49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Excellent video for all the Kyle haters

Originally posted by tankle104:


Excellent video for all the Kyle haters

When does he talk about Kyle? Cause I hear a lot about soup lol

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

Dan Reeves is an excellent name to bring up in this discussion. Kind of a forgotten name…I admit I forgot about him as well but 4 SB losses, 3 of them with John Elway as his QB and some good defenses to go with him.

Why these guys aren't serious in their takes.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

Dan Reeves is an excellent name to bring up in this discussion. Kind of a forgotten name…I admit I forgot about him as well but 4 SB losses, 3 of them with John Elway as his QB and some good defenses to go with him.

Why these guys aren't serious in their takes.

Kyle is one away… and he played more of a role in the losses. Blowouts are one thing.. blowing leads is another…. One could say your takes are not serious..

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

Dan Reeves is an excellent name to bring up in this discussion. Kind of a forgotten name…I admit I forgot about him as well but 4 SB losses, 3 of them with John Elway as his QB and some good defenses to go with him.

Why these guys aren't serious in their takes.

Kyle is one away… and he played more of a role in the losses. Blowouts are one thing.. blowing leads is another…. One could say your takes are not serious..

Yeah a coach who prepares his team so well they get blown out every time is totally more impressive than blowing a 10 point lead in the 2nd quarter.

I'm sad that my taxes went to paying off your clown college student loans.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

choke verb (FAIL)
[ I ] informal
(also choke it)(usually in sports) to fail to do something at a time when it is urgent, usually because you suddenly lose confidence.

For those of you who haven't fully understood the meaning of "choke".

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

Dan Reeves is an excellent name to bring up in this discussion. Kind of a forgotten name…I admit I forgot about him as well but 4 SB losses, 3 of them with John Elway as his QB and some good defenses to go with him.

Why these guys aren't serious in their takes.

As a bit of a Dan Reeves fan boy...I can't help but weigh in on this.

I really liked the guy, but I don't think we are looking at a coach choking as much as we are looking at his coaching philosophy.

In that Era you had coaches that went wide open like a Marv Levy, you had coaches that wanted to dominate time of possession like Bill Walsh, and you had coaches that wanted to limit mistakes Shottenishimer and Reeves.

The following generations really started to mesh stuff...like Norv Turner and Shanny 1.0

To Be fair...all coaches want points, TOP and limited turnovers....but some systems are built for certain results.

Dan Reeves get's into this in his book, his main goal was to not risk the football, let other teams make mistakes and capitalize on that. He said he could do this because he had the best horse in the race and could turn Elway loose in the 4th if he needed too. It is common knowledge that Elway played for years with handcuffs on, only to be turned loose late when the game was still on the line. This is why I hate the 4th qtr comeback conversations. Elway has so many because that is how Reeves coached the game. Yes Elway gets credit for doing it...but it is not apples to apples. This is an absolute classic example of playing not to loose.

I think anyone that wants to use Dan Reeves as a coach that chokes is very.....very....off. He was an over achiever, and it was clear he ended up in some SBs that he really did not have the talent to be in.

If someone want's to be critical of Reeves, I think it fair to question the play not to loose mentality.....I think we have a large enough sample size to say unless you have an overwhelming defense...or historically great break away Running Back.....hell...you kind of need both....teams that have gone that approach have faltered.

I am a homer...no doubt....but I will always be partial to the 1st down focused football of Bill Walsh and the WCO. You control down and distance, first coach to really do this with the passing game....and you control the clock....again first coach to really do this with the passing game. Walsh and the many, mannnnnny WCO clones proved a healthy run/pass balance was a repeatable year in and year out way to play football.

The common denominator with Dan Reeves and Marv Levy is that they coached two teams that went to 7 of 8 Super Bowls when the AFC was at it's worst. It was almost a matter of which AFC team sucked the least, just to go to the Super Bowl and get rolled into the dirt by any one of 3 or 4 NFC teams. Niether were chokers.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

choke verb (FAIL)
[ I ] informal
(also choke it)(usually in sports) to fail to do something at a time when it is urgent, usually because you suddenly lose confidence.

For those of you who haven't fully understood the meaning of "choke".

Moron

noun
a stupid person.
"we can't let these thoughtless morons get away with mindless vandalism every weekend"

a person of low intelligence.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

choke verb (FAIL)
[ I ] informal
(also choke it)(usually in sports) to fail to do something at a time when it is urgent, usually because you suddenly lose confidence.

For those of you who haven't fully understood the meaning of "choke".

Moron

noun
a stupid person.
"we can't let these thoughtless morons get away with mindless vandalism every weekend"

a person of low intelligence.

Is this your business card?

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
now do a Super Bowl HC ranks

Top Choker

Nope. That would be Marv Levy.

Dan Reeves choked worse than Levy. All four of his SB losses were ultimately blowouts.

choke verb (FAIL)
[ I ] informal
(also choke it)(usually in sports) to fail to do something at a time when it is urgent, usually because you suddenly lose confidence.

For those of you who haven't fully understood the meaning of "choke".

Moron

noun
a stupid person.
"we can't let these thoughtless morons get away with mindless vandalism every weekend"

a person of low intelligence.

Is this your business card?

That was clever champ, a NO U response, did you learn that in school today?

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by tankle104:


Excellent video for all the Kyle haters

When does he talk about Kyle? Cause I hear a lot about soup lol

Patience isn't a strength huh? 16 minute mark since you can't be bothered.

Originally posted by Dshearn:
As a bit of a Dan Reeves fan boy...I can't help but weigh in on this.

I really liked the guy, but I don't think we are looking at a coach choking as much as we are looking at his coaching philosophy.

In that Era you had coaches that went wide open like a Marv Levy, you had coaches that wanted to dominate time of possession like Bill Walsh, and you had coaches that wanted to limit mistakes Shottenishimer and Reeves.

The following generations really started to mesh stuff...like Norv Turner and Shanny 1.0

To Be fair...all coaches want points, TOP and limited turnovers....but some systems are built for certain results.

Dan Reeves get's into this in his book, his main goal was to not risk the football, let other teams make mistakes and capitalize on that. He said he could do this because he had the best horse in the race and could turn Elway loose in the 4th if he needed too. It is common knowledge that Elway played for years with handcuffs on, only to be turned loose late when the game was still on the line. This is why I hate the 4th qtr comeback conversations. Elway has so many because that is how Reeves coached the game. Yes Elway gets credit for doing it...but it is not apples to apples. This is an absolute classic example of playing not to loose.

I think anyone that wants to use Dan Reeves as a coach that chokes is very.....very....off. He was an over achiever, and it was clear he ended up in some SBs that he really did not have the talent to be in.

If someone want's to be critical of Reeves, I think it fair to question the play not to loose mentality.....I think we have a large enough sample size to say unless you have an overwhelming defense...or historically great break away Running Back.....hell...you kind of need both....teams that have gone that approach have faltered.

I am a homer...no doubt....but I will always be partial to the 1st down focused football of Bill Walsh and the WCO. You control down and distance, first coach to really do this with the passing game....and you control the clock....again first coach to really do this with the passing game. Walsh and the many, mannnnnny WCO clones proved a healthy run/pass balance was a repeatable year in and year out way to play football.

Great breakdown but coaching philosophy is definitely related to actual coaching which is the thing some people here are failing to grasp.

Where does coaching failure or so called choking come into play and when is player choking come into play.

Despite the clown show trying to add definitions into this conversation, fact is coaches do not make plays on their field. Their big moments are the SB prep, gameplan and adjustments and playcalling.

A HC who goes into a game and his team is outmatched from nearly the start is choking as far as a coach goes. He didn't have the team prepared, his gameplan was trash and in the case of Reeves I believe his teams did their worst in the end of their SBs which means his adjustments were garbage.

Kyle even with his issues in game management in 2019 and adjustments in 2023 had the offense in looks that schematically were advantageous. But if the players don't execute the play there to be made, that's the players choking. Not the HC.

Kyle seems to be the only HC around who gets blamed for a SB collapse as an OC while also getting all the blame from the defensive failures but not his DCs.

It's laughable honestly. People fixate on the "he's 0-3 in SBs" and abandon all reason and logic.