Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
It's fact. Not talk out of my ass. Start with the simple so you can understand it. Overtime decision. Stupid move. Not knowing the rules is not an excuse it's an admission of not being prepared and thus not preparing your team. He was out coached. He abandoned the run and called horrible plays in 3rd quarter. Actually while we are at it his play calling in all 3 superbowls he lost was highly questionable. He makes a habit of s**tting the bed in the big game. Shall I go on? His offensive genius has produced a total of 12 points in the 4th quarter and ot of all three superbowls combined. I guess that's just bad luck. By the way, He is attributed to having lost three of the biggest leads in superbowl history. More bad luck? I don't think so. Bad decisions. Bad play calling. Bad coaching.
First of all...you gotta learn how to format your posts. Nobody wants to read a paragraph of garbage takes but since I just broke my foot I don't have much else to do.
Overtime decision - I don't know why some of you are so hell bent to trash Kyle that you're willing to expose yourselves as complete fools in actually saying out loud that Shanahan didn't know the OT rules. He knew the rules. The whole hooplah about OT is that our players weren't told about them before the game.
In hindsight we can claim it was a terrible coaching decision by Kyle and the Chiefs and Andy Reid were so smart in going over the rules before the game. Guess what, if you take off the hate blinders you'll realize spending time on a hypothetical situation that doesn't actually change ANYTHING isn't a great use of time. The Chiefs spent time on it because maybe their HC didn't have to babysit the DC and could concentrate on his expertise - the offense, which btw was not very good schematically.
The new OT rules changed nothing about what the goal of the offense was when we took the ball first - score a TD. If anything under the old rules you want to score the TD cuz it secures the win. The new rules changed nothing about how OT is played save a TD on the opening possession doesn't guarantee victory and the other team gets a chance to score as well.
Kyle knew the rules. He went over it with our analytics department and our department as well as the overall analytics community had it basically a 50/50 split whether to take it first or kick it off to the other team. For all the talk of Kyle not being good at game management the decision to take it first even in hindsight is more logical than not.
At the time of the decision we knew a few things - the Chiefs did not have a single TD drive in the game that wasn't a result of a fumbled punt within our own 20 yard line. We knew they could kick FGs and at a good distance. We knew they were starting to find their groove against our defense who was just out on the field giving up the tying FG in under 2 minutes and a defense that was on the field a good amount of plays in the 4th quarter. They were tired.
The decision to take the ball allowed that defense to rest and try to find a way to fix the cracks that KC found towards the end of the 4th. It also gave us the first possession that while didn't give us a "know what you have to match/exceed" situation gave us a chance to kick a FG and if KC does what they've done most of that game gives the 49ers the next possession where they can win with a FG.
That is all logical and given how the game was going made sense. That's what game management is. You're making calls based on what you've seen in that game, in that moment. The whole "you can't give Mahomes the ball last" narrative is fun now but that same Mahomes wasn't showing he could lead his offense down the field and score a TD even against our defense without Greenlaw.
But yes please do go on. You claim he didn't run enough show me what plays he clearly should've ran on that he didn't. The whole he didn't run enough in the 3rd quarter is a lazy narrative that I've gone over in this thread a few times. I already wrote a lot above so I won't get into it again. But considering every actual in game decision you mentioned as a coaching fail wasn't...you'll have to bring something else to this conversation.
Excuses for failure, but that is an opinion just like criticizing is an opinion.
In the world of PR spins and social media all is ok, but the history cannot be changed and we all know what truly happened at the end of the day.
Could you imagine any coach saying let's go ahead and give Montana/Brady the ball last since we have been affective against then all game long? Mahomes is that kind of QB.
Preparation is the key to football. Bill Walsh knew he was going sprint right option in that situation, so did Montana because it had been rehearsed or practiced over and over again for that particular situation.
Mahomes was so surprised when he ran to his sideline, he basically said I didn't have to do anything "they wanted it, they wanted the football!"
Nothing I said was excuses. They were literal facts in that game when the OT decision was made. I challenge you to take anything I said and act like it was an opinion or an excuse.
Mahomes is a great QB but they hadn't scored a TD without that fumble in 6 quarters of football. They were mediocre all season. This was not the Mahomes of 2018-2019 or even last year. You wanted the man to coach scared and yet I see a ton of Shanahan bashers claim he's not aggressive enough. It's like you guys can't find a consistent narrative. You want him to run but be aggressive, you want to keep Mahomes off the field but have no problem possibly running into a turnover on downs where he can win with a FG - something he actually proved he could do consistently in that game. Leading TD drives was not that.
In the end we didn't do our part on that first drive which was score a TD. Yet the play to do so was there if Burford does his job. That is not a coaching failure. Wilks get no blame from you - yet when faced with two leads late in the 4th and in OT he pulled out his worst for the biggest moments in the game. Literally pulled out the red carpet for the man. Preparation is the key to football...yet we weren't prepared for a 4th down play that could win us the SB.
Yes, let's blame Kyle.
Mahomes running to the sideline meant nothing if the 49ers do their job. They score a TD on that opening possession or stop them on 4th down and that clip is likely never released or if it is we're all laughing at it. You're evaluating decisions with hindsight. I'm confident had Kyle seen the future the way you clearly can and he'd have several SBs by now. Give him a call maybe and show him a thing or two Ms Cleo.
