them the game but he won a SB on the back of Aaron Rodgers so he's considered by some as a better HC than Kyle and Kyle is a choker who can't win the "big one"
It's just a stupid narrative. It's 1 game in the NFL. Any given Sunday applies. Until I see Shanahan losing games against teams with inferior QBs in the postseason or actually doing stupid playcalling decisions which kill our ability to win the game I still think this team is in great hands. It doesn't mean Kyle is perfect...for instance he HAS to realize the OL needs to be a priority to protect Brock but as I said in another post, every time we've lost a game he's looked to correct the key reason behind it.
