49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by genus49:
Here comes old Faithful to help put this back on Shanahan.

49ers offense faced one of the best defenses in the league and with one of the best coordinators coaching them.

The defense faced an offense that was middle of the pack this past season. Yes the offense should've been better but you're choosing to bury your head in the sand when it comes to realizing why the offense struggled, both in terms of glossing over how good KC defense was and the amount of mistakes by the actual players despite the scheme giving them plays to make vs that talented defense.

CMC fumbling while we were driving on the first down.
Trent Williams single handedly killed the 2nd drive with penalties. We had first down on the Chiefs 48 had the refs not thrown that tick tacky holding call on him(pretty frustrating to see that called and then KC allowed to straight up tackle our guys but that's another story)

We all know the struggles in the 3rd quarter but go back and watch those plays. Full of bad OL play and missed blocks with open guys for big plays. And when you only manage to have 9 plays in 3 drives...only so much you can really nitpick outside of just saying they were wasted drives which they were.

You had neutrals doing the broadcast, saying SF should be up more, at halftime, that's the reality

and btw saying we should be up more, notice I am not saying that's on Shanny entirely, players also particularly drive 1 and drive 2, I said it's on the offense for doing zilch

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You had neutrals doing the broadcast, saying SF should be up more, at halftime, that's the reality

CMC doesn't fumble and we likely are.

Who are the 'neutrals' by the way?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Kyle is 72-55 as the 49ers head caoch. That includes the rebuilding years and the years when G was injured a lot. With a healthyQB he'sbeen very successful. He's gotten them to the SB twice and the NFC title game 4 times. All that adds up to being a good coach in my book. The fact that he lost twice in the SB doesn't mean he can't coach. In both of the losses it was player mistakes more than anything that cost them the game. Did he make some bad calls? Sure. Every coach does. He also made good calls that the players screwed up.

Most importantly he rebuilt the image of the 49ers. They were a complete clown show after Baalke/Tomsula/Chip tenures.

Very much so. Good times ahead.

Nah according to some "fans" we are the laughing stock of the NFL

No, we're not, just KC's b***h.

Hardly. A close overtime win.

And yet Kyle's found a way to lose every single time.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Here comes old Faithful to help put this back on Shanahan.

49ers offense faced one of the best defenses in the league and with one of the best coordinators coaching them.

The defense faced an offense that was middle of the pack this past season. Yes the offense should've been better but you're choosing to bury your head in the sand when it comes to realizing why the offense struggled, both in terms of glossing over how good KC defense was and the amount of mistakes by the actual players despite the scheme giving them plays to make vs that talented defense.

CMC fumbling while we were driving on the first down.
Trent Williams single handedly killed the 2nd drive with penalties. We had first down on the Chiefs 48 had the refs not thrown that tick tacky holding call on him(pretty frustrating to see that called and then KC allowed to straight up tackle our guys but that's another story)

We all know the struggles in the 3rd quarter but go back and watch those plays. Full of bad OL play and missed blocks with open guys for big plays. And when you only manage to have 9 plays in 3 drives...only so much you can really nitpick outside of just saying they were wasted drives which they were.

You had neutrals doing the broadcast, saying SF should be up more, at halftime, that's the reality

and btw saying we should be up more, notice I am not saying that's on Shanny entirely, players also particularly drive 1 and drive 2, I said it's on the offense for doing zilch

No sh*t. 49ers had 5 drives in the first half that weren't limited by time.

Fumble at the KC 29 on a first down play
Punt after a first down at the KC 48 got wiped away from Trent's holding call
FG
Punt
TD

Outside of the 2nd punt drive they were in KC territory or should've been there and against one of the top defenses in the league this year.

KC defense has shut down the bulk of the teams they played this year. That's what happens...you make too many mistakes, the other team hangs around and if things don't go your way in the end you find yourselves losing a game you should've won.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Kyle is 72-55 as the 49ers head caoch. That includes the rebuilding years and the years when G was injured a lot. With a healthyQB he'sbeen very successful. He's gotten them to the SB twice and the NFC title game 4 times. All that adds up to being a good coach in my book. The fact that he lost twice in the SB doesn't mean he can't coach. In both of the losses it was player mistakes more than anything that cost them the game. Did he make some bad calls? Sure. Every coach does. He also made good calls that the players screwed up.

Most importantly he rebuilt the image of the 49ers. They were a complete clown show after Baalke/Tomsula/Chip tenures.

Very much so. Good times ahead.

Nah according to some "fans" we are the laughing stock of the NFL

No, we're not, just KC's b***h.

I forgot if you were the guy that posted we're a laughing stock of the NFL, or that you rather having losing seasons then lose in the playoffs/SB

Either way clown takes.

None.

I posted Kyle's a choke artist.

But you're a Shanalover, so I guess that's way beyond your comprehension.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by genus49:
This has come up a few times and I still believe it was the right decision at the time. Easy to say it was wrong now since we know KC wins the game with a TD drive on their possession but at the time KC hadn't scored a TD without being handed the ball on our own 15 yard line. We knew they could score FGs(another reason taking the ball first in OT made sense)

Kyle was definitely not perfect and we can certainly call every minor thing out but you listed all the errors in the game completely out of his control and clearly not something he was coaching for and realize we didn't lose the game because of Kyle. It was a long list of errors and against a well coached team with some elite level players if you let them hang around bad things can happen in a close game. Doesn't help when the other team also gets favorable looks by the officiating crew.

And yes losing the SB is brutal but thinking you'd rather lose earlier is also loser behavior. We should be upset we didn't pull out the win but be able to appreciate the season the team put together.

I think if a single one of these things changes the 49ers are going into this season as defending SB champs.

CMC fumble
Trent Williams holding call on the 2nd drive
Greenlaw injury
Feliciano injury
Punt hitting Luter's leg
McCloud not falling on that ball - same play obviously but I feel like we were unlucky enough where both things happened. Luter's leg getting hit is just bad luck, McCloud thinking he should pick it up and "make a play" as he said and not just fall on it and ensure we keep possession are two separate mistakes.
Brock not throwing to Aiyuk vs JJ on the 2 minute 3rd down
Burford not blocking Chris Jones and doing his own thing

And that list doesn't include all the missed holding calls on KC, protection mistakes, penalties hurting us from extending drives or putting us in favorable down and distance situations.

It's very frustrating knowing that KC wasn't at their best on offense and we still blew this game but it's not easy to win vs good teams and we clearly have to break the KC trend if we want to hold a new Lombardi any time soon.

Let's hope we have a great draft class and get a big 2nd year jump from last year's so far meh class and get right back to it and finish it off with a W this time!

You are correct in your overall analysis...

I just watched the superbowl again for the first time since the painful incident. It was everything that could go wrong went wrong. We were gifted som Pi non calls and they were gifted many holding non calls. I'll call it a wash...

I think the biggest thing that went wrong was Greenlaws injury without him Mahomes was having fun and Kelce was wide open. He could run up the middle and Wilks kept calling 0 protection blitz that left a hole in the D. That's one problem solved. He did call a good game before Greenlaws injury until the end.

God I hope we fix our line from the middle right before the season starts. I don't care how we do it, just hope we do it.

I have to re think what happened and what was the biggest culprit.

You have a point about Greenlaw's injury, but I have yet to hear an argument that will make me change my mind that the punt muff (Luter's ankle) was the single biggest turning point in that game. KC was struggling to get field goals even after the Greenlaw injury. After the punt muff, touchdown.

Yes that one still hurts....That and CMC's fumble.

Originally posted by Koldo:
None.

I posted Kyle's a choke artist.

But you're a Shanalover, so I guess that's way beyond your comprehension.

Still waiting for you to practice holding your breath

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Koldo:
None.

I posted Kyle's a choke artist.

But you're a Shanalover, so I guess that's way beyond your comprehension.

Still waiting for you to practice holding your breath

good one

How many SBs does he need to lose for his fan club to realize he is not the guy that will bring home the trophy? Is it 3 with the niners plus one as the OC ? 4+1? 5+1? Is there no limit? Yup. He gets to o n the falcons loss. As the oc he is making calls that the impact the outcome. No escaping that fact. He may not be the sole reason they lost but he had a lot to do with it. Oh.. I forgot, we have to name his replacement and his fan club needs to agree before they even get close to discussing his limitations and his record. Until then he is to be honored and revered as a genius. Best indicator of future performance is past performance. Stay happy with post season appearances because it's gonna be a while before we are champs again. I just pray we don't waste Brock P and the star studded lineup we have while the Kyle show continues.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
How many SBs does he need to lose for his fan club to realize he is not the guy that will bring home the trophy? Is it 3 with the niners plus one as the OC ? 4+1? 5+1? Is there no limit? Yup. He gets to o n the falcons loss. As the oc he is making calls that the impact the outcome. No escaping that fact. He may not be the sole reason they lost but he had a lot to do with it. Oh.. I forgot, we have to name his replacement and his fan club needs to agree before they even get close to discussing his limitations and his record. Until then he is to be honored and revered as a genius. Best indicator of future performance is past performance. Stay happy with post season appearances because it's gonna be a while before we are champs again. I just pray we don't waste Brock P and the star studded lineup we have while the Kyle show continues.

This is the question ppl keep dodging or saying isn't a good question. Get real I say to them. The reality is we are a SB window team with a HC who, while productive, gets the yips in the big game. It's kind of an issue. I would have at least explored Belichick. Not often you get a Mt Rushmore level HC in the cycle for the taking; a guy with 8 rings. He kind of knows his way around the Super Bowl. His downfall was GM related and our team is built. I think he would be able to coach certified studs like CMC, Bosa, Warner, Trent, among others. Ask yourself who would you rather have in the big game?

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
How many SBs does he need to lose for his fan club to realize he is not the guy that will bring home the trophy? Is it 3 with the niners plus one as the OC ? 4+1? 5+1? Is there no limit? Yup. He gets to o n the falcons loss. As the oc he is making calls that the impact the outcome. No escaping that fact. He may not be the sole reason they lost but he had a lot to do with it. Oh.. I forgot, we have to name his replacement and his fan club needs to agree before they even get close to discussing his limitations and his record. Until then he is to be honored and revered as a genius. Best indicator of future performance is past performance. Stay happy with post season appearances because it's gonna be a while before we are champs again. I just pray we don't waste Brock P and the star studded lineup we have while the Kyle show continues.

LOL. If you're going to try to hang the Atl loss on the OC, then by all means you should hang the last loss on the DC. "A while before we are champs again" what a privileged take. Makes me wonder just how long you've been a fan, or a follower of football for that matter. LOL. You should thank your lucky stars that you aren't a fan or the numerous teams that have NEVER been to the SB, let alone, win one.
You all act like getting the the SB is easy. Anybody can do that, right? LOL.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
How many SBs does he need to lose for his fan club to realize he is not the guy that will bring home the trophy? Is it 3 with the niners plus one as the OC ? 4+1? 5+1? Is there no limit? Yup. He gets to o n the falcons loss. As the oc he is making calls that the impact the outcome. No escaping that fact. He may not be the sole reason they lost but he had a lot to do with it. Oh.. I forgot, we have to name his replacement and his fan club needs to agree before they even get close to discussing his limitations and his record. Until then he is to be honored and revered as a genius. Best indicator of future performance is past performance. Stay happy with post season appearances because it's gonna be a while before we are champs again. I just pray we don't waste Brock P and the star studded lineup we have while the Kyle show continues.

Always one of my favorite comments mixed in with criticisms of KS.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
How many SBs does he need to lose for his fan club to realize he is not the guy that will bring home the trophy? Is it 3 with the niners plus one as the OC ? 4+1? 5+1? Is there no limit? Yup. He gets to o n the falcons loss. As the oc he is making calls that the impact the outcome. No escaping that fact. He may not be the sole reason they lost but he had a lot to do with it. Oh.. I forgot, we have to name his replacement and his fan club needs to agree before they even get close to discussing his limitations and his record. Until then he is to be honored and revered as a genius. Best indicator of future performance is past performance. Stay happy with post season appearances because it's gonna be a while before we are champs again. I just pray we don't waste Brock P and the star studded lineup we have while the Kyle show continues.

If that was true why did Pete Carroll or Bill Bellicheck succeed when they originally failed? Why did Joe Gibbs fail miserably the last time around? Dick Vermeil?

Yes you should be able to identify who the replacement is. That is a pretty big part of things.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
If that was true why did Pete Carroll or Bill Bellicheck succeed when they originally failed? Why did Joe Gibbs fail miserably the last time around? Dick Vermeil?

Yes you should be able to identify who the replacement is. That is a pretty big part of things.

this is all beside the point as we are running it back with Shanny. Maybe a new hat will do the trick in 2024

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
this is all beside the point as we are running it back with Shanny. Maybe a new hat will do the trick in 2024

Or finally having a real QB develop even more in his 3rd season.