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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
good piece, I like this one:

"In recent conversations with confidants at the 49ers' training facility, he wasn't afraid to admit the truth: The 49ers were fortunate to have made it to Vegas in the first place. They probably should have lost their playoff opener to an underwhelming Green Bay team and needed a huge second-half comeback - fueled by a 51-yard pass that bounced off a defender's facemask - to overcome Detroit in the NFC Championship Game."

shame and if we look at causes, I look at a wasted year at DC. Either let Wilks be Wilks, or hire Sorensen over him. Kyle's yelling at Wilks in the SB, you brought him there, could have moved on in October, course, he didn't. Then we see items like drafting Lance and losing absurd draft capital which could have pushed us over the line in years like 2021 or 2023. Not having the team prepped on basic rules. A ton of red flags. Probably the biggest is an O that struggled to move the ball all postseason, loaded with playmakers.

We all know you'll find a narrative to push if it's there despite the facts.

Deebo out early vs the Packers in the rain - 24 points scored
Lions 34 points scored.
22 points scored vs a defense averaging giving up 17.

One thing you guys seem to miss while pulling out all the stops to blame everything on Shanahan is player execution hurt us on offense, and the weakest unit on the roster happened to be the OL which goes a long way to ensuring the success of both the passing and running games.

Defense was healthy for the most part and simply kept under performing schematically and the talented players we had sprinkled all over the place looked to be struggling more times than not. Outside the corners who are a specialty of Wilks, can you say any of our other stud defensive players played their best ball last year?

You can blame Shanahan on the Wilks hire but they took a shot and it failed. That's Kyle owning a mistake, you guys want to somehow absolve Wilks from the blame but still put it on Kyle for making the move. Weird.

You can blame Kyle for not addressing the OL enough but also hard to do when the guy we had starting in the SB gets hurt and his replacement makes key mistakes he wasn't coached to do. Only so many resources to go around...hopefully this draft we'll address the position properly.

But once again - the Chiefs defense was very good. How do we blame all that on Kyle when the Chiefs have made many offense look mediocre this season coupled with the fact that you have normally reliable players making critical errors in the game? Or forgetting the fact that Spagnulo has a history of shutting down offenses with elite playmakers, elite coaches and QBs.


Excuses excuses..win a damn trophy lol
Originally posted by Montana:


Excuses excuses..win a damn trophy lol

Ok i'll get right on it sir
Originally posted by Montana:


Excuses excuses..win a damn trophy lol

Technically he's won two, since they do display the NFC trophies.

/awaits triggered reply in 3...2...
Originally posted by genus49:
We all know you'll find a narrative to push if it's there despite the facts.

Deebo out early vs the Packers in the rain - 24 points scored
Lions 34 points scored.
22 points scored vs a defense averaging giving up 17.

One thing you guys seem to miss while pulling out all the stops to blame everything on Shanahan is player execution hurt us on offense, and the weakest unit on the roster happened to be the OL which goes a long way to ensuring the success of both the passing and running games.

Defense was healthy for the most part and simply kept under performing schematically and the talented players we had sprinkled all over the place looked to be struggling more times than not. Outside the corners who are a specialty of Wilks, can you say any of our other stud defensive players played their best ball last year?

You can blame Shanahan on the Wilks hire but they took a shot and it failed. That's Kyle owning a mistake, you guys want to somehow absolve Wilks from the blame but still put it on Kyle for making the move. Weird.

You can blame Kyle for not addressing the OL enough but also hard to do when the guy we had starting in the SB gets hurt and his replacement makes key mistakes he wasn't coached to do. Only so many resources to go around...hopefully this draft we'll address the position properly.

But once again - the Chiefs defense was very good. How do we blame all that on Kyle when the Chiefs have made many offense look mediocre this season coupled with the fact that you have normally reliable players making critical errors in the game? Or forgetting the fact that Spagnulo has a history of shutting down offenses with elite playmakers, elite coaches and QBs.

We can agree to disagree. I don't blame it all on Kyle. Brock missed some open guys. Burford missed his assignment. CMC fumbled, and Trent sabotaged a drive with multiple penalties. It's never an all or nothing. I do think we had 2 rings (3 if we count 2021) on a platter, all with 10 point leads, and we found the ways to the L with a lot of strategy blunders. One can say maybe 1 time is bad luck, but certain trend here, especially considering he was hired immediately in the wake of a SB loss and had to answer up to it at his intro presser.

If one throws on tape of SB 58 it's our guys clamped all game and having to go to real ancillary targets like Conley or JJ cuz their 2 CBs are owning our top WRs. I thought the Shanny advantage is he schemes guys open, well not when we needed it most. So he needs to get better if we want to win in February.
So the tape shows Kyle needs to be better but the tape doesn't show any issues with Wilks because look at his season numbers.

When did a 10 point lead against elite quarterbacks suddenly become insurmoutsble? Such a ridiculous talking point. That's like lamenting a 7 point lead vs Steph Curry or Reggie Miller.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Mar 20, 2024 at 1:52 PM ]
Announced today after first wave of free agency, 49'ers favorites to win Super Bowl 59 followed by Chiefs at number 2. This must aggravate Patrick Mahomes since he said he wants to be the team to beat which obviously he is not. No respect! I love it!😝
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So the tape shows Kyle needs to be better but the tape doesn't show any issues with Wilks because look at his season numbers.

When did a 10 point lead against elite quarterbacks suddenly become insurmoutsble? Such a ridiculous talking point. That's like lamenting a 7 point lead vs Steph Curry or Reggie Miller.

Since you brought up a basketball analogy, I feel like what the 49ers went through with playing Mahomes twice in the SB is similar to what the Jazz went through when they lost back to back Finals versus Jordan's Bulls. Just the s**ttiest luck to run up against the most clutch player at the time, on the biggest stage.
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Announced today after first wave of free agency, 49'ers favorites to win Super Bowl 59 followed by Chiefs at number 2. This must aggravate Patrick Mahomes since he said he wants to be the team to beat which obviously he is not. No respect! I love it!😝

I'd love a SB. f**k being the favorite
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So the tape shows Kyle needs to be better but the tape doesn't show any issues with Wilks because look at his season numbers.

When did a 10 point lead against elite quarterbacks suddenly become insurmoutsble? Such a ridiculous talking point. That's like lamenting a 7 point lead vs Steph Curry or Reggie Miller.

Since you brought up a basketball analogy, I feel like what the 49ers went through with playing Mahomes twice in the SB is similar to what the Jazz went through when they lost back to back Finals versus Jordan's Bulls. Just the s**ttiest luck to run up against the most clutch player at the time, on the biggest stage.

I would say get used to it, unless the plan is keep getting back and hoping someone like Flacco gets to the SB, oh wait...

lot of good QBs out there, Rodgers, Mahomes, Stroud, Burrow, Allen, gotta beat em to win rings. The old school 49ers beat Elway, Marino, Ken Anderson, Esiason, and the incomparable Stan Humphries

to add on here, your analogy is one reason why Belichick made some sense. He can match wits with how to stop Andy Reid. He's one of the great D minds of all time. Probably gives a better shot at stopping Mahomes than Wilks or Sorensen. Question of can we maintain the O at the same time.
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on Mar 20, 2024 at 2:15 PM ]
Originally posted by lamontb:
I'd love a SB. f**k being the favorite

At least it gives me something to look forward to!!!
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Montana:


Excuses excuses..win a damn trophy lol

Technically he's won two, since they do display the NFC trophies.

/awaits triggered reply in 3...2...

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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Montana:


Excuses excuses..win a damn trophy lol

Technically he's won two, since they do display the NFC trophies.

/awaits triggered reply in 3...2...

Keep them Halas coming!!!

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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
good piece, I like this one:

"In recent conversations with confidants at the 49ers' training facility, he wasn't afraid to admit the truth: The 49ers were fortunate to have made it to Vegas in the first place. They probably should have lost their playoff opener to an underwhelming Green Bay team and needed a huge second-half comeback - fueled by a 51-yard pass that bounced off a defender's facemask - to overcome Detroit in the NFC Championship Game."

shame and if we look at causes, I look at a wasted year at DC. Either let Wilks be Wilks, or hire Sorensen over him. Kyle's yelling at Wilks in the SB, you brought him there, could have moved on in October, course, he didn't. Then we see items like drafting Lance and losing absurd draft capital which could have pushed us over the line in years like 2021 or 2023. Not having the team prepped on basic rules. A ton of red flags. Probably the biggest is an O that struggled to move the ball all postseason, loaded with playmakers.

We all know you'll find a narrative to push if it's there despite the facts.

Deebo out early vs the Packers in the rain - 24 points scored
Lions 34 points scored.
22 points scored vs a defense averaging giving up 17.

One thing you guys seem to miss while pulling out all the stops to blame everything on Shanahan is player execution hurt us on offense, and the weakest unit on the roster happened to be the OL which goes a long way to ensuring the success of both the passing and running games.

Defense was healthy for the most part and simply kept under performing schematically and the talented players we had sprinkled all over the place looked to be struggling more times than not. Outside the corners who are a specialty of Wilks, can you say any of our other stud defensive players played their best ball last year?

You can blame Shanahan on the Wilks hire but they took a shot and it failed. That's Kyle owning a mistake, you guys want to somehow absolve Wilks from the blame but still put it on Kyle for making the move. Weird.

You can blame Kyle for not addressing the OL enough but also hard to do when the guy we had starting in the SB gets hurt and his replacement makes key mistakes he wasn't coached to do. Only so many resources to go around...hopefully this draft we'll address the position properly.

But once again - the Chiefs defense was very good. How do we blame all that on Kyle when the Chiefs have made many offense look mediocre this season coupled with the fact that you have normally reliable players making critical errors in the game? Or forgetting the fact that Spagnulo has a history of shutting down offenses with elite playmakers, elite coaches and QBs.

lol at Giving credit to the 49ers for scoring 22 on a Chiefs vaunted defense. Talk about pushing narratives
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
good piece, I like this one:

"In recent conversations with confidants at the 49ers' training facility, he wasn't afraid to admit the truth: The 49ers were fortunate to have made it to Vegas in the first place. They probably should have lost their playoff opener to an underwhelming Green Bay team and needed a huge second-half comeback - fueled by a 51-yard pass that bounced off a defender's facemask - to overcome Detroit in the NFC Championship Game."

shame and if we look at causes, I look at a wasted year at DC. Either let Wilks be Wilks, or hire Sorensen over him. Kyle's yelling at Wilks in the SB, you brought him there, could have moved on in October, course, he didn't. Then we see items like drafting Lance and losing absurd draft capital which could have pushed us over the line in years like 2021 or 2023. Not having the team prepped on basic rules. A ton of red flags. Probably the biggest is an O that struggled to move the ball all postseason, loaded with playmakers.

We all know you'll find a narrative to push if it's there despite the facts.

Deebo out early vs the Packers in the rain - 24 points scored
Lions 34 points scored.
22 points scored vs a defense averaging giving up 17.

One thing you guys seem to miss while pulling out all the stops to blame everything on Shanahan is player execution hurt us on offense, and the weakest unit on the roster happened to be the OL which goes a long way to ensuring the success of both the passing and running games.

Defense was healthy for the most part and simply kept under performing schematically and the talented players we had sprinkled all over the place looked to be struggling more times than not. Outside the corners who are a specialty of Wilks, can you say any of our other stud defensive players played their best ball last year?

You can blame Shanahan on the Wilks hire but they took a shot and it failed. That's Kyle owning a mistake, you guys want to somehow absolve Wilks from the blame but still put it on Kyle for making the move. Weird.

You can blame Kyle for not addressing the OL enough but also hard to do when the guy we had starting in the SB gets hurt and his replacement makes key mistakes he wasn't coached to do. Only so many resources to go around...hopefully this draft we'll address the position properly.

But once again - the Chiefs defense was very good. How do we blame all that on Kyle when the Chiefs have made many offense look mediocre this season coupled with the fact that you have normally reliable players making critical errors in the game? Or forgetting the fact that Spagnulo has a history of shutting down offenses with elite playmakers, elite coaches and QBs.

lol at Giving credit to the 49ers for scoring 22 on a Chiefs vaunted defense. Talk about pushing narratives

You really are clueless at football Go follow a different sport. Bowling might be easier for you to understand
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