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Originally posted by Hysterikal:

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7:25 for alll the Kyle's an egomaniac folks

The post draft pressers, the one that happens after each day of the draft, I'm always watching their body language to see if they are still cool with one another. If there is any awkwardness perhaps due to heated arguments over who to draft. This interview shows they are still cool with one another.
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Once again OL and lack of pass protection will be the main driver behind the reasons this team will not win a SB. Book it I can guarantee it.

I just do not get this teams overthinking and outsmarting themselves strategy. I will never get it. This FO has gone from a great resurgence story for the 49ers franchise to a reoccurring repetitive nightmare. Their strategy is the definition of insanity. People forget Shanahan and lynch are not lifelong niner fans like we are, they are just current employees. They have both worked for or played for other franchises before here, and then will move onto other franchises after it doesn't work out here. They are not living and breathing for our first SB win in thirty years like we are. We are just another stop in their career for them to try out ideas like drafting a motherf**king WR in the first round when that is the absolute last position we need help at.

They will not win a SB until they change their strategy. Book it.

o an also stop using "well the shanahan tree is growing an his coaches get hired by other teams" as a measure of his success. What does that do for us? What has that gained the 49ers? How many trophies has that gotten us? Stupidest justification an attempt to deny reality Iv ever heard.

1. You don't have a crystal ball into the future so chill on the predictions

2. I have my issues with McKivitz and the lack of addressing the OT position but it was not the main issue on the OL of why we lost this recent SB. It was Burford who was the backup RG at that point. And another issue in that SB was actually related to the motherf*king WRs and their inability to beat press consistently.

3. Bill Walsh wasn't a 49ers fan either. Bill Belichick wasn't a Patriots fan. Their fandom has nothing to do with being good coaches/GMs. In fact you don't want that type of thinking because it leads to decisions of the heart vs the brain.

4. What has other teams hiring Kyle's staff gotten the 49ers? Multiple 3rd round comp picks.
Originally posted by thl408:
The post draft pressers, the one that happens after each day of the draft, I'm always watching their body language to see if they are still cool with one another. If there is any awkwardness perhaps due to heated arguments over who to draft. This interview shows they are still cool with one another.

Exactly this! I do the same thing 😂
Originally posted by niners94:
Kyle seems to think guys not getting open is more the problem than the line not blocking. I think it's more the blocking.

I doubt Kyle thinks that but unfortunately the draft doesn't let you grab whomever you want. Other teams are involved.

All we can hope for us that our picks are great ones for us and help us win games. I don't like the idea that we have nobody worth being excited about to push McKivitz and god forbit Trent gets hurt or retires there is nobody to take over for him.

At the same time as we said before the issue in the SB was at guard. Brock with his ability to get the ball out quick to go with lots of weapons who can get open quick would improve the ability to beat outside pressure - something Tom Brady excelled at. Interior pressure is the worst thing for a pocket passer.

I do hope somehow we can make a move whether before week 1 or towards the trade deadline...but not many teams are looking to move promising OTs.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
Once again OL and lack of pass protection will be the main driver behind the reasons this team will not win a SB. Book it I can guarantee it.

I just do not get this teams overthinking and outsmarting themselves strategy. I will never get it. This FO has gone from a great resurgence story for the 49ers franchise to a reoccurring repetitive nightmare. Their strategy is the definition of insanity. People forget Shanahan and lynch are not lifelong niner fans like we are, they are just current employees. They have both worked for or played for other franchises before here, and then will move onto other franchises after it doesn't work out here. They are not living and breathing for our first SB win in thirty years like we are. We are just another stop in their career for them to try out ideas like drafting a motherf**king WR in the first round when that is the absolute last position we need help at.

They will not win a SB until they change their strategy. Book it.

o an also stop using "well the shanahan tree is growing an his coaches get hired by other teams" as a measure of his success. What does that do for us? What has that gained the 49ers? How many trophies has that gotten us? Stupidest justification an attempt to deny reality Iv ever heard.

1. You don't have a crystal ball into the future so chill on the predictions

2. I have my issues with McKivitz and the lack of addressing the OT position but it was not the main issue on the OL of why we lost this recent SB. It was Burford who was the backup RG at that point. And another issue in that SB was actually related to the motherf*king WRs and their inability to beat press consistently.

3. Bill Walsh wasn't a 49ers fan either. Bill Belichick wasn't a Patriots fan. Their fandom has nothing to do with being good coaches/GMs. In fact you don't want that type of thinking because it leads to decisions of the heart vs the brain.

4. What has other teams hiring Kyle's staff gotten the 49ers? Multiple 3rd round comp picks.
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by thl408:
The post draft pressers, the one that happens after each day of the draft, I'm always watching their body language to see if they are still cool with one another. If there is any awkwardness perhaps due to heated arguments over who to draft. This interview shows they are still cool with one another.

Exactly this! I do the same thing 😂

Some day, we will 'hear' the body language say, "this mofo wanted to take another 3rd round RB", or, "this mofo wanted to take another 1st round DL".
Originally posted by thl408:

Some day, we will 'hear' the body language say, "this mofo wanted to take another 3rd round RB", or, "this mofo wanted to take another 1st round DL".

Still waiting on the tell all from the 2017 and 2021 drafts
Originally posted by northoakland510:
Kyle's philosophy of scheme fit over talent is getting played out. That works until the talent on the other side is all pro like Chris Jones. He has worked this line and Kyle still doesn't value the best talent when drafting o-line.

Belichick was notorious for using a small draft board which identified "Patriots types of players".

"Going back to my time in New England, they have a really small draft board," said Nagy. "I mean, it looks like a two-day old turkey. It's picked over. They don't have a lot of names up there. They draft for roles. There are specific roles on that board and once those are gone, what's the point of drafting a player if you don't think he's going to help you that year?"

He added: "A couple of other teams I was with -- much bigger boards. We're talking 75 players maybe in New England in a typical year when other teams have over 300. It varies by team, but when you're working with that small of a draft board you know who you want. You're really focused on those player and once they're gone, that's when you start making those moves."

For the record, Bill won 6 Superbowls.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:

Some day, we will 'hear' the body language say, "this mofo wanted to take another 3rd round RB", or, "this mofo wanted to take another 1st round DL".

Still waiting on the tell all from the 2017 and 2021 drafts

2017 is just them making rookie mistakes. 2021 is the real juicy one. I have a feeling Kyle really wanted Mac and public pressure got to him and he has regret trading up since the pick was made.
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:

Some day, we will 'hear' the body language say, "this mofo wanted to take another 3rd round RB", or, "this mofo wanted to take another 1st round DL".

Still waiting on the tell all from the 2017 and 2021 drafts

2017 is just them making rookie mistakes. 2021 is the real juicy one. I have a feeling Kyle really wanted Mac and public pressure got to him and he has regret trading up since the pick was made.

My understanding and I've heard this rumored is Lynch was into Mahomes and Kyle was more into maybe Cousins in next offseason. Not sure myself on that one. My feeling in 2021, having whiffed on Mahomes, and you hear Kyle talk about a guy like Josh Allen who can make you cover every blade of grass with his rocket arm and his run ability. So Lance was us crossing our fingers and hoping for our own Mahomes / Josh Allen. But I would like to be the fly on the wall for the 2021 process to hear who thought what, and so forth..
Originally posted by gold49digger:
2017 is just them making rookie mistakes. 2021 is the real juicy one. I have a feeling Kyle really wanted Mac and public pressure got to him and he has regret trading up since the pick was made.

Doubtful Kyle gave in to public pressure. Too much evidence before and since that shows he wouldn't be moved.

Now other people in on the decision making process?
"And so, what didn't we get better at? Hopefully, we will get better at offensive line. You saw it in the Super Bowl. You saw it toward the end of the season. That's the thing that's going to be a big difference maker, more so than even at receiver. I think that offensive line beats receiver as far as importance in what you have to have in the league."

- the words from Steve young himself. He may as well call out the FO for this years draft straight up. He is right here he's just beating around the bush. The writing is on the wall here an has been since our first SB against the chiefs when Chris jones and their DL walked right by our OL all game. This is like when everyone around you in your life sees your problems and wants you to address it but you stubbornly ignore it and pretend it's not there.

Hopefully it doesn't take much longer to get them to stop pretending.
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
"And so, what didn't we get better at? Hopefully, we will get better at offensive line. You saw it in the Super Bowl. You saw it toward the end of the season. That's the thing that's going to be a big difference maker, more so than even at receiver. I think that offensive line beats receiver as far as importance in what you have to have in the league."

- the words from Steve young himself. He may as well call out the FO for this years draft straight up. He is right here he's just beating around the bush. The writing is on the wall here an has been since our first SB against the chiefs when Chris jones and their DL walked right by our OL all game. This is like when everyone around you in your life sees your problems and wants you to address it but you stubbornly ignore it and pretend it's not there.

Hopefully it doesn't take much longer to get them to stop pretending.

Steve Young is my favorite player ever but he's not a scout or GM. It's not as simple as OL over WR.

49ers did address OL in this draft. 2 picks on the OL and a highly thought of UDFA as well.

Once again they went to the SB with that OL and lost it after the starting RG left the game 1/3 of the way through and the young backup made several key errors.

We all wanted OT addressed but improving the depth the interior should not be disregarded.

I feel like had we drafted Graham Barton in round 1 most would be thrilled. Well Puni is not that far behind Barton as a prospect. Both guys highly versatile.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
"And so, what didn't we get better at? Hopefully, we will get better at offensive line. You saw it in the Super Bowl. You saw it toward the end of the season. That's the thing that's going to be a big difference maker, more so than even at receiver. I think that offensive line beats receiver as far as importance in what you have to have in the league."

- the words from Steve young himself. He may as well call out the FO for this years draft straight up. He is right here he's just beating around the bush. The writing is on the wall here an has been since our first SB against the chiefs when Chris jones and their DL walked right by our OL all game. This is like when everyone around you in your life sees your problems and wants you to address it but you stubbornly ignore it and pretend it's not there.

Hopefully it doesn't take much longer to get them to stop pretending.

Steve Young is my favorite player ever but he's not a scout or GM. It's not as simple as OL over WR.

49ers did address OL in this draft. 2 picks on the OL and a highly thought of UDFA as well.

Once again they went to the SB with that OL and lost it after the starting RG left the game 1/3 of the way through and the young backup made several key errors.

We all wanted OT addressed but improving the depth the interior should not be disregarded.

I feel like had we drafted Graham Barton in round 1 most would be thrilled. Well Puni is not that far behind Barton as a prospect. Both guys highly versatile.

No guarantee that Barton will be better. It's silly to even grade this. draft other than they didn't do anything crazy. We have to wait and see how the players workout. Who was excited about Brock Purdy in 2022?
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
"And so, what didn't we get better at? Hopefully, we will get better at offensive line. You saw it in the Super Bowl. You saw it toward the end of the season. That's the thing that's going to be a big difference maker, more so than even at receiver. I think that offensive line beats receiver as far as importance in what you have to have in the league."

- the words from Steve young himself. He may as well call out the FO for this years draft straight up. He is right here he's just beating around the bush. The writing is on the wall here an has been since our first SB against the chiefs when Chris jones and their DL walked right by our OL all game. This is like when everyone around you in your life sees your problems and wants you to address it but you stubbornly ignore it and pretend it's not there.

Hopefully it doesn't take much longer to get them to stop pretending.

Steve Young is my favorite player ever but he's not a scout or GM. It's not as simple as OL over WR.

49ers did address OL in this draft. 2 picks on the OL and a highly thought of UDFA as well.

Once again they went to the SB with that OL and lost it after the starting RG left the game 1/3 of the way through and the young backup made several key errors.

We all wanted OT addressed but improving the depth the interior should not be disregarded.

I feel like had we drafted Graham Barton in round 1 most would be thrilled. Well Puni is not that far behind Barton as a prospect. Both guys highly versatile.

No guarantee that Barton will be better. It's silly to even grade this. draft other than they didn't do anything crazy. We have to wait and see how the players workout. Who was excited about Brock Purdy in 2022?

It's going to be real simple this season. Does Trent Williams stay healthy? Does mckivitz improve? If not does Puni get a shot and is he better? Oddly they are now talking about him as a guard....
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