49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Nope.

Nobody thinks Spags is unbeatable either. Our offense is really good and it's capable of getting bogged down by a great defense. This isn't hard.

Members of this forum are just so incapable of admitting the other team was better. It happens. Instead it's either a grand ref conspiracy or completely all Kyles fault.

Imagine Bengals fans thinking their coaches choked twice in the 80s instead of giving the 9ers credit for being better.

Shanahan was targeting Deebo against man-coverage the entire second half and calling empty backfields all the time but yeah.......we lost because Spags is an unbeatable genius.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Nope.

Nobody thinks Spags is unbeatable either. Our offense is really good and it's capable of getting bogged down by a great defense. This isn't hard.

Members of this forum are just so incapable of admitting the other team was better. It happens. Instead it's either a grand ref conspiracy or completely all Kyles fault.

Imagine Bengals fans thinking their coaches choked twice in the 80s instead of giving the 9ers credit for being better.

Imagine thinking things are this simple.

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Imagine thinking things are this simple.

It literally is.

"Are you telling me only Sam Wyche can take Bengals to a SB?"

"No but the chances of him doing better than his replacement going forward is pretty high given his success"

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
It says a bunch of guys left lol. Few didn't work out, the ones who didn't were due to injuries.

I'd also say it's still a strength but we all know it can be better. We know what we can do on offense these days at full strength but having the DL we had in 2019 would be hard to stop with this offense.

yeah, not much, at least vs KC
therein lies the prob, we were very much at full strength, and we get 3.5 YPC and 19-20 pts
I'm putting my hope in Brock as Brady 2.0 maybe he just levels up to insane degrees, could happen..

It's hilariously stupid to pretend the SB performance was indicative of the whole season and you actually writing it out like that just shows how hard it is to take your points seriously.

Guess what KC was really good on defense. From player and coaching standpoint. Scheme wise there were plays there to be made against them just like they were there against Baltimore and we failed to make the plays.

Sometimes it's not something you can control. The 2007 Patriots offense was one of the best ever and led by a veteran Tom Brady in his best season. A less talented Giants defense held them to 14 points.

It happens. You wouldn't act like that Pats offense wasn't anything special. All it says is versus really good defenses that are also extremely well coached you can't afford many mistakes.

Go back and look at the game with a magnifying glass and you'll see mistake after mistake in inopportune time that held us back.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
The whole post was silly. 38 on Spags if you recall regular season, or did you forget.

You can't possibly believe this helps your point.

How do you interpret his point? It reads like Spags is unbeatable, after all he held Brady/Moss to 14. That's a silly point tho. Spags is beaten all the time, this year by the Raiders, and the Broncos, who had bad years. Good coach, but yeah you gotta beat good players and coaches, that's the job. NE at least demonstrated they could move and score on Spags. Has Kyle? I don't think he has beaten Spags in the KC tenure.

His point was clear to anyone without mental gymnastics trying to put everything on Kyle Shanahan.

Even great offenses can be stopped and 1 game sample size, even in the SB doesn't change the overall production. You tried to act like the 49ers offense wasn't good enough simply because of the result in the SB.

Same logic can easily be applied to the Pats in 2007 and unlike the Pats that SB we had better chances to win the game and failed either on defense or due to lack of execution on well designed plays on offense.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How do you interpret his point? It reads like Spags is unbeatable, after all he held Brady/Moss to 14. That's a silly point tho. Spags is beaten all the time, this year by the Raiders, and the Broncos, who had bad years. Good coach, but yeah you gotta beat good players and coaches, that's the job. NE at least demonstrated they could move and score on Spags. Has Kyle? I don't think he has beaten Spags in the KC tenure.

4 time SB champion. Arguably the best DC ever. No one is unbeatable but there is zero shame in losing to him or the Chiefs.

You really should just stick to rooting for the Vikes and the Rams backup QB. We have better more experienced trolls.

you know what else was silly about your post, NE won six rings. They beat Spags and Reid in Arrowhead, and Reid in the SB. keep thinking this one DC is unbeatable so you don't have to evaluate the film

Wasn't Spags...maybe research before calling someone out?

And nobody said Spags is unbeatable and you know this. Just that he's really really good and had an excellent defense to work with. It was strength on strength. It happens.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Shanahan was targeting Deebo against man-coverage the entire second half and calling empty backfields all the time but yeah.......we lost because Spags is an unbeatable genius.

You can tell casual fans by their posts.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
It says a bunch of guys left lol. Few didn't work out, the ones who didn't were due to injuries.

I'd also say it's still a strength but we all know it can be better. We know what we can do on offense these days at full strength but having the DL we had in 2019 would be hard to stop with this offense.

yeah, not much, at least vs KC
therein lies the prob, we were very much at full strength, and we get 3.5 YPC and 19-20 pts
I'm putting my hope in Brock as Brady 2.0 maybe he just levels up to insane degrees, could happen..

It's hilariously stupid to pretend the SB performance was indicative of the whole season and you actually writing it out like that just shows how hard it is to take your points seriously.

Guess what KC was really good on defense. From player and coaching standpoint. Scheme wise there were plays there to be made against them just like they were there against Baltimore and we failed to make the plays.

Sometimes it's not something you can control. The 2007 Patriots offense was one of the best ever and led by a veteran Tom Brady in his best season. A less talented Giants defense held them to 14 points.

It happens. You wouldn't act like that Pats offense wasn't anything special. All it says is versus really good defenses that are also extremely well coached you can't afford many mistakes.

Go back and look at the game with a magnifying glass and you'll see mistake after mistake in inopportune time that held us back.

The best team doesn't always win. We've seen that time and time again in the regular season and the playoffs. It often comes down to who's hot at the right time in the playoffs and who makes the fewest mistakes. The best play calling in the world can't overcome those mistakes. As you pointed out, look at a couple of missed opportunities in that SB. Look at that unfortunate muffed punt that bounced off a blockers leg. That may have been the difference in the game.

The little things often make the biggest difference.

Originally posted by genus49:
His point was clear to anyone without mental gymnastics trying to put everything on Kyle Shanahan.

Even great offenses can be stopped and 1 game sample size, even in the SB doesn't change the overall production. You tried to act like the 49ers offense wasn't good enough simply because of the result in the SB.

Same logic can easily be applied to the Pats in 2007 and unlike the Pats that SB we had better chances to win the game and failed either on defense or due to lack of execution on well designed plays on offense.

it ain't 1 game sample size tho now is it?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it ain't 1 game sample size tho now is it?

Steve Wilks wouldve saved the day as HC in all those games

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it ain't 1 game sample size tho now is it?

Steve Wilks wouldve saved the day as HC in all those games

I notice whenever you have no argument, you pivot into off topic nonsense,
so basically every post

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it ain't 1 game sample size tho now is it?

You're referencing games when we didn't have a great offense… like in '19, and '21… and lumping it in with this year. We've had a great offense for a season and a half.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it ain't 1 game sample size tho now is it?

You're referencing games when we didn't have a great offense… like in '19, and '21… and lumping it in with this year. We've had a great offense for a season and a half.

We scored more ppg in 2019 than we did last season. We ranked 2nd in ppg in the league. 4th in yds. So the O arrived that year, and it's been strong ever since. I would say the roster is most talented last year, but we haven't gotten by KC at any point be in 19, 22 or 23. So it's hard for me to sit here and say well Spags got the best in one game, as if Kyle has gotten the better of it in his fair share of those matchups. He hasn't.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
His point was clear to anyone without mental gymnastics trying to put everything on Kyle Shanahan.

Even great offenses can be stopped and 1 game sample size, even in the SB doesn't change the overall production. You tried to act like the 49ers offense wasn't good enough simply because of the result in the SB.

Same logic can easily be applied to the Pats in 2007 and unlike the Pats that SB we had better chances to win the game and failed either on defense or due to lack of execution on well designed plays on offense.

it ain't 1 game sample size tho now is it?

With this offense? Yes 1 size.

Unless you think Jimmy G missing plays left and right as a vet is comparable.