49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

So you blame the followers before the leaders?

Isn't Purdy the leader of the offense? Why wouldn't you blame him? Kyle wasn't in the lineup during that play, correct? Who leads the offense? IT'S THE QB'S FAULT!!! Correct? All this talk just so the haters can blame the HC, instead f the player, that admits he screwed up. I guess he's not on your 'I Hate' list.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

Glory: Who drafted Dre !!!!!!

Same guy that hired Steve Wilks as the DC.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

So you blame the followers before the leaders?

Isn't Purdy the leader of the offense? Why wouldn't you blame him? Kyle wasn't in the lineup during that play, correct? Who leads the offense? IT'S THE QB'S FAULT!!! Correct?

Kyle would be looking at this post sideways saying; you do know i'm the leader of this football team, don't you?

This team has one Leader when on the field.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

So you blame the followers before the leaders?

Isn't Purdy the leader of the offense? Why wouldn't you blame him? Kyle wasn't in the lineup during that play, correct? Who leads the offense? IT'S THE QB'S FAULT!!! Correct?

Kyle would be looking at this post sideways saying; you do know i'm the leader of this football team, don't you?

This team has one Leader when on the field.

Is that 'leader' in the offensive huddle? Does he have the ball in his hands? Is it the HC's fault when the QB throws an int? Or the RB fumbles? Or when the lineman goes rouge and misses his assignment? All on the HC, right?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

Glory: Who drafted Dre !!!!!!

Same guy that hired Steve Wilks as the DC.

and who hired that guy, and the guy above him and so on !!! such a lame no knowledge football take man

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

So you blame the followers before the leaders?

Isn't Purdy the leader of the offense? Why wouldn't you blame him? Kyle wasn't in the lineup during that play, correct? Who leads the offense? IT'S THE QB'S FAULT!!! Correct?

Kyle would be looking at this post sideways saying; you do know i'm the leader of this football team, don't you?

This team has one Leader when on the field.

Is that 'leader' in the offensive huddle? Does he have the ball in his hands?

Nope

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

So you blame the followers before the leaders?

Isn't Purdy the leader of the offense? Why wouldn't you blame him? Kyle wasn't in the lineup during that play, correct? Who leads the offense? IT'S THE QB'S FAULT!!! Correct?

Kyle would be looking at this post sideways saying; you do know i'm the leader of this football team, don't you?

This team has one Leader when on the field.

Is that 'leader' in the offensive huddle? Does he have the ball in his hands?

Nope

Then he's not the leader during the play. Apparently you have a problem with authority.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

Glory: Who drafted Dre !!!!!!

Same guy that hired Steve Wilks as the DC.

and who hired that guy, and the guy above him and so on !!! such a lame no knowledge football take man

You don't like the fact that everything falls on leadership. I know that is a hard concept for some folks but EVERYTHING on any side of the ball will fall at the feet of the Head Coach good or bad, he gets all the credit and blame.

I don't even know what the bolded above means, but it reminds me of a small child having no response to being owned.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

So you blame the followers before the leaders?

Isn't Purdy the leader of the offense? Why wouldn't you blame him? Kyle wasn't in the lineup during that play, correct? Who leads the offense? IT'S THE QB'S FAULT!!! Correct?

Kyle would be looking at this post sideways saying; you do know i'm the leader of this football team, don't you?

This team has one Leader when on the field.

Is that 'leader' in the offensive huddle? Does he have the ball in his hands?

Nope

Then he's not the leader during the play. Apparently you have a problem with authority.

I have a problem with authority, and you don't believe the Head Coach is responsible for the team.

Google organizational Chart and see what you come up with.

LMAO

Originally posted by glorydayz:
You don't like the fact that everything falls on leadership. I know that is a hard concept for some folks but EVERYTHING on any side of the ball will fall at the feet of the Head Coach good or bad, he gets all the credit and blame.

I don't even know what the bolded above means, but it reminds me of a small child having no response to being owned.

Nothing wrong with this argument in my opinion. Personally think it's correct.

Where this breaks down is any conclusion other than Shanahan has done a stellar job overall.

A perfect example is Steve Wilks, as you referenced. His first two hires were so successful he was forced to make a third and it didn't work out as well. There aren't an infinite amount of high quality coordinators available to teams.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by boast:
thread's really become hilarious. players have zero responsibility in many of these ridiculous takes. these dudes would blame Kyle for Dre's achilles if they could.

Glory: Who drafted Dre !!!!!!

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
You don't like the fact that everything falls on leadership. I know that is a hard concept for some folks but EVERYTHING on any side of the ball will fall at the feet of the Head Coach good or bad, he gets all the credit and blame.

I don't even know what the bolded above means, but it reminds me of a small child having no response to being owned.

Nothing wrong with this argument in my opinion. Personally think it's correct.

Where this breaks down is any conclusion other than Shanahan has done a stellar job overall.

A perfect example is Steve Wilks, as you referenced. His first two hires were so successful he was forced to make a third and it didn't work out as well. There aren't an infinite amount of high quality coordinators available to teams.

Very good post! I have been waiting for this response hence me stating over and over again that Shanahan is responsible for EVERYTHING football related with our team. I had to throw in that little nugget, Good or Bad, for someone to catch on but I can take that.

If he's credited for CMC's TD's he's also responsible for the fumbles. If he's credited for the great offense, defense, and ST game plans he's also responsible for the ones that fail. If he's responsible for Robert Saleh, Mike McDaniel, and Demeco Ryans success then he is responsible for Steve Wilks failure.

NO EXCUSES

Originally posted by glorydayz:
You don't like the fact that everything falls on leadership. I know that is a hard concept for some folks but EVERYTHING on any side of the ball will fall at the feet of the Head Coach good or bad, he gets all the credit and blame.

I don't even know what the bolded above means, but it reminds me of a small child having no response to being owned.

again...youre saying Kyle is responsible for CMC's fumble in the SB.

and by that low IQ logic, when and if CMC goes into the HoF, it was Kyle Shanahan who deserves all of the recognition and credit.

lol at thinking you owned anyone on this board.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Very good post! I have been waiting for this response hence me stating over and over again that Shanahan is responsible for EVERYTHING football related with our team. I had to throw in that little nugget, Good or Bad, for someone to catch on but I can take that.

If he's credited for CMC's TD's he's also responsible for the fumbles. If he's credited for the great offense, defense, and ST game plans he's also responsible for the ones that fail. If he's responsible for Robert Saleh, Mike McDaniel, and Demeco Ryans success then he is responsible for Steve Wilks failure.

NO EXCUSES

He's ultimately responsible, but it's foolish to not assign a level of responsibility to every cog in the operation.

Shanahan has done an exceptional job overall. So much so he's confused what would be appropriate standards among fans, some of whom can't let go of the past successes of what is effectively a completely different organization in a completely different league.

This is the golden age of this franchise under York ownership.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
You don't like the fact that everything falls on leadership. I know that is a hard concept for some folks but EVERYTHING on any side of the ball will fall at the feet of the Head Coach good or bad, he gets all the credit and blame.

I don't even know what the bolded above means, but it reminds me of a small child having no response to being owned.

again...youre saying Kyle is responsible for CMC's fumble in the SB.

and by that low IQ logic, when and if CMC goes into the HoF, it was Kyle Shanahan who deserves all of the recognition and credit.

lol at thinking you owned anyone on this board.

Google org. chart yet?

Kyle is responsible for EVERYTHING.

What sounds more like real life here;

Kyle Shanahan's 49ers were defeated in the Super Bowl by Andy Reid's Chiefs.

or

Christian McCaffrey was defeated in the Super Bowl by Patrick Mahomes?