49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
No argument from me about the merits of either of those coaches. But having a young coach who could be here for over a decade giving us consistent competitive football and hopefully a few rings is a pretty damn good. Firing that for the greatest coach of all time who was an okay to s**t GM and he would want to keep that hat and didn't do much winning when the greatest QB of all time wasnt behind center for him anymore. And you'd hire that for what 2-4 years til he retires. I just struggle to understand how that without a guaranteed Super Bowl is somehow a more alluring future. I understand some of the frustration with Kyle I do but ultimately I take those cause I truly believe he will be a Super Bowl winning coach sooner rather than later.

You can make the argument for the allure of Bill. Pete has basically been a middling coach without a Pro Bowl level QB. Kyle went to a SB with a middling QB. I'd much rather have Kyle going forward for Brocks development.

Yeah among the young coaches McVay, Shanny, LeFleur and McDaniels I would rather have Shanny. Though that young guy down in Houston seems to have something special brewin

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he looked crazy good and i suspect they will be a hot or trendy SB pick, want to see more from those guys before i crown em as a top contender, and it's hard to put Ryans after a season in the same convo as Kyle, McVay, Harbaugh, Reid, and others..

Agreed on the wait and see how good they actually are thought. They play in a pretty weak division though so they should be in the playoffs.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
looking at coach and QB, these are the contenders as we look to 2024
Top Teams

Baltimore (Harbaugh and Lamar)
KC (Reid and Mahomes)
Chargers (Harbaugh and Herbert)
Lions (MCDC and Goff)
Packers (LaFleur and Love)
49ers (Shanny and Brock)
Rams (McVay and Stafford)

I imagine the SB will come from the above
honorable mention Jets, Texans, Jags, Cowboys, Eagles

You got off the Dolphins!

Bills prob should be in there in spite of the roster changes.

yessir, MIA it wasn't meant to be, I was attracted to the pairing of boy wonder with Fangio, not quite sure what happened there, and Fangio is now in Philly..
if we look at MIA thru the lens of HC and QB, I don't really like Tua as elite and the team didn't show up in cold weather, they wanted no part of the playoff game that reflects badly on the HC. They lost their star DT also. I can't add Bills as McDermott just isn't on the Harbaugh, Reid, McVay, Shanny level, and that's why they don't win, despite having Josh Allen.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Montana:
I mean ya got a point, Kyle did help Jimmy get to the SB..on the Raiders, he dwindled..though, there were coach issues and such..the whole organization was a mess lol. But still, Jimmy looked lost on the Raiders, completely.

Ravens won a SB with Trent Dilfer at QB.

But I do see your point, Kyle has an incredible system. He has been in it his whole life due to his dad. He just has to have the stars line up for everything to work out.

Talent evaluation for his system, and then situational football. Once he learns how to close the show the sky will be the limit.

The Chiefs needed an Achilles to rupture, the best RB in the league to fumble, a punt to bounce off a players toe and a questionable decision in OT to win. They needed the stars to line up to steal that game away.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yessir, MIA it wasn't meant to be, I was attracted to the pairing of boy wonder with Fangio, not quite sure what happened there, and Fangio is now in Philly..
if we look at MIA thru the lens of HC and QB, I don't really like Tua as elite and the team didn't show up in cold weather, they wanted no part of the playoff game that reflects badly on the HC. They lost their star DT also. I can't add Bills as McDermott just isn't on the Harbaugh, Reid, McVay, Shanny level, and that's why they don't win, despite having Josh Allen.

I think Miami is on Detroit's level at least… but they play in the better conference. Goff certainly isn't anywhere near an elite QB… though they have a very good offense. I also think McDermott is a fine coach at worst. Team has trouble staying healthy.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We are the opposite of the Bill Walsh 80's 49ers. Back then our offense seemed almost automatic at the end of games and in those situations.

Andy Reid had his team coached up and ready to go when it turned into situational football. Reid wasn't drinking during the O.T rules meeting with the officials LOL.

Andy is also about 4 to 8-ish years to retirement. Kyle's 22 years younger than Reid and Reid needs overtime (same with Bill Belichick) to beat Kyle.

Andy beat him twice, didn't need overtime the first time. But he did have to come from behind to beat Kyle both times, so I guess thats how the Bengals fans feel about Bill Walsh; "HE had to come from behind to beat us in the super bowl, so we are great too!". What does age have to do with anything from a coaching standpoint?

The Rams coach is only 38 years old and he has already won a super bowl. And he had to do it at the end of the game in come back fashion. Now I believe that game was rigged but hey, he won the super bowl LOL.

Age is a big factor favoring Kyle vs Reid and Bellichick. Bill Bellichick didn't even get to his first superbowl until age 49. Reid didn't get to his first superbowl till age 49, and guess what - he lost that game.

Kyle's been to three superbowls, and he's *still* 4 years younger that both coaches currently when compared to their (Reid and Bellichick's) ages when they reached their respective *first* superbowls.

P.s. Bill Walsh didn't get to his first superbowl till age 50.

See; Sean McVay & Mike Tomlin.

They both won it at 36 years old.

Walsh got his first HC job at 47, so he got right to it.

Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Tomlin is certainly an accomplished coach but he will have his work cut out for him. if he makes it work with these QBs he may just be COY

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
looking at coach and QB, these are the contenders as we look to 2024
Top Teams

Baltimore (Harbaugh and Lamar)
KC (Reid and Mahomes)
Chargers (Harbaugh and Herbert)
Lions (MCDC and Goff)
Packers (LaFleur and Love)
49ers (Shanny and Brock)
Rams (McVay and Stafford)

I imagine the SB will come from the above
honorable mention Jets, Texans, Jags, Cowboys, Eagles

I'm hoping we face Jim and the Chargers in the Superbowl.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Tomlin is certainly an accomplished coach but he will have his work cut out for him. if he makes it work with these QBs he may just be COY

Agree 💯% that Tomlin is a good coach. But I think offensive minded head coaches have dominated the NFL recently. His QBs aren't top tier anymore in my opinion. He's never been able to replace Big Ben either. Same with Bellichick and Brady. Good luck to Sean once Stafford retires. Heh.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
looking at coach and QB, these are the contenders as we look to 2024
Top Teams

Baltimore (Harbaugh and Lamar)
KC (Reid and Mahomes)
Chargers (Harbaugh and Herbert)
Lions (MCDC and Goff)
Packers (LaFleur and Love)
49ers (Shanny and Brock)
Rams (McVay and Stafford)

I imagine the SB will come from the above
honorable mention Jets, Texans, Jags, Cowboys, Eagles

I'm hoping we fact Jim and the Chargers in the Superbowl.

We have a pretty good chance of facing a former coach from the 49ers in the superb owl. Since Shanny has produced 3 HCs in the AFC and Jim's back in the NFL. 1/4 the AFC is a former Niner coaches.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
No argument from me about the merits of either of those coaches. But having a young coach who could be here for over a decade giving us consistent competitive football and hopefully a few rings is a pretty damn good. Firing that for the greatest coach of all time who was an okay to s**t GM and he would want to keep that hat and didn't do much winning when the greatest QB of all time wasnt behind center for him anymore. And you'd hire that for what 2-4 years til he retires. I just struggle to understand how that without a guaranteed Super Bowl is somehow a more alluring future. I understand some of the frustration with Kyle I do but ultimately I take those cause I truly believe he will be a Super Bowl winning coach sooner rather than later.

You can make the argument for the allure of Bill. Pete has basically been a middling coach without a Pro Bowl level QB. Kyle went to a SB with a middling QB. I'd much rather have Kyle going forward for Brocks development.

Yeah among the young coaches McVay, Shanny, LeFleur and McDaniels I would rather have Shanny. Though that young guy down in Houston seems to have something special brewin

I can't stand Pete Carroll, but I'd say he did more with less after Wilson left. The team was actually better. BB did less with less and then some. I'll pass on old Bill

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
No argument from me about the merits of either of those coaches. But having a young coach who could be here for over a decade giving us consistent competitive football and hopefully a few rings is a pretty damn good. Firing that for the greatest coach of all time who was an okay to s**t GM and he would want to keep that hat and didn't do much winning when the greatest QB of all time wasnt behind center for him anymore. And you'd hire that for what 2-4 years til he retires. I just struggle to understand how that without a guaranteed Super Bowl is somehow a more alluring future. I understand some of the frustration with Kyle I do but ultimately I take those cause I truly believe he will be a Super Bowl winning coach sooner rather than later.

You can make the argument for the allure of Bill. Pete has basically been a middling coach without a Pro Bowl level QB. Kyle went to a SB with a middling QB. I'd much rather have Kyle going forward for Brocks development.

Yeah among the young coaches McVay, Shanny, LeFleur and McDaniels I would rather have Shanny. Though that young guy down in Houston seems to have something special brewin

I can't stand Pete Carroll, but I'd say he did more with less after Wilson left. The team was actually better. BB did less with less and then some. I'll pass on old Bill

Not a bad argument

Originally posted by Silky:
I can't stand Pete Carroll, but I'd say he did more with less after Wilson left. The team was actually better. BB did less with less and then some. I'll pass on old Bill

You mean they were better for one season from 21-22? They were certainly better nearly every year prior to that 7-10 year.

Whoever we face in the Superbowl, Kyle gotta find a way to get rid of his curse.

detroit is actually a good team.

aldon smith can stay sober.

jim harbaugh can win a championship.

trent baalke is still GM.

kyle can win superbowl for 49ers someday.