49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We've seen KC's defense rise up in the 4th quarter twice against the Niners in the SB. It's not always about the overall stats. In big games it's usually the team that makes the big plays in the closing minutes.

We've also seen the 49ers offense stutter In the 4thQ of super Bowls against the same team.

Poor execution? Poor coaching? Or maybe a combination of the two? Either way, we'll be seeing them again In the near future, I'm pretty sure.

probably a more reasoned take than suggesting that SB 58 was Kyle's The Catch moment

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
We've also seen the 49ers offense stutter In the 4thQ of super Bowls against the same team.

Poor execution? Poor coaching? Or maybe a combination of the two? Either way, we'll be seeing them again In the near future, I'm pretty sure.

Same team in name only. The Chiefs defense was an average unit in '19 and considerably better this past season. Same thing in reverse with their offense.

Yup. That's what some people can't seem to comprehend. Yes it was the Chiefs in both cases but the teams were very different. The Chiefs were a mid level defense that was made better due to their powerful offense and their ability to rush the passer and create turnovers.

They were 7th in points allowed but 17th in yards allowed. Not terrible but definitely not a defense to fear. We had several opportunities in the 4th quarter to milk the clock or put more points on the board and missed them - either due to bad reads by the QB, questionable lack of flags thrown, misses by the QB or just big time plays by Chris Jones who knocked down I believe two key passes which likely would've connected and probably won the game for us.

This past SB we faced a totally different defense. They were 2nd in both points allowed and yards allowed and they were playing their best football. Their HC went to praise them to the level where he didn't think he had a single weak link on that defense and they had guys play their ass off. Whether it was Chris Jones again or McDuffie who was an absolute terror there were few easy plays to make. Yet we still had our offense move the ball and get points. They weren't TDs but they got the lead every time they stepped foot on the field in the 4th quarter and in OT.

The games were not the same and people need to stop treating them that way simply because we lost both to the Chiefs.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We've seen KC's defense rise up in the 4th quarter twice against the Niners in the SB. It's not always about the overall stats. In big games it's usually the team that makes the big plays in the closing minutes.

We've also seen the 49ers offense stutter In the 4thQ of super Bowls against the same team.

Poor execution? Poor coaching? Or maybe a combination of the two? Either way, we'll be seeing them again In the near future, I'm pretty sure.

probably a more reasoned take than suggesting that SB 58 was Kyle's The Catch moment

Nobody said that. You're either trolling or being purposefully obtuse.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We've seen KC's defense rise up in the 4th quarter twice against the Niners in the SB. It's not always about the overall stats. In big games it's usually the team that makes the big plays in the closing minutes.

We've also seen the 49ers offense stutter In the 4thQ of super Bowls against the same team.

Poor execution? Poor coaching? Or maybe a combination of the two? Either way, we'll be seeing them again In the near future, I'm pretty sure.

probably a more reasoned take than suggesting that SB 58 was Kyle's The Catch moment

Nobody said that. You're either trolling or being purposefully obtuse.

i didn't bring up The Catch, and I don't see SB 58 having anything to do with it. I see no real connection there.

this is part of your game. the blame needs pointed at everyone, other than Kyle. So if someone wants to say it's like The Catch only the D failed, you predictably jump on board, in a does the blame go to Kyle?.. no? well then I agree fashion. I would suggest if you want to defend Kyle, point to how valuable a coaching asset he is, or how much he wins, or how deep we go each season, and the players all seem to have his back, or the O ranks, etc. There's a lot to like with Kyle. When we settle for FGs late after a pass pro bust, spinning that moment to have anything to do with The Catch, oh we took the lead, just like The Catch.. the plot has been lost. it's absurd

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
yeah i really liked the WZ article about Lawrence Pillers and his strip sack that ended The Catch game. The Catch wouldve meant nothing had the defense not done their job during the last possession of the game.

In this last SB, the offense left the field in OT with a lead. it was the defense that ultimately lost the game.

laugh all you want. what i say is true.

there was nothing we did in OT that belongs in the convo with The Catch. what are we doin here
you act like settling for a Moody fg was The Catch, and the D didn't hold up afterward. total joke

huh?

after The Catch, the Niners offense left the field with a one point lead.

after the FG in the last SB, the Niner offense left the field with a 3 pt lead.

youre going on about something that has nothing to do with the actual point i made. youre b***hing for the sake of b***hing. 🤡

NO ONE WAS COMPARING PLAYS TO THE CATCH!!!!

the comparison was what the D did after the team took a lead

the reading comprehension on this board is so bad sometimes. holy s**t.

Originally posted by boast:
b***hing for the sake of b***hing. 🤡

I mean, that's basically all this thread is for now. Sadly.

Originally posted by boast:
NO ONE WAS COMPARING PLAYS TO THE CATCH!!!!

the comparison was what the D did after the team took a lead

the reading comprehension on this board is so bad sometimes. holy s**t.

I went back to see how The Catch came up and noticed the same. I think F6 is purposely misunderstanding the point. He must be.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by boast:
NO ONE WAS COMPARING PLAYS TO THE CATCH!!!!

the comparison was what the D did after the team took a lead

the reading comprehension on this board is so bad sometimes. holy s**t.

I went back to see how The Catch came up and noticed the same. I think F6 is purposely misunderstanding the point. He must be.

he absolutely is

🤡s gonna 🤡

Originally posted by boast:
NO ONE WAS COMPARING PLAYS TO THE CATCH!!!!

the comparison was what did the D do after the team took a lead

the reading comprehension on this board is so bad sometimes. holy s**t.

It's a writing comprehension issue. Why even bring up The Catch? You want to mention us taking the lead with Moody is like The Catch game and the d didn't hold up. Don't be upset with me for laughing at nonsense.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
NO ONE WAS COMPARING PLAYS TO THE CATCH!!!!

the comparison was what did the D do after the team took a lead

the reading comprehension on this board is so bad sometimes. holy s**t.

It's a writing comprehension issue. Why even bring up The Catch? You want to mention us taking the lead with Moody is like The Catch game and the d didn't hold up. Don't be upset with me for laughing at nonsense.

Nah, I read the whole exchange and it's definitely reading comprehension. Don't take it personally.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's a writing comprehension issue. Why even bring up The Catch? You want to mention us taking the lead with Moody is like The Catch game and the d didn't hold up. Don't be upset with me for laughing at nonsense.

Multiple people are telling you that you're missing the point. Perhaps intentionally. The point of referencing the game was clear. You briefly touched on it yourself:

'there was less than 60 seconds to respond.. Mahomes had effectively unlimited game clock, the game would have gone into 6 quarters and flipped field. this is nonsensical comparison.'

Unfortunately that was sandwiched between your complaint about a comparison to a singular play, over multiple posts, which wasn't actually made.

This is my comprehension of why The Catch was even brought up. It's to show that some moments are forgotten had it not been for another event taking place. No one would care about The Catch had it not been for the 49er defense clutching up to secure the win. If we are talking about specific moments from the recent SB as an example, I rarely read any mention of the double throw Jennings touchdown pass to CMC - a holy s**t trick play moment. But none of us care because the game was an L for the 49ers.

I AM NOT COMPARING THAT JENNINGS THROW TO THE CATCH.
I AM NOT COMPARING THAT JENNINGS THROW TO THE CATCH.
I AM NOT COMPARING THAT JENNINGS THROW TO THE CATCH.
I AM NOT COMPARING THAT JENNINGS THROW TO THE CATCH.
I AM NOT COMPARING THAT JENNINGS THROW TO THE CATCH.

Originally posted by thl408:
This is my comprehension of why The Catch was even brought up. It's to show that some moments are forgotten had it not been for another event taking place. No one would care about The Catch had it not been for the 49er defense clutching up to secure the win. If we are talking about specific moments from the recent SB as an example, I rarely read any mention of the double throw Jennings touchdown pass to CMC - a holy s**t trick play moment. But none of us care because the game was an L for the 49ers.

I AM NOT COMPARING THAT JENNINGS THROW TO THE CATCH.

We know, lol. It was clear.

I AM NOT COMPARING THAT JENNINGS THROW TO THE CATCH.