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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It can go beyond flaws, depending on your view. Like the worst draft investement in team history, during a SB window no less, and near zero ROI. That was likely all him. I don't buy Jed or Lynch calling QB shots. Or having the play sheet as these 10 pt leads disintegrate. Over, and over, and over. I don't care how you slice the DC maneuvers, they sucked. I think he should have empowered Wilks and had him run his scheme, or hire Sorensen a year sooner. So there are most likely rings we left on the table. How about having this team as unprepared for a big moment as any club we have seen over 58 SBs? Can you name any SB moment as unprepared as our OT? The takeaway on that game will forever be they planned for the moment and we didn't, and lost. Now if this is enough to get him on the hot seat or out is subjective to who is making that determination. Some owners are more accepting of missteps than others. I'll say Harbs got canned for much less, Harbs never really made huge mistakes, he just butted heads with ppl in the FO including the bossman.

lol I was with you for some of those until you went back to the hyperbole BS of being unprepared for a the big moment thing.

Im honestly sick of doing this run around again and again. Fact is this was the first time teams played with this new format and no matter how many times you act like 49ers not going over the rules ahead of the game changed nothing about why it had no impact on the loss.

You act like OT set new rules in place or passing yards counted different from rushing yards. It was football. Our goal was to score a TD and stop KC from matching or exceeding that.

We didn't get the TD and we didn't stop KC from getting theirs. You honestly believe Kyle not drilling the new OT rules changed that? Did the team somehow believe getting 3 points on the first drive actually counts as 9 and letting KC get a TD on their drive was fine?

Stop it. You can argue with the choice to get the ball first but there are pros and cons to each option and more logic actually pointed to it being a wise choice given what was happening in the game. It's just an easy one to rip apart given the results.

Much like your complaint about drafting Trey. To me that's a plus for Kyle the HC but a concern for Kyle the QB draft evaluator. We knew we had to replace Jimmy. I have 0 problem with them swinging for the fences with the QB pick if you don't have one. They saw an opportunity and went for it. It didn't work out and it sucks but we lucked into Purdy so it didn't hurt nearly as bad as it could have.

It's funny you blame Kyle for hiring Wilks and not letting him do his own thing…as if we haven't seen Wilks do some of his own thing this year in epic fail fashion. We have no idea what Sorensen would've done had he got the job last year. Guy was with the team for 2 years then I believe. That's a tough ask. But of course you won't actually put any ownership on Wilks for his job. It shouldn't be up to Kyle to micromanage Wilks. Everyone blamed Kyle for the Falcons SB loss when the HC was a defensive guy and they blew a 28-3 lead. The defense this SB played well most of the game but scheme and playcall wise one coach choked late in that game and it wasn't the guy calling the offense plays.

It's also hilarious to me that you claim Harbs got fired for less. You want to talk unprepared for SBs? Do you recall how the SB under Harbaugh started? We weren't paying Mahomes. It was Joe Flacco. We had the best OL in the game, dominant defense and arguably one of the most dangerous QBs in the game at that time and two elite TEs when our offense was clicking. We start the game with an illegal formation and needed a blackout to help kill the Ravens momentum so we could make it a game at the end…and on 1st and goal we don't let Frank Gore get a single carry and run it just once with LaMichael James and Harbs' slow ass playcall style utilizing 3 different coaches results in him panic calling a timeout and taking off a likely game leading TD.

But yes Kyle was the one who came into the SB unprepared…
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Harbs choked to the absolute worst SB winner of the 21st century. Was a 5.5 point favorite if memory serves. If that's not a "mistake" I don't know what is.

Being "unprepared for ot " is somehow worse than being completely unprepared for 2 1/2 quarters and needing a long stoppage to regroup to keep from getting curb stomped in a SB? Make it make sense.

It's like some people forgot how bad we showed up in that SB and what happened to get us back into it.

Imagine saying Harbs didn't make any big mistakes after watching that SB performance? Even the end with the goal line disaster in many ways.

Let's also just gloss over the fact he was fired after going 8-8 and having the offense perform
worse than before he got there and Jim was brought in to help the offense…

It's like some fans just want change so much they ignore simple facts and history to push their narrative.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Harbs choked to the absolute worst SB winner of the 21st century. Was a 5.5 point favorite if memory serves. If that's not a "mistake" I don't know what is.

Being "unprepared for ot " is somehow worse than being completely unprepared for 2 1/2 quarters and needing a long stoppage to regroup to keep from getting curb stomped in a SB? Make it make sense.

I don't recall any team leaders saying we didn't prepare for specific situations after SB 47

Being down 28-6 after the opening 2nd half kickoff says they were unprepared.

Starting the game with an illegal formation play screams they were unprepared.

But you're right it was Kyle that had the team
unprepared for a situation that was never guaranteed to happen…but Harbs having the team totally underperform in regulation wasn't a big issue.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Pretty sure we were favorites against KC both times. Yes we choked. It's obvious. No reason to spin it…

What a shocker you're wrong again.

Chiefs were favored in 2019.
We were favored by 2 last year and yet virtually every person was picking KC to win in the media because of Mahomes.
Originally posted by genus49:
Being down 28-6 after the opening 2nd half kickoff says they were unprepared.

Starting the game with an illegal formation play screams they were unprepared.

But you're right it was Kyle that had the team
unprepared for a situation that was never guaranteed to happen…but Harbs having the team totally underperform in regulation wasn't a big issue.

There's a big difference between you saying it and it coming from the players themselves
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on Mar 30, 2024 at 7:39 AM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by genus49:
Being down 28-6 after the opening 2nd half kickoff says they were unprepared.

Starting the game with an illegal formation play screams they were unprepared.

But you're right it was Kyle that had the team
unprepared for a situation that was never guaranteed to happen…but Harbs having the team totally underperform in regulation wasn't a big issue.

There's a big difference between you saying it and it coming from the players themselves

What did the players say that showed the team wasn't prepared for the SB this past season?

The only thing I recall that actually impacted the game was not being ready for Mahomes keeper. Something I'm sure you'd blame on Kyle and not the DC in charge of the defense.

Players don't have to say it to show it. Harbaugh had the whole team on media lock down anyways. That's why things didn't come out until after he left.
Originally posted by genus49:
What a shocker you're wrong again.

Chiefs were favored in 2019.
We were favored by 2 last year and yet virtually every person was picking KC to win in the media because of Mahomes.

I never understood how this line never moved despite everyone and their dog being on KC.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Pretty sure we were favorites against KC both times. Yes we choked. It's obvious. No reason to spin it…

They were not favorites the first time. This time it was 1.5. A far cry from 5.5.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There's a big difference between you saying it and it coming from the players themselves

So screwing up the first play of the game indicated to you the team was prepared?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There's a big difference between you saying it and it coming from the players themselves

So screwing up the first play of the game indicated to you the team was prepared?

If the players didn't say they screwed up the first play of the game then did it really happen?
Pretty crazy that the 49ers went from five Super Bowls to being a punching bag for jokes about losing them. Cold world. But deserved
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Pretty crazy that the 49ers went from five Super Bowls to being a punching bag for jokes about losing them. Cold world. But deserved

Only people making jokes are the clowns here
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Pretty crazy that the 49ers went from five Super Bowls to being a punching bag for jokes about losing them. Cold world. But deserved

Only people making jokes are the clowns here

Step outside the 49erswebzone bubble. I know it feels nice sitting around the campfire high fiving each other on the recent successes (or lack thereof) of the team, but in the real world NFL pundits and fans do think we're a joke. Of course you (and your ilk) don't care because Kyle is the greatest thing since sliced bread in your minds, but maybe getting a little perspective might help.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
There's a big difference between you saying it and it coming from the players themselves

So screwing up the first play of the game indicated to you the team was prepared?

If the players didn't say they screwed up the first play of the game then did it really happen?

We can pontificate our theories on here, players saying publicly that they didn't go over it, it wasn't discussed, they don't really know the strategy, that's red flags in my book. Didn't happen under JH, or enlighten me if it did, and I forgot..

Why not call a spade a spade. I can say Kyle has done a great job on his hires, putting a staff together, having a high level of production on O, I have no prob pointing out all he does correct. My issue, is ppl on here saying he's captain clutch or a big game HC so far he isn't.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Pretty crazy that the 49ers went from five Super Bowls to being a punching bag for jokes about losing them. Cold world. But deserved

Only people making jokes are the clowns here

Step outside the 49erswebzone bubble. I know it feels nice sitting around the campfire high fiving each other on the recent successes (or lack thereof) of the team, but in the real world NFL pundits and fans do think we're a joke. Of course you (and your ilk) don't care because Kyle is the greatest thing since sliced bread in your minds, but maybe getting a little perspective might help.

I haven't heard any other pundits clown us. Then again I don't watch/ listen to crap like Skip Bayless, Cohn, or Cowherd. I'm sure you do though. Mostly all the non click bait guys saw two good teams playing and a game that went to OT. Anyone who said we're a joke are f**king morons.
[ Edited by GoreGoreGore on Apr 1, 2024 at 1:07 PM ]
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