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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9moon:
AGAIN - Kyle being clueless when it matters most will continue to be exposed... that last pass play he called, he couldn't figure out a way that a young 74 is blocking an all pro 95, and while we still have a young QB to even see that, Kyle shoulda been the one to realize that a FB should have been in the play helping out the OL block.. But, he was too concern about calling a PRETTY PLAY instead of just using the best RB in FB to gain a first down in 2 tries...

lol get that f**k out of here with that…burford had played and started in 29 games. Pickup the block your SUPPOSE to make. Period. Blaming that on coaching is incredibly ignorant.

Acting like Brock has never seen a blitz call before is also being silly man. He called a play that had BA wide f**king open and JJ would have been if Burford literally put his hands on Jones.

Play calling doesn't mean jack s**t if a player can't execute it. You need to understand that instead of forcing yourself to hate a HC because it's easy.

NON SENSE !!! the play was going to 15 no matter what, YUCK just got opened over the top but that play was obviously going to 15... I don't care what you say about 74, you don't block 95 one on one w/a young guy on an important play..

WHY is it so hard for you SHANANYGANS to accept the fact that he was the one to blame for the two KC losses in the Super Bowl?

Not hard at all, he is the Head Coach. The loss is 100% on Kyle.

He is also the O.C so the play you mentioned in which the best D-linemen in the game was left unblocked. Well the player who "can't be trusted out there to block him" is still on the team which is also a Kyle decision.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I will throw out a question for the die hard Kyle supporters- What does Kyle need to improve or change to make him a better coach and how will those changes help the team?

lol. You posed a question, first thing the Shanafans did was blame the players. It's becoming cult like. No one wants to address the elephant in the room. It's all about the players doing better….

Irony in this is that player performance is still on the coach. I get the nuance of it, but in the end it all goes back to the head coach. And since Kyle has a lot of say in personnel decisions as well, that just adds to it.

That's a trash take. Where do you draw the line between player execution and coaching? You act like the coach controls the players. They're grown men who can be drilled on things for so long before they have to go out and respond on the field.

You think Shanahan didn't drill ball control into his players? Think CMC hasn't been coaching his whole football career to not fumble? Burford literally knew his assignment but decided to go with his gut on the play. What do you expect the coach to do? Read the kid's mind and use telekinesis to move him to the correct gap instead?

Coaches impact player performance by ensuring they practice properly, work on the fundamentals, teach them how they can do their job better. Nothing we've heard come out from current/former players/coaches about Kyle say that he doesn't have his guys prepared like the best of them.

I've asked many times in this thread for someone to show me a play that Kyle dialed up that clearly put our players in a bad spot schematically. Like a play where there was no answer vs the defensive look we saw. There has been only one response to that question and it was a new poster and his example was on the play Brock didn't identify the blitz properly and had a wide open Aiyuk for would be first down that likely allows us to run out the clock and kick the game winning FG avoiding OT.

Feel free to post a play that Kyle put the team in a disadvantage schematically that cost us the game. I can point to a few from Wilks.

Sorry if you feel that way, but that's how it is. If the players don't perform the coach takes heat.
Originally posted by genus49:
That's a trash take. Where do you draw the line between player execution and coaching? You act like the coach controls the players. They're grown men who can be drilled on things for so long before they have to go out and respond on the field.

You think Shanahan didn't drill ball control into his players? Think CMC hasn't been coaching his whole football career to not fumble? Burford literally knew his assignment but decided to go with his gut on the play. What do you expect the coach to do? Read the kid's mind and use telekinesis to move him to the correct gap instead?

Coaches impact player performance by ensuring they practice properly, work on the fundamentals, teach them how they can do their job better. Nothing we've heard come out from current/former players/coaches about Kyle say that he doesn't have his guys prepared like the best of them.

I've asked many times in this thread for someone to show me a play that Kyle dialed up that clearly put our players in a bad spot schematically. Like a play where there was no answer vs the defensive look we saw. There has been only one response to that question and it was a new poster and his example was on the play Brock didn't identify the blitz properly and had a wide open Aiyuk for would be first down that likely allows us to run out the clock and kick the game winning FG avoiding OT.

Feel free to post a play that Kyle put the team in a disadvantage schematically that cost us the game. I can point to a few from Wilks.

I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I will throw out a question for the die hard Kyle supporters- What does Kyle need to improve or change to make him a better coach and how will those changes help the team?

Need his players to not get hurt. It's that simple man. They don't lose that game if Greenlaw, Deebo, Feliciano, Kittle don't get hurt.

Brock needs more reps to feel even more confident in what he's seeing. That missed hot read on 3rd down was pretty massive.

for me, I would prefer the QB had more control of protections compared to the center. They need better pass-protection on true pass sets. They need a better center, especially if he's gonna control all the protection calls. Brendel was awful in the SB.
Makes sense. Injuries continue to kill us. Not sure he can fix that though. Pass protection changes would be very helpful.

Look at that we can agree on something
I am trying to look at it from a different perspective and look ahead instead of back. That was such a hard loss to get over. We had it and poof it was gone. New season around the corner. Do you think simplifying the offense would help the players execute better and allow for easier adjustments when key players (Deebo) go down?
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I will throw out a question for the die hard Kyle supporters- What does Kyle need to improve or change to make him a better coach and how will those changes help the team?

lol. You posed a question, first thing the Shanafans did was blame the players. It's becoming cult like. No one wants to address the elephant in the room. It's all about the players doing better….

Irony in this is that player performance is still on the coach. I get the nuance of it, but in the end it all goes back to the head coach. And since Kyle has a lot of say in personnel decisions as well, that just adds to it.

That's a trash take. Where do you draw the line between player execution and coaching? You act like the coach controls the players. They're grown men who can be drilled on things for so long before they have to go out and respond on the field.

You think Shanahan didn't drill ball control into his players? Think CMC hasn't been coaching his whole football career to not fumble? Burford literally knew his assignment but decided to go with his gut on the play. What do you expect the coach to do? Read the kid's mind and use telekinesis to move him to the correct gap instead?

Coaches impact player performance by ensuring they practice properly, work on the fundamentals, teach them how they can do their job better. Nothing we've heard come out from current/former players/coaches about Kyle say that he doesn't have his guys prepared like the best of them.

I've asked many times in this thread for someone to show me a play that Kyle dialed up that clearly put our players in a bad spot schematically. Like a play where there was no answer vs the defensive look we saw. There has been only one response to that question and it was a new poster and his example was on the play Brock didn't identify the blitz properly and had a wide open Aiyuk for would be first down that likely allows us to run out the clock and kick the game winning FG avoiding OT.

Feel free to post a play that Kyle put the team in a disadvantage schematically that cost us the game. I can point to a few from Wilks.

Sorry if you feel that way, but that's how it is. If the players don't perform the coach takes heat.

So if you go to work and instead of doing the project your boss assigned you, you decide to instead stream porn on your work computer with the sound on full blast...it's your bosses fault?

At some point grown men need to be accountable for not doing their jobs properly.
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.

That's wide open in the NFL. The corner on him literally comes in on the blitz. He's open. Brock makes the right read and throws him the ball instead of going to JJ on the outside and unless BA drops it, it's a first down and we have at least 3 downs to milk the clock further before kicking the potential game winner.

Brock even said he should've thrown to Aiyuk. The film showed he should've thrown to Aiyuk but you're here saying "well maybe it wasn't what it seemed"

Come on...also it was 3rd and 5. The graphic on TV was wrong so the people claiming he should've ran it there and gone for it on 4th down are also full of it.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.

That's wide open in the NFL. The corner on him literally comes in on the blitz. He's open. Brock makes the right read and throws him the ball instead of going to JJ on the outside and unless BA drops it, it's a first down and we have at least 3 downs to milk the clock further before kicking the potential game winner.

Brock even said he should've thrown to Aiyuk. The film showed he should've thrown to Aiyuk but you're here saying "well maybe it wasn't what it seemed"

Come on...also it was 3rd and 5. The graphic on TV was wrong so the people claiming he should've ran it there and gone for it on 4th down are also full of it.
BRock is just as much to blame.. does it mean he sucks at QB, no it doesn't. It's football and s**t goes wrong at the worst times. It's why the sport is the toughest to win a championship
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.

That's wide open in the NFL. The corner on him literally comes in on the blitz. He's open. Brock makes the right read and throws him the ball instead of going to JJ on the outside and unless BA drops it, it's a first down and we have at least 3 downs to milk the clock further before kicking the potential game winner.

Brock even said he should've thrown to Aiyuk. The film showed he should've thrown to Aiyuk but you're here saying "well maybe it wasn't what it seemed"

Come on...also it was 3rd and 5. The graphic on TV was wrong so the people claiming he should've ran it there and gone for it on 4th down are also full of it.
BRock is just as much to blame.. does it mean he sucks at QB, no it doesn't. It's football and s**t goes wrong at the worst times. It's why the sport is the toughest to win a championship

I'm not worried about Brock. Sometimes the other team puts on a great call and plays it very well. Brock is a 2nd year player, he'll learn from that much like he learned from the play that injured him.

But agree with your main point. That's why looking at the record without context is dumb in this sport.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.

That's wide open in the NFL. The corner on him literally comes in on the blitz. He's open. Brock makes the right read and throws him the ball instead of going to JJ on the outside and unless BA drops it, it's a first down and we have at least 3 downs to milk the clock further before kicking the potential game winner.

Brock even said he should've thrown to Aiyuk. The film showed he should've thrown to Aiyuk but you're here saying "well maybe it wasn't what it seemed"

Come on...also it was 3rd and 5. The graphic on TV was wrong so the people claiming he should've ran it there and gone for it on 4th down are also full of it.
BRock is just as much to blame.. does it mean he sucks at QB, no it doesn't. It's football and s**t goes wrong at the worst times. It's why the sport is the toughest to win a championship

I'm not worried about Brock. Sometimes the other team puts on a great call and plays it very well. Brock is a 2nd year player, he'll learn from that much like he learned from the play that injured him.

But agree with your main point. That's why looking at the record without context is dumb in this sport.
I guarantee Brock will now know where C Jones is on the field in our next meeting
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I think they'd be good together. JH as the head coach and KS as the offensive coordinator. Can we make that happen?

That would be a terrible combo. Shanahan would be constantly infuriated by Harbaugh's ancient offensive philosophies.

Shanahan is also a far superior head coach when it comes to working with the front office, maintaining a mature veteran locker room, interacting with the media, and as a teacher of strategic concepts. The Ws on Sunday are always the priority, but being an NFL head coach is far more than just that.

I will be very curious to see what Harbaugh does with the Chargers. He's got a great QB so he's got no excuses to hit the ground running. But he got let go at the perfect time for his image as an NFL HC.

Let go after an 8-8 season that can be blamed on injuries(even though the defense was the more injured one and still played at a high level) but we all knew the team was headed in the wrong direction. Some people claim some of the guys who retired would've stuck around if Harbaugh was the HC but I don't buy it.

Either way people caught up to our offense because Jim was too stubborn to change it up even though it was no longer working like it did in 2012/2013.

Meanwhile Kyle for all his faults had this team in 2 SBs and 2 other NFCCGs since the rebuild was completed after his first 2 seasons here. The one disaster was the covid year that was riddled with injuries to critical pieces and even then a 6-10 record was overachieving.

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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I think they'd be good together. JH as the head coach and KS as the offensive coordinator. Can we make that happen?

That would be a terrible combo. Shanahan would be constantly infuriated by Harbaugh's ancient offensive philosophies.

Shanahan is also a far superior head coach when it comes to working with the front office, maintaining a mature veteran locker room, interacting with the media, and as a teacher of strategic concepts. The Ws on Sunday are always the priority, but being an NFL head coach is far more than just that.

I will be very curious to see what Harbaugh does with the Chargers. He's got a great QB so he's got no excuses to hit the ground running. But he got let go at the perfect time for his image as an NFL HC.

Let go after an 8-8 season that can be blamed on injuries(even though the defense was the more injured one and still played at a high level) but we all knew the team was headed in the wrong direction. Some people claim some of the guys who retired would've stuck around if Harbaugh was the HC but I don't buy it.

Either way people caught up to our offense because Jim was too stubborn to change it up even though it was no longer working like it did in 2012/2013.

Meanwhile Kyle for all his faults had this team in 2 SBs and 2 other NFCCGs since the rebuild was completed after his first 2 seasons here. The one disaster was the covid year that was riddled with injuries to critical pieces and even then a 6-10 record was overachieving.

Colin was sorta-kinda like Kyle's Jimmy. Once both (Kaepernick and Garoppolo) got exposed by their limitations, it was game over for them.

I think Jim's QB with the Chargers might be sort of like Kyle's Brock Purdy. We shall see.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.

That's wide open in the NFL. The corner on him literally comes in on the blitz. He's open. Brock makes the right read and throws him the ball instead of going to JJ on the outside and unless BA drops it, it's a first down and we have at least 3 downs to milk the clock further before kicking the potential game winner.

Brock even said he should've thrown to Aiyuk. The film showed he should've thrown to Aiyuk but you're here saying "well maybe it wasn't what it seemed"

Come on...also it was 3rd and 5. The graphic on TV was wrong so the people claiming he should've ran it there and gone for it on 4th down are also full of it.

But from yours & NY's & others point of view, if the players do their job, the play works.

Well then, in that situation, if Kyle calls a running play for CMC, (offensive player of the year) & the players do their job, then that play works.

Are you saying that Kyle calls zero bad plays?
I love this argument about our head coach.

I think the truth is, if any of us saw our head coach, GM, or owner there would be nothing but love & respect. I don't think holding our guys accountable on a public forum is wrong or bad at all. You can almost say its part of the fans role.

As we creep into the start of the season I think its time to dump the past and head into this thing the right way. We can combine the past with this season once this season is in our rear view.

GO NINERS!!!! (Translation = Go COACH SHANAHAN, Go JOHN LYNCH, and Go JED YORK)

Hopefully the rookies are getting dialed in and we are prepping to hoist #6.
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.

That's wide open in the NFL. The corner on him literally comes in on the blitz. He's open. Brock makes the right read and throws him the ball instead of going to JJ on the outside and unless BA drops it, it's a first down and we have at least 3 downs to milk the clock further before kicking the potential game winner.

Brock even said he should've thrown to Aiyuk. The film showed he should've thrown to Aiyuk but you're here saying "well maybe it wasn't what it seemed"

Come on...also it was 3rd and 5. The graphic on TV was wrong so the people claiming he should've ran it there and gone for it on 4th down are also full of it.

But from yours & NY's & others point of view, if the players do their job, the play works.

Well then, in that situation, if Kyle calls a running play for CMC, (offensive player of the year) & the players do their job, then that play works.

Are you saying that Kyle calls zero bad plays?

No Kyle like every coach calls bad plays or plays that don't work well vs that defense from time to time.

But in that SB in the 4th qtr and OT there were no bad plays called by him that lost us that play due to scheme.

And yes CMC was the offensive player of the year…who had a critical fumble on the opening drive costing us points. CMC who was averaging under 4 yards a carry. So calling a run play on 3rd and 5 when your run game hasn't been at its best is not a smart coaching decision. 3rd and 5 is a pass down unless you're going for it on 4th down and I don't care what people want to say in hindsight, taking the 3 point lead was 100% the right call.

Every information Kyle had for his playcalls on offense said the Chiefs are not able to score a TD without a turnover handed to them within our 20 yard line.
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by FanInFlorida:
I'm not sure if everyone would agree that BA was "wide open". You're right, if you were to freeze the play at a certain point and take the bird's eye view (camera angle), you can draw a circle around him without any other players in it. On the surface, it looks wide open to us. But from Brock's perspective, didn't he have the blitzing corner right in his throwing lane? Maybe that's something up for debate. It looked to me like he was right in the throwing lane. And with it being a slant route, the trajectory of the pass would make it possible that the blitzer can get his hands on it. So he's still affecting the play, just not in the circle around BA.

The analogy I would use for this is soccer. If the keeper is in the middle of his net, the area to his right and to his left are "wide open". If you're taking a shot, you'll want to shoot at those open areas. But if there's a defender right in between you and one of the open areas, it will be hard to score. Not impossible, but it's certainly not easy.

I'm just saying that I think we had better plays in the playbook for that moment. Plays that stress defenders and put them in situations where they have to make a difficult decision in a short amount of time. It didn't look to me like any defender had to make a quick, difficult decision on that play.

That's wide open in the NFL. The corner on him literally comes in on the blitz. He's open. Brock makes the right read and throws him the ball instead of going to JJ on the outside and unless BA drops it, it's a first down and we have at least 3 downs to milk the clock further before kicking the potential game winner.

Brock even said he should've thrown to Aiyuk. The film showed he should've thrown to Aiyuk but you're here saying "well maybe it wasn't what it seemed"

Come on...also it was 3rd and 5. The graphic on TV was wrong so the people claiming he should've ran it there and gone for it on 4th down are also full of it.

But from yours & NY's & others point of view, if the players do their job, the play works.

Well then, in that situation, if Kyle calls a running play for CMC, (offensive player of the year) & the players do their job, then that play works.

Are you saying that Kyle calls zero bad plays?

No Kyle like every coach calls bad plays or plays that don't work well vs that defense from time to time.

But in that SB in the 4th qtr and OT there were no bad plays called by him that lost us that play due to scheme.

And yes CMC was the offensive player of the year…who had a critical fumble on the opening drive costing us points. CMC who was averaging under 4 yards a carry. So calling a run play on 3rd and 5 when your run game hasn't been at its best is not a smart coaching decision. 3rd and 5 is a pass down unless you're going for it on 4th down and I don't care what people want to say in hindsight, taking the 3 point lead was 100% the right call.

Every information Kyle had for his playcalls on offense said the Chiefs are not able to score a TD without a turnover handed to them within our 20 yard line.

BOTTOM LINE - just like the Bills pretty and very innovative K-GUN offense, it GOT them to FOUR Super Bowls... and Shanny's 2 away !!
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