49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

I think his ideal position on a coaching staff is offensive quality control. He can call plays too unless it's a close game in the 4th

he's a darn good HC. his defect is he can't coach the big game. the SB goes sideways on him more than basically any coach in SB history.
in September he can and does put on clinics. guys gotta make plays.

Idk man he does so much s*** that drives me crazy, even in a lot of wins. He did a great job putting the roster together, but his coaching is the reason they don't have a ring

Like not QB sneaking on 3rd and a foot yesterday. I was flipping the f**k out lol

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
MAKE this guy get an OC already!

What role does the OC serve here... what would his responsibilities be considering this team already has a run game coordinator and a pass game specialist?

Game day playcaller

So we need a different playcaller? Is that what the all 22 shows? That it's definitively the playcalling and not the execution?

If we do need one, then who would this playcaller be? Does he already know Kyle's offense or will he be learning it as we go?

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
MAKE this guy get an OC already!

The offense Is the least of worries Imo. The defense on the other hand.......

The offense is not an issue, correct, it's some decision making as head coach. Therefore make him get an OC it won't affect the offense, but he'll be able to manage the situations.

Decision time.
IMO, you don't remove a coach or player unless you have someone better to replace them.
Special Teams Coach Schneider. Who can we get to replace him? Absolutely a weakness.
WR Bell: I think he has talent that could be developed. But KS should never put him in when it's a crucial down. Put in Cowing ASAP.
RT McKivitz: He could be a good off the bench guy for a few plays. Biggest weakness on the OL and maybe the whole team.
DC: Maybe too early to conclude - BUT something isn't working at this time. And what is his sidekick doing??

KS better get this solved before it's too late.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Decision time.
IMO, you don't remove a coach or player unless you have someone better to replace them.
Special Teams Coach Schneider. Who can we get to replace him? Absolutely a weakness.
WR Bell: I think he has talent that could be developed. But KS should never put him in when it's a crucial down. Put in Cowing ASAP.
RT McKivitz: He could be a good off the bench guy for a few plays. Biggest weakness on the OL and maybe the whole team.
DC: Maybe too early to conclude - BUT something isn't working at this time. And what is his sidekick doing??

KS better get this solved before it's too late.

Brendel is bigger issue than Mckivitz as amazing as that is.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
MAKE this guy get an OC already!

What role does the OC serve here... what would his responsibilities be considering this team already has a run game coordinator and a pass game specialist?

Game day playcaller

So we need a different playcaller? Is that what the all 22 shows? That it's definitively the playcalling and not the execution?

If we do need one, then who would this playcaller be? Does he already know Kyle's offense or will he be learning it as we go?

Should have been addressed in the offseason rather than mid-season this year. Could have promoted Kubiak instead of losing him to the Saints.

There's something that bothers me a little about Kyle in the post game interviews. He often responds to a question about a specific play by saying he didn't see the play. He says the same about a players performance. He'll say from what he saw or I have to look at the film. (shades of Mike Singletary). I don't recall Walsh ever answering questions that way. It makes me wonder if Kyle is too involved in calling the next play or series to actually see what's happening on the field.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
There's something that bothers me a little about Kyle in the post game interviews. He often responds to a question about a specific play by saying he didn't see the play. He says the same about a players performance. He'll say from what he saw or I have to look at the film. (shades of Mike Singletary). I don't recall Walsh ever answering questions that way. It makes me wonder if Kyle is too involved in calling the next play or series to actually see what's happening on the field.

the media is one big gotcha, no benefit to say anything of substance there, like JP week 1

it's a game of talking a lot while saying nothing, if played correctly. if played incorrectly you end up making the viral rounds. they'll try to jab you after a tough L

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Kyle is the type of coach who will hypnotize TV commentators and fans with fancy shifts, motions and moving around. But when the chips are on the line he is just a disaster. No situational awareness, game management, time management, personnel decisions (Bell over Cowing... ), killer instinct, close out games, repeated collapses at the end, completely ignoring offensive line for years. Just all the stuff you really need to win in the NFL. Especially the big ones. He has cute motions and shifts. But closing out a game is not about that. He doesn't know how to. Maybe he should ask Andy Reid how.

Those three are long-standing fair criticisms of Shanahan. Going back to Atlanta in the Super Bowl where his play calling at the end cost Atlanta a Lombardi, he still makes the same mistakes now. On the last drive, instead of short passes with a high probability of completions and running the clock down, he is calling deep drops that put more pressure on the OL and lower completion percentages that left LA with plenty of time to go down the field and win the game.

Yes, Moody missed a long kick but the strategy should have been to grind out the time and make a short kick, if not a TD. That is the Shanahan failure in time management once again.

Oh man you opened a can of worms with the Shanapostles lol

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
MAKE this guy get an OC already!

What role does the OC serve here... what would his responsibilities be considering this team already has a run game coordinator and a pass game specialist?

Game day playcaller

So we need a different playcaller? Is that what the all 22 shows? That it's definitively the playcalling and not the execution?

If we do need one, then who would this playcaller be? Does he already know Kyle's offense or will he be learning it as we go?

Should have been addressed in the offseason rather than mid-season this year. Could have promoted Kubiak instead of losing him to the Saints.

You didn't answer the first question... guessing because you have not watched the all 22. So let's be honest here, you can't say with absolute certainty that play calling is our issue, you are assuming.

And how does one know the Kubiak would be as good if not better than Kyle as a play caller? He's but 3 games into his first stint as play caller.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Decision time.
IMO, you don't remove a coach or player unless you have someone better to replace them.
Special Teams Coach Schneider. Who can we get to replace him? Absolutely a weakness.
WR Bell: I think he has talent that could be developed. But KS should never put him in when it's a crucial down. Put in Cowing ASAP.
RT McKivitz: He could be a good off the bench guy for a few plays. Biggest weakness on the OL and maybe the whole team.
DC: Maybe too early to conclude - BUT something isn't working at this time. And what is his sidekick doing??

KS better get this solved before it's too late.

Brendel is bigger issue than Mckivitz as amazing as that is.

They're both really bad. Mckivitz is leading the league in pressures given up.

One thing I notice about this team and Kyle is that the losses compound under him. He doesn't know how to right the ship after a 1 or 2 game streak. It's typically abysmal for 1-3 weeks and then something ends up sparking them. We don't have a bye week for a while this time to help us. He needs to figure out how to motivate these guys so it doesn't turn into a 3rd loss.

Now with that being said, even the worst version of the Niners should beat the Patriots. So I expect a win for sure. It's the weeks after I'm worried about

I can see now how CMC covered a lot of issues/flaws

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
MAKE this guy get an OC already!

What role does the OC serve here... what would his responsibilities be considering this team already has a run game coordinator and a pass game specialist?

Game day playcaller

So we need a different playcaller? Is that what the all 22 shows? That it's definitively the playcalling and not the execution?

If we do need one, then who would this playcaller be? Does he already know Kyle's offense or will he be learning it as we go?

Should have been addressed in the offseason rather than mid-season this year. Could have promoted Kubiak instead of losing him to the Saints.

You didn't answer the first question... guessing because you have not watched the all 22. So let's be honest here, you can't say with absolute certainty that play calling is our issue, you are assuming.

And how does one know the Kubiak would be as good if not better than Kyle as a play caller? He's but 3 games into his first stint as play caller.

We played with the lead the entire game and Kyren Williams had more carries than Jordan Mason. If that doesn't scream play calling to you then we can agree to disagree.