49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Straight from Kyle himself. He regrets passing on 2nd down after the Julio catch. Looks like he agrees with me, bad call

Kyle Shanahan Regrets 28-3 Super Bowl

Of course he regrets it because nobody was open on it and he knows the outcome was a sack. Unlike the plays you and others like to b***h about from the KC SBs that WERE open but either not blocked right or the ball didn't get thrown to the right guy, or Chris Jones got his stupid ass arms in the way.

Also did you actually listen to what Kyle said? Or just saw the headline and ran in here like some crowning achievement?

QBs, especially the league MVP should be good enough not to make a bad play worse. Matt Ryan pissed himself late in that game. Taking that sack, fumbling on an earlier drive just doing things that you can't do if you want to win the game but yet you're here blaming the play call on 1 down. Does that honestly compute in your brain? That a 28-3 blown game came down to one run vs pass playcall on a 2nd down?

Matt Ryan pissed himself late in a SB. What a shocker. Kyle was the one that allowed it

He did? Kyle turned the dude into league MVP but apparently you think he told Ryan "if it's not open take a sack for a 10 yard loss" on the play in question?

Originally posted by genus49:

He did? Kyle turned the dude into league MVP but apparently you think he told Ryan "if it's not open take a sack for a 10 yard loss" on the play in question?

Obviously not, but the possibility was there. He regrets his decision for a reason. He'd have a ring if he made the right decision there

Originally posted by genus49:
Once again...Mike McCarthy won a SB. So he's not a choker?

What do you call going 12-5 and losing at home to the 49ers in a game that wasn't as close as it should've been?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing to that same 49ers team by only scoring 12 points and losing to a rookie QB?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing by 16 to the 7th seed and one of the youngest teams in the league in a game that was 27-7 at the half(and should've been 27-0)

And that's just with Dallas...let's look at GB after he won the SB

1 and done as a 15-1 team losing by 17 to the Giants at home
Got crushed by us with Kap's monster game
1 and done, lost at home to us
Lost as a 12-4 team in the NFCCG with Russell Wilson throwing for 4 picks in that game. One of Mike's crowning achievements as a non choker.
Lost in the divisional round to Arizona
Lost by 23 to the Falcons...weird Kyle decided not to choke that one vs a mighty SB winner.
Didn't make playoffs
Fired

Quite the awe inspiring resume from a SB winning HC who clearly cannot be labeled a choker because he had a nobody like Aaron Rodgers he won a SB with 14 years ago.

And after all that, he's got something kyle doesn't have. Kind of like when charles barkley and shaq were arguing on TNT and shaq shut down the conversation with "You don't have a ring chuck". And chuck shut the hell up, cause thats all that matters. Its just painful when a guy who has the ring drops that on the guy who doesn't.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
He did? Kyle turned the dude into league MVP but apparently you think he told Ryan "if it's not open take a sack for a 10 yard loss" on the play in question?

Obviously not, but the possibility was there. He regrets his decision for a reason. He'd have a ring if he made the right decision there

Once again he regrets the decision because it was a poor pass play that was covered. Not that it was a pass vs run play. If you actually listened to the clip he talks he's never going to be a run run pass guy. It's more involved for him and it makes perfect sense.

Now we've seen him what happens if the run is working, he stays with it - just look at the Vikings and Packers games in 2019.

The QB who is league MVP should be counted on to not make a bad play call worse. And once again you have no clue what happens if he just runs it on that down. A fumble is possible, they were averaging like a yard per run in that 2nd half. But we know that Atlanta would've won the game if they actually got a stop on defense. Which is why blaming Kyle for that loss is beyond stupid. Yes there is blame but putting the whole thing on him is just dumb.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by genus49:
Once again...Mike McCarthy won a SB. So he's not a choker?

What do you call going 12-5 and losing at home to the 49ers in a game that wasn't as close as it should've been?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing to that same 49ers team by only scoring 12 points and losing to a rookie QB?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing by 16 to the 7th seed and one of the youngest teams in the league in a game that was 27-7 at the half(and should've been 27-0)

And that's just with Dallas...let's look at GB after he won the SB

1 and done as a 15-1 team losing by 17 to the Giants at home
Got crushed by us with Kap's monster game
1 and done, lost at home to us
Lost as a 12-4 team in the NFCCG with Russell Wilson throwing for 4 picks in that game. One of Mike's crowning achievements as a non choker.
Lost in the divisional round to Arizona
Lost by 23 to the Falcons...weird Kyle decided not to choke that one vs a mighty SB winner.
Didn't make playoffs
Fired

Quite the awe inspiring resume from a SB winning HC who clearly cannot be labeled a choker because he had a nobody like Aaron Rodgers he won a SB with 14 years ago.

And after all that, he's got something kyle doesn't have. Kind of like when charles barkley and shaq were arguing on TNT and shaq shut down the conversation with "You don't have a ring chuck". And chuck shut the hell up, cause thats all that matters. Its just painful when a guy who has the ring drops that on the guy who doesn't.

You should've started with this argument, then we could all say "Yah I would take McCarthy over Shanahan".

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by genus49:
Once again...Mike McCarthy won a SB. So he's not a choker?

What do you call going 12-5 and losing at home to the 49ers in a game that wasn't as close as it should've been?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing to that same 49ers team by only scoring 12 points and losing to a rookie QB?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing by 16 to the 7th seed and one of the youngest teams in the league in a game that was 27-7 at the half(and should've been 27-0)

And that's just with Dallas...let's look at GB after he won the SB

1 and done as a 15-1 team losing by 17 to the Giants at home
Got crushed by us with Kap's monster game
1 and done, lost at home to us
Lost as a 12-4 team in the NFCCG with Russell Wilson throwing for 4 picks in that game. One of Mike's crowning achievements as a non choker.
Lost in the divisional round to Arizona
Lost by 23 to the Falcons...weird Kyle decided not to choke that one vs a mighty SB winner.
Didn't make playoffs
Fired

Quite the awe inspiring resume from a SB winning HC who clearly cannot be labeled a choker because he had a nobody like Aaron Rodgers he won a SB with 14 years ago.

And after all that, he's got something kyle doesn't have. Kind of like when charles barkley and shaq were arguing on TNT and shaq shut down the conversation with "You don't have a ring chuck". And chuck shut the hell up, cause thats all that matters. Its just painful when a guy who has the ring drops that on the guy who doesn't.

Mike McCarthy was 47 when he won a SB. Kyle Shanahan is 44. Now if Kyle doesn't win in the next 3 years then you can come back and act like McCarthy is somehow better.

For your analogy it took Shaq 8 years to win his first ring. Kyle is heading into his 8th season as a HC, let's see how he does. Shaq also had some guy named Kobe Bryant around to help him win a ring but that's a different conversation. As for Charles he had 16 seasons to not win a ring. Kyle still has time as I mentioned above.

Do you need me to bring up Andy Reid and how long it took him?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by genus49:
Once again...Mike McCarthy won a SB. So he's not a choker?

What do you call going 12-5 and losing at home to the 49ers in a game that wasn't as close as it should've been?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing to that same 49ers team by only scoring 12 points and losing to a rookie QB?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing by 16 to the 7th seed and one of the youngest teams in the league in a game that was 27-7 at the half(and should've been 27-0)

And that's just with Dallas...let's look at GB after he won the SB

1 and done as a 15-1 team losing by 17 to the Giants at home
Got crushed by us with Kap's monster game
1 and done, lost at home to us
Lost as a 12-4 team in the NFCCG with Russell Wilson throwing for 4 picks in that game. One of Mike's crowning achievements as a non choker.
Lost in the divisional round to Arizona
Lost by 23 to the Falcons...weird Kyle decided not to choke that one vs a mighty SB winner.
Didn't make playoffs
Fired

Quite the awe inspiring resume from a SB winning HC who clearly cannot be labeled a choker because he had a nobody like Aaron Rodgers he won a SB with 14 years ago.

And after all that, he's got something kyle doesn't have. Kind of like when charles barkley and shaq were arguing on TNT and shaq shut down the conversation with "You don't have a ring chuck". And chuck shut the hell up, cause thats all that matters. Its just painful when a guy who has the ring drops that on the guy who doesn't.

Mike McCarthy was 47 when he won a SB. Kyle Shanahan is 44. Now if Kyle doesn't win in the next 3 years then you can come back and act like McCarthy is somehow better.

For your analogy it took Shaq 8 years to win his first ring. Kyle is heading into his 8th season as a HC, let's see how he does. Shaq also had some guy named Kobe Bryant around to help him win a ring but that's a different conversation. As for Charles he had 16 seasons to not win a ring. Kyle still has time as I mentioned above.

Do you need me to bring up Andy Reid and how long it took him?

The Shaq and Charles Barkley comparison is stupid cause Shaq has won multiple rings with LA. It just goes to show, it had more to do with Aaron Rodgers and Dom Capers more than it did McCarthy. And Dom Capers was by far a better DC than Steve Wilks.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by genus49:
Once again...Mike McCarthy won a SB. So he's not a choker?

What do you call going 12-5 and losing at home to the 49ers in a game that wasn't as close as it should've been?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing to that same 49ers team by only scoring 12 points and losing to a rookie QB?
What do you call going 12-5 and losing by 16 to the 7th seed and one of the youngest teams in the league in a game that was 27-7 at the half(and should've been 27-0)

And that's just with Dallas...let's look at GB after he won the SB

1 and done as a 15-1 team losing by 17 to the Giants at home
Got crushed by us with Kap's monster game
1 and done, lost at home to us
Lost as a 12-4 team in the NFCCG with Russell Wilson throwing for 4 picks in that game. One of Mike's crowning achievements as a non choker.
Lost in the divisional round to Arizona
Lost by 23 to the Falcons...weird Kyle decided not to choke that one vs a mighty SB winner.
Didn't make playoffs
Fired

Quite the awe inspiring resume from a SB winning HC who clearly cannot be labeled a choker because he had a nobody like Aaron Rodgers he won a SB with 14 years ago.

And after all that, he's got something kyle doesn't have. Kind of like when charles barkley and shaq were arguing on TNT and shaq shut down the conversation with "You don't have a ring chuck". And chuck shut the hell up, cause thats all that matters. Its just painful when a guy who has the ring drops that on the guy who doesn't.

Mike McCarthy was 47 when he won a SB. Kyle Shanahan is 44. Now if Kyle doesn't win in the next 3 years then you can come back and act like McCarthy is somehow better.

For your analogy it took Shaq 8 years to win his first ring. Kyle is heading into his 8th season as a HC, let's see how he does. Shaq also had some guy named Kobe Bryant around to help him win a ring but that's a different conversation. As for Charles he had 16 seasons to not win a ring. Kyle still has time as I mentioned above.

Do you need me to bring up Andy Reid and how long it took him?

The Shaq and Charles Barkley comparison is stupid cause Shaq has won multiple rings with LA. It just goes to show, it had more to do with Aaron Rodgers and Dom Capers more than it did McCarthy. And Dom Capers was by far a better DC than Steve Wilks.

Yup...not to mention they even got lucky getting to the big dance got to play a Chicago team where Caleb Hanie got to play the 2nd half of the game and they still needed a BJ Raji pick 6(wonder what the prop bet on that to happen was) to win by a TD.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle for some reason in Superbowls goes defensive exactly the time he should go offensive.

I think good D-coordinators can pick up his in-game playcalling tendencies. (I.e. his tendency to throw in pressure situations)

I think defenses are giving him *looks* that they know will play to his tendencies in playcalling. I.e. they will give him 8 man fronts in nickel situations and he'll want to pass it to beat that defense as a playcaller, when the defense is really playing the pass (for example).

I think Jim Shorts has a 100% win game streak on Kyle because Jim runs the wide-9 and gives Kyle those false looks to bait him into throwing.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle for some reason in Superbowls goes defensive exactly the time he should go offensive.

you hire Belichick and keep Kyle, and when it gets down to business in the SB, you tag team BB in

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
He did? Kyle turned the dude into league MVP but apparently you think he told Ryan "if it's not open take a sack for a 10 yard loss" on the play in question?

Obviously not, but the possibility was there. He regrets his decision for a reason. He'd have a ring if he made the right decision there

He regrets it because it didn't work. I've never heard a coach say he regrets a play that worked.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

He did? Kyle turned the dude into league MVP but apparently you think he told Ryan "if it's not open take a sack for a 10 yard loss" on the play in question?

Obviously not, but the possibility was there. He regrets his decision for a reason. He'd have a ring if he made the right decision there

He regrets it because it didn't work. I've never heard a coach say he regrets a play that worked.

There was no need to make it work. He could have kneeled 3 straight times there and Falcons win

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
There was no need to make it work. He could have kneeled 3 straight times there and Falcons win

i don't fault him on that one, Julio just made an all time catch. Ryan was MVP. lean into your stars, ask them to win you the game. recall in 2012, Brady went into no huddle mode vs the 49ers, after we were up 28. A 28 point lead, gone in a blink, and that was a badass 49er D. He just hits passes on you so quick, drive after drive, and you are huffing and puffing. That's why ATL lost. that and Freeman.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

There was no need to make it work. He could have kneeled 3 straight times there and Falcons win

i don't fault him on that one, Julio just made an all time catch. Ryan was MVP. lean into your stars, ask them to win you the game. recall in 2012, Brady went into no huddle mode vs the 49ers, after we were up 28. A 28 point lead, gone in a blink, and that was a badass 49er D. He just hits passes on you so quick, drive after drive, and you are huffing and puffing. That's why ATL lost. that and Freeman.

Julio just made an all time catch. That was it. His players did it. I think everyone watching thought it was over after that catch. Just kneel 3 times

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Julio just made an all time catch. That was it. His players did it. I think everyone watching thought it was over after that catch. Just kneel 3 times

ok you kneel 3 times and your kicker shanks it, now what happens?