49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
this thread took 10 turns for the worse

Seems to be the pattern haha

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
this thread took 10 turns for the worse

Seems to be the pattern haha

This thread as It's ups and downs, but Is always entertaining.

You can see how tribal people are.

No wonder the world has no hope in today's modern political environment.

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Fair enough. I can buy into that. I am very skeptical that he can overcome his post season meltdowns though. There is only one thing that changes the perception of choking. Win one. It doesn't have to be pretty either. Just win #6. for me that's the only measure of his success as our HC. He has a loaded roster.. again. He has his QB finally and thank god for that. All the pieces are on the table. He just needs to bring them all together and win. let's see what happens.

Not sure how you can call it a meltdown though. Lost multiple starters in the SB. Kittle and Deebo got hurt (and tried playing though it). They attacked Burks the moment Dre got hurt. Burford went simple Jack on one of the most important plays of the game. OPOY fumbled in the RZ etc etc.

Instead of saying he should have call such and such play after the fact. Why not look at the plays that were called and if the players actually executed them properly? Jimmy hits sanders they probably win the SB. Brock makes a correct read on a hot route on 3rd down or a RG makes the read protection. They probably win the SB. Dropped INT by Tartt and they're more than likely going to the SB. Punt return fumble.

at some point you studs gotta show up and make plays in the biggest moments. KC has that, Brady did it for years. Montana/young/Rice all did.

A HC can only do so much. Giving Reid a pat on the back for mahomes making some absurd throw on 3rd and 15 with bosa/bucker all over him is dumb. That's on the players. Mahomes scrambling around making plays at the end of the SB is on him.

This is the truth.

I don't attribute the losses to just Kyle though. Agreed on players need to execute but kyle is also responsible as the hc.. right? He is the common element in those losses. Why is that? The criticism and praise he receives was earned. Both are legitimate. At the end of the day what we have to look at is his full body of work. His record. It's impressive yes …but .. it also shows us his flaws. That can't be overlooked or fully explained away by blaming others. He will continue to be criticized until he wins the big game.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I agree its been at best half hearted attempts. Aside TW they have not really hit at all.

Correct, I am not really bashing it either way more than simply questioning it much as you are. I did want JPJ there as I feel a star center would make a huge difference even if not sexy (I now believe his injury flags turned them off, and I am not going to argue that given this teams history).

I think they knew Aiyuk and Deebo would be next to impossible to keep together more than a year or two so Pearsall is the bride to be. Again that makes sense, but we chose him over a few good o-line prospects for sure. Time will tell.

I am also not high of Foerster either, but tbh as Ncommand always said they simply don't value o-line and now the damn o-line coach literally SAID IT.
I really don't want this to bite them in the ass again, but tbh it probably will.

To be fair that quote was highly out of context. The initial reported quote bothered me big time but then I heard it in context and it wasn't anything crazy.

It's simply an OL coach saying HIS beliefs which is you invest the earlier picks in guys who touch the ball and he can coach up guys drafted later on. I'm pretty sure he mentioned rounds 2+ so it's not like he was saying just draft guys on day 3.

That's what the OL coach should think. I'm sure he'd want a talented guy to work with but it's also logical to think "i can coach them up"

Let's not forget the 2nd 1st round by ShanaLynch was Mike McGlinchey 9th overall. A pick many of us weren't exactly thrilled with but it's clear they value the position when they see the fit is there. Trent Brown was still on the roster when we drafted McGlinchey too.

If anything I think Kyle underrates the importance of guards but I'm hoping the selection of Banks and now Puni that's changing as well. I just think Kyle is VERY particular about his OLmen and if we're not careful it will be a major problem in a blink. Have to find our LT/RT of the future and identify our Center of the future in the next year or two max.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
My pet peeve with Kyle is that he's too aggressive and panics too often when he's behind in the 4th QTr.

That said, I dont see anybody else better in the NFL coaching the 49ers other than Kyle. He has the pedigree, history and connections with the legends of the past. Now with an elite franchise QB in Brock, he's got his ideal more mobile and accurate Kirk Cousins QB. He's set to dominate the NFL the way Reid/Mahomes and Belichick/Brady did in the past. We shall see.

I think a lot of HC'a have issues when playing from behind in the 4th QR. that's not just a kyle thing.

IMO that's when you need your highly paid studs to show up. Boss make a 3rd down sack, Warner get a INT, kittle/deebo/BA/CMC break some tackles and score a TD. Trent block the snot out of their best pass-rusher. Brock don't shell up and make a play.

They've made big plays in big moments. Gotta have it in the 4th QR of the the Super Bowl now….on both sides.

Yeah...let's be honest this team isn't built to just air the ball out without the threat of the run. Yes we can do it but when the other team knows we have to pass(common when a team is down late) it exposes our biggest weakness - pass pro.

Brock had moments where he can make up for it and given our talent at the skill positions that certainly helps. But KC got us in the rush and at the backend with blanket coverage. I think that's why Kyle addressed WR. He's looking for more guys who can get open quickly. It's also why I think we keep Aiyuk when it's all said and done. He was getting open in the SB, just wasn't getting the ball because we featured Deebo more or because his routes were longer developing ones and the OL wasn't giving Brock time to hit him.

But yes...you need your big players to make big plays in key moments. KC keeps getting it from their guys whether it's Mahomes/Kelce or Chris Jones and this last one...Trent McDuffie.

When you have your top guys having a rough game in the biggest game...the odds of you winning regardless of the coaching decisions definitely take a hit.

"I think Kyle is so innovative, I think what he's done with formation and motion, crushes everybody out there. I will fight, I will physically fight if someone comes up and gets in my face about Kyle, because, that tells me they don't know anything about football. And to just rant and rave because he hasn't won a Super Bowl; you know how many great coaches haven't won a superbowl? There's a lot. "
- Brent Jones on the Krueg show the other day.

Originally posted by BP13:
"I think Kyle is so innovative, I think what he's done with formation and motion, crushes everybody out there. I will fight, I will physically fight if someone comes up and gets in my face about Kyle, because, that tells me they don't know anything about football. And to just rant and rave because he hasn't won a Super Bowl; you know how many great coaches haven't won a superbowl? There's a lot. "
- Brent Jones on the Krueg show the other day.

That's what a lot of us have been saying about Kyle and why the proper response is I love my f**king coach.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BP13:
"I think Kyle is so innovative, I think what he's done with formation and motion, crushes everybody out there. I will fight, I will physically fight if someone comes up and gets in my face about Kyle, because, that tells me they don't know anything about football. And to just rant and rave because he hasn't won a Super Bowl; you know how many great coaches haven't won a superbowl? There's a lot. "
- Brent Jones on the Krueg show the other day.

That's what a lot of us have been saying about Kyle and why the proper response is I love my f**king coach.

Same as Jim Harbaugh huh?

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BP13:
"I think Kyle is so innovative, I think what he's done with formation and motion, crushes everybody out there. I will fight, I will physically fight if someone comes up and gets in my face about Kyle, because, that tells me they don't know anything about football. And to just rant and rave because he hasn't won a Super Bowl; you know how many great coaches haven't won a superbowl? There's a lot. "
- Brent Jones on the Krueg show the other day.

That's what a lot of us have been saying about Kyle and why the proper response is I love my f**king coach.

Same as Jim Harbaugh huh?

I love Harbaugh as well. Shouldn't have been fired but we ended up with a better coach after all. Usually isn't the case.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BP13:
"I think Kyle is so innovative, I think what he's done with formation and motion, crushes everybody out there. I will fight, I will physically fight if someone comes up and gets in my face about Kyle, because, that tells me they don't know anything about football. And to just rant and rave because he hasn't won a Super Bowl; you know how many great coaches haven't won a superbowl? There's a lot. "
- Brent Jones on the Krueg show the other day.

That's what a lot of us have been saying about Kyle and why the proper response is I love my f**king coach.

Same as Jim Harbaugh huh?

I love Harbaugh as well. Shouldn't have been fired but we ended up with a better coach after all. Usually isn't the case.

Harbaugh was fired for being bat s**t crazy and feuding with his boss

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Harbaugh was fired for being bat s**t crazy and feuding with his boss

What was he feuding with his boss about?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Harbaugh was fired for being bat s**t crazy and feuding with his boss

What was he feuding with his boss about?

not getting rid of Roman

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Harbaugh was fired for being bat s**t crazy and feuding with his boss

What was he feuding with his boss about?

Gender neutral locker rooms

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Gender neutral locker rooms

Lol. Jed mad af.