49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Guys there's a reason Kyle has made a name for himself as an all time choker. There is no amount of projecting onto other coaches that will change that. There's a difference between losing and choking. You'd think Kyle would be able to manage one of these leads to championship by now. He's had too many leads to not be able to get it done. The label he gets is fair, and he will be #1 all time choker if he never gets it done. He has the resume already

It's not projecting it's calling out hypothetical bull s**t in here.

you can't run in here saying Jim is an amazing HC and shouldn't have been fired….then say Kyle should be fired because he choked.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
This is 100% correct.

Jim is a choker! Lost multiple NFCC and a SB when he was here.


until you admit that, you're stance on Kyle is meaningless

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I live in reality. If it's negative so be it. Im not dense enough to join the crowd bashing Belichick because they can't stand what Kyle's become. To me the answer is Kyle get better, not bash other coaches

i say you are your record. he's .554 and .667 in playoffs. he's from the SF tree we won in 94 with Mike Shanny. and Ed McCaffrey and that gang. Ed went on to DEN with Brian Griese and John Lynch. he's putting his heart into giving us wins each week. let's show some respect at least and i don't get mid week criticism. let's watch the game first.

can't believe some people want to act as this is easy.. resurrecting a fallen Org, Rebuilding a roster, making the playoffs, winning in the playoffs..

on top of that, he took two different 49er teams to the SB

The last 4 years it's been mostly just two teams at the top Chefs and the 49ers with KC getting the favorable ball bounces

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

It's not the players. It's him. It's his offense not having an answer for pass only situations. It's not focusing on closing our games. It's not enough prep for 2 minute anc no huddle. It's passing all 2nd half when you're up 28-3. It's running the clock down before half time and losing the chance at scoring. He's the common denominator in all of it, but he gets the pass lol. It's on him

You're exaggerating his warts, like clock management and his drop back game sometimes failing to provide easy answers against heavy pressure looks.

You can turn on the film from both SB's, especially the first one, and see multiple mistakes by the players (particularly the QB).

It's absurd to hold it against Shanahan that he was able to drag Jimmy G to a SB and then blame him when Jimmy G plays like Jimmy G, for example.

Imo the defense and Mostert dragged Jimmy to the SB. It's not like Kyle was making Jimmy look good in the playoffs. They got the matchups to hide Jimmy, but that doesn't make Kyle amazing. They just ran the ball

You can't just excuse him in all these choke jobs. It's his lack of overall preparation for these moments that kill him. You'll find execution problems on all SB teams, even the winners. That's not an excuse for choking to the magnitude Kyle has

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This is the guy that didn't know what to do on a final drive. He is the reason his teams ALWAYS fall short

4 NFCCG 2 SB is equal to always falling short… that doesn't make any sense

If you don't win the SB with the best roster, you fell short. He's now squandered that best roster opportunity. Thankfully he fell ass backwards into a fqb

Ok...let's get this s**t out of here. In a week to week game, what made the 49ers roster better than KC?

OC: Split
QB: Chiefs
RB: 49ers
WR: 49ers
TE: Split
LT: 49ers
LG: Chiefs
C: Chiefs
RG: Chiefs
RT: Chiefs

RDE: 49ers
LDE: Chiefs
DT: Chiefs
DT: 49ers
SLB: Chiefs
MLB: 49ers
WLB: 49ers
CB: Chiefs
CB: Chiefs
FS: Chiefs
SS: Chiefs
DC: Chiefs

K:Chiefs

Even if you think CB1/CB2 could be split since Ward had a hell of a season when you dig into it...the Chiefs arguably had more talent, certainly by the later stages of that game after Greenlaw and Feliciano injuries than we did.

Our "most talented roster" thing all came down because of the skill players on offense and the big names on defense. But fact is the Chiefs defense was much better as a unit with better coaching to go with it. And when it came down to it, our biggest weakness - OL, became an even bigger problem with Feliciano's injury.

So that's how the "best roster" loses a game.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's not projecting it's calling out hypothetical bull s**t in here.

you can't run in here saying Jim is an amazing HC and shouldn't have been fired….then say Kyle should be fired because he choked.

I never said Kyle should be fired. Just pointed out why he hasn't gotten it done. I want him to improve in those areas, not get fired

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's not the players. It's him. It's his offense not having an answer for pass only situations. It's not focusing on closing out games. It's not enough prep for 2 minute and no huddle. It's passing all 2nd half when you're up 28-3. It's running the clock down before half time and losing the chance at scoring. He's the common denominator in all of it, but he gets the pass lol. It's on him

Kyle and Brock have scored more ppg than any combo thru their first 25 games….in NFL history.

What Jim's problem for choking away NFCC and a SB? What was Reid's problem for being regarded as the ultimate choker for two decades?

So what Dan Quinn, you know the HEAD COACH had zero input on how to run his team during the Super Bowl? Just more nonsense to try and keep and horrible take going

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
This is 100% correct.

Jim is a choker! Lost multiple NFCC and a SB when he was here.


until you admit that, you're stance on Kyle is meaningless

Is it really choking if you never see a lead in the SB?

But Jim is a winner though...

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's not the players. It's him. It's his offense not having an answer for pass only situations. It's not focusing on closing our games. It's not enough prep for 2 minute anc no huddle. It's passing all 2nd half when you're up 28-3. It's running the clock down before half time and losing the chance at scoring. He's the common denominator in all of it, but he gets the pass lol. It's on him

You're exaggerating his warts, like clock management and his drop back game sometimes failing to provide easy answers against heavy pressure looks.

You can turn on the film from both SB's, especially the first one, and see multiple mistakes by the players (particularly the QB).

It's absurd to hold it against Shanahan that he was able to drag Jimmy G to a SB and then blame him when Jimmy G plays like Jimmy G, for example.

Imo the defense and Mostert dragged Jimmy to the SB. It's not like Kyle was making Jimmy look good in the playoffs. They got the matchups to hide Jimmy, but that doesn't make Kyle amazing. They just ran the ball

You can't just excuse him in all these choke jobs. It's his lack of overall preparation for these moments that kill him. You'll find execution problems on all SB teams, even the winners. That's not an excuse for choking to the magnitude Kyle has

lol this day in age of football if you can hide the QB and make the SB.. that is amazing

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
This is 100% correct.

Jim is a choker! Lost multiple NFCC and a SB when he was here.


until you admit that, you're stance on Kyle is meaningless

Is it really choking if you never see a lead in the SB?

But Jim is a winner though...

Losing is losing. Having the superior team and choking to Joe Flacco is the head coaches fault and no one else's. That's the rules in here. He's the only one responsible for W/L

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's not projecting it's calling out hypothetical bull s**t in here.

you can't run in here saying Jim is an amazing HC and shouldn't have been fired….then say Kyle should be fired because he choked.

I never said Kyle should be fired. Just pointed out why he hasn't gotten it done. I want him to improve in those areas, not get fired

i haven't seen any points..

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
If you don't win the SB with the best roster, you fell short. He's now squandered that best roster opportunity. Thankfully he fell ass backwards into a fqb

So did Jim…choked it away. Right?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
This is 100% correct.

Jim is a choker! Lost multiple NFCC and a SB when he was here.


until you admit that, you're stance on Kyle is meaningless

Is it really choking if you never see a lead in the SB?

But Jim is a winner though...

Losing is losing. Having the superior team and choking to Joe Flacco is the head coaches fault and no one else's. That's the rules in here. He's the only one responsible for W/L

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Jim is entertaining as hell but I don't think I can ever forgive him for blowing that game so much. What he did in that game 100% merits the choking label for a HC a LOT more than what Kyle has done in his SBs.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
This is 100% correct.

Jim is a choker! Lost multiple NFCC and a SB when he was here.


until you admit that, you're stance on Kyle is meaningless

Is it really choking if you never see a lead in the SB?

But Jim is a winner though...

That's right. Shany is the CHOKER. Had 3 solid leads in the Super Bowl and lost them all.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Imo the defense and Mostert dragged Jimmy to the SB. It's not like Kyle was making Jimmy look good in the playoffs. They got the matchups to hide Jimmy, but that doesn't make Kyle amazing. They just ran the ball

You can't just excuse him in all these choke jobs. It's his lack of overall preparation for these moments that kill him. You'll find execution problems on all SB teams, even the winners. That's not an excuse for choking to the magnitude Kyle has

So getting to a Super Bowl with a backup level QB is good coaching right? Half of you in here thought Jimmy was a legit starting QB. Some had him top 10 in the league lol.

how do you excuse all of Harbs choke jobs? Did nothing big lose when it matter when he was here.