49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
And they still wouldn't beat that Ravens team without a pass rush

They'd outscore em. Because they have a real offensive playcaller.

Out of their 4 SBs, they scored more than 34 points one time. Against a team that got a cakewalk to the SB. I doubt they could've scored 35 against that great Ravens defense

lol you're making yourself look like a clown with stuff like this..

They were 12th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed.

The Chiefs defense in 2019 was 7th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed. I'm sure I don't need to bring up the results from this last Chiefs team...it was clearly better than that "great Ravens defense"

Those almost 500 total yards you're so impressed with the Ravens gave up more yards than that two other times that season to the amazing 4-12 Eagles and the juggernaut 8-8 Cowboys.

Okay, very hot defense that was playing great

Don't i don't care how you try to frame it up we had no business losing that game.

We had the best OL in the game. A QB who nobody had answers for in part due to that OL and our ability to roll out a top notch 2 TE set where we could run the ball and throw it with great results. Yes the Smith bros were beat up, so were this year's 49ers. Most teams are playing with some sort of injury that late in the season it was no excuse for coming out as poorly as we did.

THAT is coaching. When the first play is an illegal formation that's inexcusable. Being down 28-6 to an inferior team is absurd. Got lucky to even get it close and still a terrible coaching move cost us the potential go ahead score.

And yet you want to complain about Shanahan losing a 10-0 lead in the 2nd quarter that lasted for a second all while ignoring the things you used to paint a rosier picture for Harbaugh's failure.

We definitely had business losing to a team that was beating HOFers when we were playing without a defense at that point

No...we didn't.

Manning and Brady are the most stationary QBs you can get. Kap was a whole other animal with that OL and Davis/Walker out there.

Brady and Manning being HOFers doesn't change a damn thing. The Pats didn't have a very good defense and Gronk wasn't out there. Vastly different offense without him out there.

Getting a lucky win vs Denver doesn't make them a great team. That HOF QB you keep referencing handed the game to them and his defense misplaying a hail mary allowed it to even get to that moment.

We had the better offense, we had the better defense. You can't say the same thing for the KC teams Kyle had to coach against. Chiefs either had the better offense(2019) or defense(2023) than us.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We definitely had business losing to a team that was beating HOFers when we were playing without a defense at that point

So in summation Kyle is a choker for losing to All time best ever HOF QBs but Harbaugh losing to an inferior team across the board is acceptable because that team beat some HOFers with injured rosters and the 9ers had injuries

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We definitely had business losing to a team that was beating HOFers when we were playing without a defense at that point

Also...wtf man

Yes Aldon and Justin were playing hurt but how can you type this out and expect to be taken seriously?

Patrick Willis
Navorro Bowman
Ahmad Brooks
Donte Whitner
Ray McDonald
Dashon Goldson
Isaac Sopoaga
Tarrell Brown
Carlos Rogers
Chris Culliver

These guys were out there on defense as well. There is at least 1 HOF in that group and should've been another had he not gotten injured. Aldon played every snap and Justin played 83% of them. Pretending the defense wasn't there at all is ridiculous.

Now does Harbaugh get the same heat for that poor performance that Kyle seem to get? Or we just picking and choosing which excuses are ok for Harbaugh but not for Kyle?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

And they still wouldn't beat that Ravens team without a pass rush

They'd outscore em. Because they have a real offensive playcaller.

Out of their 4 SBs, they scored more than 34 points one time. Against a team that got a cakewalk to the SB. I doubt they could've scored 35 against that great Ravens defense

lol you're making yourself look like a clown with stuff like this..

They were 12th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed.

The Chiefs defense in 2019 was 7th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed. I'm sure I don't need to bring up the results from this last Chiefs team...it was clearly better than that "great Ravens defense"

Those almost 500 total yards you're so impressed with the Ravens gave up more yards than that two other times that season to the amazing 4-12 Eagles and the juggernaut 8-8 Cowboys.

Okay, very hot defense that was playing great

Don't i don't care how you try to frame it up we had no business losing that game.

We had the best OL in the game. A QB who nobody had answers for in part due to that OL and our ability to roll out a top notch 2 TE set where we could run the ball and throw it with great results. Yes the Smith bros were beat up, so were this year's 49ers. Most teams are playing with some sort of injury that late in the season it was no excuse for coming out as poorly as we did.

THAT is coaching. When the first play is an illegal formation that's inexcusable. Being down 28-6 to an inferior team is absurd. Got lucky to even get it close and still a terrible coaching move cost us the potential go ahead score.

And yet you want to complain about Shanahan losing a 10-0 lead in the 2nd quarter that lasted for a second all while ignoring the things you used to paint a rosier picture for Harbaugh's failure.

We definitely had business losing to a team that was beating HOFers when we were playing without a defense at that point

No...we didn't.

Manning and Brady are the most stationary QBs you can get. Kap was a whole other animal with that OL and Davis/Walker out there.

Brady and Manning being HOFers doesn't change a damn thing. The Pats didn't have a very good defense and Gronk wasn't out there. Vastly different offense without him out there.

Getting a lucky win vs Denver doesn't make them a great team. That HOF QB you keep referencing handed the game to them and his defense misplaying a hail mary allowed it to even get to that moment.

We had the better offense, we had the better defense. You can't say the same thing for the KC teams Kyle had to coach against. Chiefs either had the better offense(2019) or defense(2023) than us.

Dude hitting a deep ball is nowhere near as lucky as getting two kick returns in one game. The luck was on Mannings side, and he still lost to that defense

Our defense was giving up 30 ppg in the playoffs. Our defense was based around our pass rush, which wasn't there in the playoffs. It's about who's the best team at the right time, and that was the Ravens

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Dude hitting a deep ball is nowhere near as lucky as getting two kick returns in one game. The luck was on Mannings side, and he still lost to that defense

Our defense was giving up 30 ppg in the playoffs. Our defense was based around our pass rush, which wasn't there in the playoffs. It's about who's the best team at the right time, and that was the Ravens

BUT of course that wasn't the Chiefs. Convenient

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Dude hitting a deep ball is nowhere near as lucky as getting two kick returns in one game. The luck was on Mannings side, and he still lost to that defense

Our defense was giving up 30 ppg in the playoffs. Our defense was based around our pass rush, which wasn't there in the playoffs. It's about who's the best team at the right time, and that was the Ravens

BUT of course that wasn't the Chiefs. Convenient

Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

The clear hottest team that was still a 5.5 pt underdog. But of course Vegas knows nothing.

So this is just going to continue to be a giant excuse fest for Harbaugh instead of holding both coaches to a similar standard. The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

The clear hottest team that was still a 5.5 pt underdog. But of course Vegas knows nothing.

So this is just going to continue to be a giant excuse fest for Harbaugh instead of holding both coaches to a similar standard. The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

Lol this

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

The clear hottest team that was still a 5.5 pt underdog. But of course Vegas knows nothing.

So this is just going to continue to be a giant excuse fest for Harbaugh instead of holding both coaches to a similar standard. The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

Vegas does get it wrong. In that case they were way wrong

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

The clear hottest team that was still a 5.5 pt underdog. But of course Vegas knows nothing.

So this is just going to continue to be a giant excuse fest for Harbaugh instead of holding both coaches to a similar standard. The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

Lol this

Vegas doesn't know how to handle teams that catch fire at the right time. What was the point spread in the 2007 SB?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

The clear hottest team that was still a 5.5 pt underdog. But of course Vegas knows nothing.

So this is just going to continue to be a giant excuse fest for Harbaugh instead of holding both coaches to a similar standard. The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

Lol this

Vegas doesn't know how to handle teams that catch fire at the right time. What was the point spread in the 2007 SB?

I was more referring to

The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

If you're gonna excuse JH you have to excuse KS. If you can't understand that there's not much else to be said.

I like JH, still do. But team wasn't prepared well for that game, and him getting abused every year by SEA was also bad.

Kyle is losing to an all time great QB and coach. He also took the team far into the playoffs with Jimmy G (lol) and made a 7th round pick into a household name. On top of that he built this roster from scratch. Also he doesn't act like a child and wears out his welcome after a couple of years and players don't turn on him.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

The clear hottest team that was still a 5.5 pt underdog. But of course Vegas knows nothing.

So this is just going to continue to be a giant excuse fest for Harbaugh instead of holding both coaches to a similar standard. The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

Lol this

Vegas doesn't know how to handle teams that catch fire at the right time. What was the point spread in the 2007 SB?

I was more referring to

The weak dynasty Chiefs can't hold a candle to those hot Ravens.

If you're gonna excuse JH you have to excuse KS. If you can't understand that there's not much else to be said.

I like JH, still do. But team wasn't prepared well for that game, and him getting abused every year by SEA was also bad.

Kyle is losing to an all time great QB and coach. He also took the team far into the playoffs with Jimmy G (lol) and made a 7th round pick into a household name. On top of that he built this roster from scratch. Also he doesn't act like a child and wears out his welcome after a couple of years and players don't turn on him.

Kyle has a healthy defense playing their asses off in these SBs and he's the smartest offensive mind in the game. He has a better QB and weapons than Harbaugh. I can somewhat excuse him for the first one because of Jimmy (shouldn't have stopped giving it to Deebo though), but not this last one. He's also blown so many playoff leads it's getting old

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Vegas does get it wrong. In that case they were way wrong

So are you going to argue the 9ers losing to the Chiefs were bigger chokes than the Patriots losing to the 07 Giants?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
And they still wouldn't beat that Ravens team without a pass rush

They'd outscore em. Because they have a real offensive playcaller.

Out of their 4 SBs, they scored more than 34 points one time. Against a team that got a cakewalk to the SB. I doubt they could've scored 35 against that great Ravens defense

lol you're making yourself look like a clown with stuff like this..

They were 12th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed.

The Chiefs defense in 2019 was 7th in points allowed and 17th in yards allowed. I'm sure I don't need to bring up the results from this last Chiefs team...it was clearly better than that "great Ravens defense"

Those almost 500 total yards you're so impressed with the Ravens gave up more yards than that two other times that season to the amazing 4-12 Eagles and the juggernaut 8-8 Cowboys.

Okay, very hot defense that was playing great

Don't i don't care how you try to frame it up we had no business losing that game.

We had the best OL in the game. A QB who nobody had answers for in part due to that OL and our ability to roll out a top notch 2 TE set where we could run the ball and throw it with great results. Yes the Smith bros were beat up, so were this year's 49ers. Most teams are playing with some sort of injury that late in the season it was no excuse for coming out as poorly as we did.

THAT is coaching. When the first play is an illegal formation that's inexcusable. Being down 28-6 to an inferior team is absurd. Got lucky to even get it close and still a terrible coaching move cost us the potential go ahead score.

And yet you want to complain about Shanahan losing a 10-0 lead in the 2nd quarter that lasted for a second all while ignoring the things you used to paint a rosier picture for Harbaugh's failure.

We definitely had business losing to a team that was beating HOFers when we were playing without a defense at that point

No...we didn't.

Manning and Brady are the most stationary QBs you can get. Kap was a whole other animal with that OL and Davis/Walker out there.

Brady and Manning being HOFers doesn't change a damn thing. The Pats didn't have a very good defense and Gronk wasn't out there. Vastly different offense without him out there.

Getting a lucky win vs Denver doesn't make them a great team. That HOF QB you keep referencing handed the game to them and his defense misplaying a hail mary allowed it to even get to that moment.

We had the better offense, we had the better defense. You can't say the same thing for the KC teams Kyle had to coach against. Chiefs either had the better offense(2019) or defense(2023) than us.

Dude hitting a deep ball is nowhere near as lucky as getting two kick returns in one game. The luck was on Mannings side, and he still lost to that defense

Our defense was giving up 30 ppg in the playoffs. Our defense was based around our pass rush, which wasn't there in the playoffs. It's about who's the best team at the right time, and that was the Ravens

Go back and watch that play. The awful performance by the Broncos defense on that TD is pathetic.

Awful angle by the safety, the pass rush giving him a chance at that completion. Special team return TDs are not common but there is still skill and ability involved and guys who have to block properly and as mentioned before it was still the Broncos possession. If anything they could've been better off not returning those and milking clock.

A defense misplaying a ball so badly on a 3rd down with under a minute left to play and holding a TD lead is absolutely fluke and stupid. Hell that whole play had so many awful breakdowns by Denver.



How you let the QB complete a pass when you have two defenders around him like that is crazy.



What's the safety doing here? You're protecting a TD lead. You cannot let this guy get behind you. Baltimore had no timeouts left. You did the one thing you can't do on that play.

And Packers and Atlanta both had excellent offenses. Certainly way more potent than the Ravens all year long.

We gave up 24 points to the Packers offense considering Kap threw a pick 6 on the first play of the game. The last TD GB got was a garbage TD with 57 seconds left.

We gave up 24 points to Atlanta who were playing at home and had at least 2 HOFers(since you love to throw that around so much) for Ryan to throw to.

And once again...the way our team was built was 100% a great matchup vs Baltimore.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Dude hitting a deep ball is nowhere near as lucky as getting two kick returns in one game. The luck was on Mannings side, and he still lost to that defense

Our defense was giving up 30 ppg in the playoffs. Our defense was based around our pass rush, which wasn't there in the playoffs. It's about who's the best team at the right time, and that was the Ravens

BUT of course that wasn't the Chiefs. Convenient

Not the clear hottest team like the Ravens. They got themselves in holes every playoff game. We were also playing with a healthy defense, and still lost

lol what are you talking about?

Smoked the Dolphins. Took our the Bills and the Ravens, two teams who most 100% felt were better chances to find their way to the SB than GB and even Detroit. All year long we heard about how the AFC was the more talented conference.

KC taking out Mike McDaniels coached offense which was 2nd in the NFL in scoring and 1st in yardage - no big deal
KC taking out Josh Allen and the Bills at their house in January - no big deal
KC taking out the best record in the league and #1 defense in the league with the MVP QB - not hot enough.

Ravens taking out rookie Andrew Luck and the Colts - hot
Ravens beating Peyton Manning with crazy luck and old man handing them the win in OT - HOT
Ravens beating Pats with a weak defense and no Gronk or Julian Edelman - HOTTEST!

Just be honest with yourself man.

Also...we were playing with a healthy D?

No Hufanga. Brown hurt late. Greenlaw hurt early. Armstead playing on a bad knee. Hargrave dealing with an injury. Ward I believe had a core injury as well he was dealing with...but yes outside of that we were totally healthy unlike 2012 when Aldon Smith played every snap and Justin Smith played 83% of them.