49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The point was execution vs lights. Not how great Harbaugh is

So when LaMichael James fumbles it's bad execution. When Christian fumbles it's a choke job by the coach.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

The point was execution vs lights. Not how great Harbaugh is

So when LaMichael James fumbles it's bad execution. When Christian fumbles it's a choke job by the coach.

I've never blamed that on Kyle lol. It's just the overall lack of creativity. We look at him as the smartest offensive mind in the league, and he struggles to score 20 in the SB. He has more than enough on offense to do better. Our defense gives everything they got in these SBs, and Kyle keeps laying duds. I'm not okay with that

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I've never blamed that on Kyle lol. It's just the overall lack of creativity. We look at him as the smartest offensive mind in the league, and he struggles to score 20 in the SB. He has more than enough on offense to do better. Our defense gives everything they got in these SBs, and Kyle keeps laying duds. I'm not okay with that

He didn't in 2019. Had a dud playing the most important position.

This year he was actually playing an elite D, not a middling D from 12 years ago that really wasn't actually special.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

I've never blamed that on Kyle lol. It's just the overall lack of creativity. We look at him as the smartest offensive mind in the league, and he struggles to score 20 in the SB. He has more than enough on offense to do better. Our defense gives everything they got in these SBs, and Kyle keeps laying duds. I'm not okay with that

He didn't in 2019. Had a dud playing the most important position.

This year he was actually playing an elite D, not a middling D from 12 years ago that really wasn't actually special.

I'm done with the excuses. I expect the smartest guy in the league to deliver

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
That was an offensive team and their offensive coordinators decisions lost it for them, and he's supposed to be a genius. That's where the blame goes first

Like I said, there is no way to prove we needed the lights. We came back from 17 down in like a quarter without any lights out. Our offense stopped shooting itself in the foot, and Fangio made the right adjustments at halftime. Based on what i saw in the first half and in the NFCCG, I don't agree the lights were needed

Nonsense. They put up 28 points on the best defense that year. Even if you took away the defensive score that's 21 points,
something the Patriots allowed only 5 times that season outside of the SB.

Offense did its job. The HC who is a defensive guy gets no blame. The QB who took a critical sack, coughed up the football in key moments late in the game gets no blame.

Kyle only made 1 big mistake in that game and that was the playcall on 2nd down where Ryan took the brutal sack. But despite the bad playcall what made it way worse was Ryan taking the sack. Then the LT held on the next play. This is not on Kyle.

Nobody complained when Kyle dialed up the big pass play to Jones to get them into NE territory but when Ryan can't avoid a sack with plenty of time to do so it's still Kyle?

Did you blame the 2019 SB loss on Saleh? It was a defensive team and they gave up 21 points in like 7 minutes.

Dont compare the Falcons NFCCG to the SB either. Score was 24-14. 10 point lead at the half and we got the ball to start the 2nd half which we scored a TD on to make it 24-21, 3 point deficit to overcome vs a pass heavy offense that didn't run the ball well.

Versus the SB when we were down 21-6, 15 point lead for Baltimore with them getting the ball
to open the 2nd half, which they took back for a TD and made it 28-6, a 22 point deficit to overcome vs a strong running team.

Outside of us having to come back in the 2nd half the two are not comparable.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The point was execution vs lights. Not how great Harbaugh is

So when LaMichael James fumbles it's bad execution. When Christian fumbles it's a choke job by the coach.

I've never blamed that on Kyle lol. It's just the overall lack of creativity. We look at him as the smartest offensive mind in the league, and he struggles to score 20 in the SB. He has more than enough on offense to do better. Our defense gives everything they got in these SBs, and Kyle keeps laying duds. I'm not okay with that

CMC fumbling at the KC 29 doesn't impact the point total?

Trent killing a drive with back to back penalties doesn't impact the point total?
Burford missing blocks on open TD plays doesn't impact the point total?

Deebo not being able to separate from McDuffie doesn't impact the point total?

KC dominant defense doesn't play a factor at all? He playcalling on air?

You claim you don't want want excuses but can't stop talking about how the 49ers in 2012 just needed to clean things up and it wasn't the 34 minute blackout that took away Ravens momentum and let us get back into it. Those aren't excuses…just execution issues that had to get cleaned up.

Wonder what would've happened if Kyle got an extra 34 minutes to figure things out.

They win the SB if Kyle doesn't make that bad decision though. 21 points lol that is bad for a historic offense

And now that you break it down like that, those games are pretty much the same minus a kick return. Just shows we definitely didn't need lights to make a comeback

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They win the SB if Kyle doesn't make that bad decision though. 21 points lol that is bad for a historic offense

And now that you break it down like that, those games are pretty much the same minus a kick return. Just shows we definitely didn't need lights to make a comeback

There is no arguing with someone as delusional as you. At least you picked a good name.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They win the SB if Kyle doesn't make that bad decision though. 21 points lol that is bad for a historic offense

And now that you break it down like that, those games are pretty much the same minus a kick return. Just shows we definitely didn't need lights to make a comeback

When you are playing elite Ds it isn't. When you play middling defenses like the Ravens it is.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They win the SB if Kyle doesn't make that bad decision though. 21 points lol that is bad for a historic offense

And now that you break it down like that, those games are pretty much the same minus a kick return. Just shows we definitely didn't need lights to make a comeback

When you are playing elite Ds it isn't. When you play middling defenses like the Ravens it is.

Kyle is a genius he should be able to move KC's defenders with his mind.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

They win the SB if Kyle doesn't make that bad decision though. 21 points lol that is bad for a historic offense

And now that you break it down like that, those games are pretty much the same minus a kick return. Just shows we definitely didn't need lights to make a comeback

When you are playing elite Ds it isn't. When you play middling defenses like the Ravens it is.

Middling defense that beat multiple HOFers on the way to the SB? And Harbaugh still put up more yards and points in the SB than Kyle. With less talent. Stop with the excuses

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They win the SB if Kyle doesn't make that bad decision though. 21 points lol that is bad for a historic offense

And now that you break it down like that, those games are pretty much the same minus a kick return. Just shows we definitely didn't need lights to make a comeback

When you are playing elite Ds it isn't. When you play middling defenses like the Ravens it is.

Middling defense that beat multiple HOFers on the way to the SB? And Harbaugh still put up more yards and points in the SB than Kyle. With less talent. Stop with the excuses

Yes Middling defense.

12th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed is a far cry from 2nd in both the Chiefs were this last season.

They beat Denver giving up 35. They beat Brady without Gronk who was a huge part of that offense.

They were far from the caliber of defense the 49ers saw in this SB.

As for less talent lol now you're just BSing.

Better OL easily.
Better 2 TE set
Better defense.
WRs and CMC this year were better but not like Frank Gore behind that OL was a slouch and Crabtree and Moss weren't exactly trash.
And you had Kap arguably in his prime before people could study him.

Give this 49ers team Staley, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone and Davis as the OL and they're winning easily even vs the Chiefs D.

Outside of WR and maybe safety you can't say any part of the Ravens was better.

Originally posted by genus49:

Yes Middling defense.

12th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed is a far cry from 2nd in both the Chiefs were this last season.

They beat Denver giving up 35. They beat Brady without Gronk who was a huge part of that offense.

They were far from the caliber of defense the 49ers saw in this SB.

As for less talent lol now you're just BSing.

Better OL easily.
Better 2 TE set
Better defense.
WRs and CMC this year were better but not like Frank Gore behind that OL was a slouch and Crabtree and Moss weren't exactly trash.
And you had Kap arguably in his prime before people could study him.

Give this 49ers team Staley, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone and Davis as the OL and they're winning easily even vs the Chiefs D.

Outside of WR and maybe safety you can't say any part of the Ravens was better.

The Ravens dealt with injuries that whole year, but when healthy in the playoffs they shutdown the best offenses. Manning only scored 21 through double OT. Denver had 2 kick returns that game

It is Kyles fault his OL sucks. We all said it did before the season, but he still rolled with it. If the fans knew his OL sucks then there's no excuse for him. OL is the only advantage Harbaughs offense had over Kyles. Kyle thinks he can make it work with s**t OL so that's on him. Harbaugh probably had the better defense when healthy, but the defense he went into the SB with was banged up and sucked. His offense carried them all the way there

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Middling defense that beat multiple HOFers on the way to the SB? And Harbaugh still put up more yards and points in the SB than Kyle. With less talent. Stop with the excuses

Yes. 12th overall is middling. That defense also needed a prayer to beat Manning and the Broncos.

You are the one making 101 excuses for losing to the worst SB winner of the 21st century while hating a guy for losing to two dynasties.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The Ravens dealt with injuries that whole year, but when healthy in the playoffs they shutdown the best offenses. Manning only scored 21 through double OT. Denver had 2 kick returns that game

It is Kyles fault his OL sucks. We all said it did before the season, but he still rolled with it. If the fans knew his OL sucks then there's no excuse for him. OL is the only advantage Harbaughs offense had over Kyles. Kyle thinks he can make it work with s**t OL so that's on him. Harbaugh probably had the better defense when healthy, but the defense he went into the SB with was banged up and sucked. His offense carried them all the way there

Colin Kaepernick bailing out bad pass offense with his legs carried them there.