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Kyle is a good coach. Give him prime Tom Brady or Mahomes and it's superbowl victory every year!
Originally posted by picklejuice:
Kyle is a good coach. Give him prime Tom Brady or Mahomes and it's superbowl victory every year!

amen brother, this is why Brock's offseason and improvement probably is the top 49er storyline
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
Kyle is a good coach. Give him prime Tom Brady or Mahomes and it's superbowl victory every year!

amen brother, this is why Brock's offseason and improvement probably is the top 49er storyline

Im mainly hoping to see our defense become more stout - specifically in the run game and third downs. The stats last year for this defense was a little deceiving. We were scoring so many points that a lot of teams had to abandon the run but when we really needed to stop it, we mightily struggled with it. Same with stopping teams on third downs, didn't matter if it was third and long or not, we gave up way too many.

I expect Brock to be sharper and more decisive but if we can get back our rock solid, dependable defensive performance - it'll be a beautiful thing.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
You come across like such an entitled child. World doesn't revolve just around you, princess.

Word

I blocked him. I think he's the only person in here I've done that with but it was a great move. lol I don't mind having differing perspectives than some on here, that's normal, but his input is just worthless. Lol

Different opinions are fine, even if you don't like Kyle, ok so be it. But when you spam the same s**t every single day for the past 3 months then it becomes really weird and probably looking into therapy might be good.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Different opinions are fine, even if you don't like Kyle, ok so be it. But when you spam the same s**t every single day for the past 3 months then it becomes really weird and probably looking into therapy might be good.

The other part is the constant negativity. Just spamming super negative stuff over and over again - why even follow the team if it makes you feel so negative all the time, you know?

Only thing I will come in here and say is "I love Brock!" In the Brock thread once a week or so. Lol but it's not a constant Debbie downer. I also can admit to when he doesn't play well or where he needs to get better. In other words, I wish guys like him were more constructive in what they post.
Originally posted by picklejuice:
Kyle is a good coach. Give him prime Tom Brady or Mahomes and it's superbowl victory every year!

Lol not really
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Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle has a window of about 2 maybe 3 years to win a Superbowl and then the Niners will start falling away as this group of core players gets older, demands more money and their production starts to decline. Sure we might still make the play offs but we have a 2-3 year period now where we are at our zenith. If Kyle don't win one now, he could go to his grave without ever taking a team to Superbowl glory.

Last year homey. The core ends. Trent gone. Deebo gone. Aiyuk Kittle who knows. CMC probably down to one knee by years end.

After this year we start retooling. Who wants to retool with a 2 time Super Bowl loser ? ( mediocre fans raise their hands with glee )

ShanaLynch has drafted an average of about one all-pro player every draft since 2017 (except for the last two drafts) we'll see if that average holds this season. Assuming it does - we have two+ all-pro players already on the team that nobody knows anything about.

The draft is key to keeping that Superbowl window open. Draft well, and it will stay open for a foreseeable future.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
Kyle is a good coach. Give him prime Tom Brady or Mahomes and it's superbowl victory every year!

amen brother, this is why Brock's offseason and improvement probably is the top 49er storyline

Im mainly hoping to see our defense become more stout - specifically in the run game and third downs. The stats last year for this defense was a little deceiving. We were scoring so many points that a lot of teams had to abandon the run but when we really needed to stop it, we mightily struggled with it. Same with stopping teams on third downs, didn't matter if it was third and long or not, we gave up way too many.

I expect Brock to be sharper and more decisive but if we can get back our rock solid, dependable defensive performance - it'll be a beautiful thing.

We were missing that two-gapper Red Bryant-esque DLineman against the run last year. I think Wilks (being mainly a DB coach) and not understanding the Pete Carroll defensive line play - didn't see a need for that kind of player on base run downs.

A strong Two Gapping DT (a la Stubblefield/Young or Michael Carter, Sopoaga) forces teams to go sideways on the run and allows the 49ers team speed to string out the run and allows the sideline to be (in a sense) the 12th man that "tackles" the ball carrier by forcing the ball carrier put of bounds.
Wilks was an old man set in his ways..lol. He seemed uncomfortable when more-or different things- were asked from him. I am not sure why they picked him in the first place. Not that he was a total dud but damn, run plays made me clinch teeth. You got to be able to adjust and flourish, as a player or a coach.
[ Edited by Montana on Jun 1, 2024 at 3:04 PM ]
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
Kyle is a good coach. Give him prime Tom Brady or Mahomes and it's superbowl victory every year!

Lol not really

ok fine then.... every other year and maybe the occasional back-to-back because even the KD warriors couldn't three peat
Originally posted by picklejuice:
ok fine then.... every other year and maybe the occasional back-to-back because even the KD warriors couldn't three peat
I just want him to win once at some point
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Originally posted by Montana:
Wilks was an old man set in his ways..lol. He seemed uncomfortable when more-or different things- were asked from him. I am not sure why they picked him in the first place. Not that he was a total dud but damn, run plays made me clinch teeth. You got to be able to adjust and flourish, as a player or a coach.

He likes to blitz and I think Kyle wanted more of that stuff. Stuff that Spagnuolo and Baltimore do.
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Montana:
Wilks was an old man set in his ways..lol. He seemed uncomfortable when more-or different things- were asked from him. I am not sure why they picked him in the first place. Not that he was a total dud but damn, run plays made me clinch teeth. You got to be able to adjust and flourish, as a player or a coach.

He likes to blitz and I think Kyle wanted more of that stuff. Stuff that Spagnuolo and Baltimore do.

I'd have settled for what Saleh and Ryans did. Was such a disappointment to finally have a QB and offense to match those dominant defenses and instead got whatever he was trying to do. He was clearly in over his head from opening day, and came as no surprise that moving him down to the sidelines made no difference.
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Originally posted by Cosmo:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Montana:
Wilks was an old man set in his ways..lol. He seemed uncomfortable when more-or different things- were asked from him. I am not sure why they picked him in the first place. Not that he was a total dud but damn, run plays made me clinch teeth. You got to be able to adjust and flourish, as a player or a coach.

He likes to blitz and I think Kyle wanted more of that stuff. Stuff that Spagnuolo and Baltimore do.

I'd have settled for what Saleh and Ryans did. Was such a disappointment to finally have a QB and offense to match those dominant defenses and instead got whatever he was trying to do. He was clearly in over his head from opening day, and came as no surprise that moving him down to the sidelines made no difference.

I think they were hoping for that compensatory pick for Wilks - gambling that Kyle could teach him the Pete Carroll defense. But that 4-3 under defense is not as easy to teach - if you haven't been in it on the defensive side and have the experience in coaching/playing in it. (Add in the fact that **No one** to my knowledge in the history of the NFL has ever married the Wide 9 to Pete's Cover 3 pattern matching zone coverages.) It's a unique Kyle defensive creation in my opinion.

Kyle is a great coach, and while he knows its a great defensive scheme - he lacks the long term experience in coaching it against all sorts of offensive systems like a Demeco or Sala, to be able to teach it to Wilks.

Its like Bill Belichick trying to coach the offense. Bill has stopped so many offenses with his defensive systems, but when it comes to offense - as great a defensive coach he is - offensively he's a mediocre offensive coach.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Cosmo:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Montana:
Wilks was an old man set in his ways..lol. He seemed uncomfortable when more-or different things- were asked from him. I am not sure why they picked him in the first place. Not that he was a total dud but damn, run plays made me clinch teeth. You got to be able to adjust and flourish, as a player or a coach.

He likes to blitz and I think Kyle wanted more of that stuff. Stuff that Spagnuolo and Baltimore do.

I'd have settled for what Saleh and Ryans did. Was such a disappointment to finally have a QB and offense to match those dominant defenses and instead got whatever he was trying to do. He was clearly in over his head from opening day, and came as no surprise that moving him down to the sidelines made no difference.

I think they were hoping for that compensatory pick for Wilks - gambling that Kyle could teach him the Pete Carroll defense. But that 4-3 under defense is not as easy to teach - if you haven't been in it on the defensive side and have the experience in coaching/playing in it. (Add in the fact that **No one** to my knowledge in the history of the NFL has ever married the Wide 9 to Pete's Cover 3 pattern matching zone coverages.) It's a unique Kyle defensive creation in my opinion.

Kyle is a great coach, and while he knows its a great defensive scheme - he lacks the long term experience in coaching it against all sorts of offensive systems like a Demeco or Sala, to be able to teach it to Wilks.

Its like Bill Belichick trying to coach the offense. Bill has stopped so many offenses with his defensive systems, but when it comes to offense - as great a defensive coach he is - offensively he's a mediocre offensive coach.
lol, oh you know what Kyle lacks in huh ridiculous
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