Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Is Andy Reid a great coach? I would say yes but he got run out of Philly because people thought he couldn't win the big games. What changed? He got Mahomes. If Kyle had Mahomes instead of JG or Brock they may have 3 more rings. I know that you're probably going to say he could have drafted him but Mahomes wasn't the same guy when he came out of college. He didn't go #1 overall. He sat for a year behind an experienced Alex Smith. He developed rather than being thrown into the fire.
I don't see Mahomes as the difference. I just think Andy's got to have it plays are better. Their success in the RZ against us and even the Eagles was all Andy. Watch Kelce on Hardmans game winner. He's just watching the Jumbotron lol. That was all Andy
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Sucks doesn't it? I gave him more of a pass for the Jimmy one, but he still had a 10 point lead with the better roster and 7 minutes left
Is Andy Reid a great coach? I would say yes but he got run out of Philly because people thought he couldn't win the big games. What changed? He got Mahomes. If Kyle had Mahomes instead of JG or Brock they may have 3 more rings. I know that you're probably going to say he could have drafted him but Mahomes wasn't the same guy when he came out of college. He didn't go #1 overall. He sat for a year behind an experienced Alex Smith. He developed rather than being thrown into the fire.
I don't see Mahomes as the difference. I just think Andy's got to have it plays are better. Their success in the RZ against us and even the Eagles was all Andy. Watch Kelce on Hardmans game winner. He's just watching the Jumbotron lol. That was all Andy
😂
Sucks doesn't it? I gave him more of a pass for the Jimmy one, but he still had a 10 point lead with the better roster and 7 minutes left
This last one he got outcoached. Badly
I was laughing at your dumb post lol
Andy's playcalls in crunch time are better than Kyles. Nothing dumb about it. The Mahomes keeper on 4th, Skyy Moore td, Hardman td. That is all Andy
For all the Shanahan apologists, this is a great video on how Kyle fails as a coach. Just scroll to the 12 minute mark and start watching. It goes over the epic 28-3 collapse of the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. It's amazing because the same offensive mistakes Kyle made being up 28-3 with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter….reared their ugly head a few years later in the SB and again last year. Watching this video, sure…the Kyle fans will point to player mistakes and missed assignments. But the creator does a great job of stating that Kyle put the team in a position to lose. His inept offensive play calls not only slowed the offense, but forced a defense that was playing brilliantly to tire out, commit mistakes, and overall lose the game. You realize after watching the video that it's easy to blame Jimmy, or Wilks, or the refs, or a missed assignment on the oline, etc. But in reality, a failed coach that misjudged the situation and overplayed his cards is why we lost 2 Super Bowls in 5 years, and why Kyle is 0-3.
How many superbowls have you won?
Its just lazy to criticize from the couch.
Watch the video. The trend in all 3 Super Bowls are eerily similar. Kyle's inability to seize the moment led to all 3 losses, but his ineptness was diluted because it was easy to blame other facets of the game eg penalties, missed plays, refs, quarterbacks. But you can see in that video that even with a well oiled machine clicking on all cylinders, Kyle found a way to keep the team from closing it out.
its quite damning…
It just shows how the Falcons defense couldn't stop Brady to save their lives. You try to reach with your T-rex arms but you still can't get it!!! Lol
You didn't watch the video. It explains how the Atlanta defense collapsed in the 2nd half. Knowing Brady was great at attacking zone, the Falcons played man on D throughout the game. It led to a 21-0 halftime lead and 28-3 lead halfway through the third quarter.
As the video points out, however, is that man defense leads to more fatigue. And NE had over 90 snaps on offense that game, whereas on avg team has 60-70 snaps on offense typically. They got carved up because Kyle did not adjust in the second half. Instead of going to a run heavy offense to milk clock he continued to play pass. That led to play clock stops, PENALTIES, missed assignments, and at the end Atlanta's defense could not adjust.
Kyle's mismanagement of the offensive playcalling directly lead to Atlanta's collapse on both offense and defense. The most egregious of this is showcased on that last drive when Atlanta is in FG range up by 8 points and Kyle called a pass play which led to a sack and put Atlanta out of FG range. Now tell me that was Matt Ryan's fault, not Kyle for calling that play in that situation…
Lol that's what you got out of that video.
And of course you would!!!!
You didn't watch. Lazy.
It's a crap video and it doesn't surprise me that you posted it. Tell me this, why didn't Dan Quinn stop Shanahan from passing the ball, after all he is the head coach right? You expect me to believe that Quinn gave Shanahan full control over the offense no matter the situation? And if Kyle went to heavy run and it didn't work, either way you people would be blaming him.
For all the Shanahan apologists, this is a great video on how Kyle fails as a coach. Just scroll to the 12 minute mark and start watching. It goes over the epic 28-3 collapse of the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. It's amazing because the same offensive mistakes Kyle made being up 28-3 with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter….reared their ugly head a few years later in the SB and again last year. Watching this video, sure…the Kyle fans will point to player mistakes and missed assignments. But the creator does a great job of stating that Kyle put the team in a position to lose. His inept offensive play calls not only slowed the offense, but forced a defense that was playing brilliantly to tire out, commit mistakes, and overall lose the game. You realize after watching the video that it's easy to blame Jimmy, or Wilks, or the refs, or a missed assignment on the oline, etc. But in reality, a failed coach that misjudged the situation and overplayed his cards is why we lost 2 Super Bowls in 5 years, and why Kyle is 0-3.
How many superbowls have you won?
Its just lazy to criticize from the couch.
Watch the video. The trend in all 3 Super Bowls are eerily similar. Kyle's inability to seize the moment led to all 3 losses, but his ineptness was diluted because it was easy to blame other facets of the game eg penalties, missed plays, refs, quarterbacks. But you can see in that video that even with a well oiled machine clicking on all cylinders, Kyle found a way to keep the team from closing it out.
its quite damning…
It just shows how the Falcons defense couldn't stop Brady to save their lives. You try to reach with your T-rex arms but you still can't get it!!! Lol
You didn't watch the video. It explains how the Atlanta defense collapsed in the 2nd half. Knowing Brady was great at attacking zone, the Falcons played man on D throughout the game. It led to a 21-0 halftime lead and 28-3 lead halfway through the third quarter.
As the video points out, however, is that man defense leads to more fatigue. And NE had over 90 snaps on offense that game, whereas on avg team has 60-70 snaps on offense typically. They got carved up because Kyle did not adjust in the second half. Instead of going to a run heavy offense to milk clock he continued to play pass. That led to play clock stops, PENALTIES, missed assignments, and at the end Atlanta's defense could not adjust.
Kyle's mismanagement of the offensive playcalling directly lead to Atlanta's collapse on both offense and defense. The most egregious of this is showcased on that last drive when Atlanta is in FG range up by 8 points and Kyle called a pass play which led to a sack and put Atlanta out of FG range. Now tell me that was Matt Ryan's fault, not Kyle for calling that play in that situation…
Lol that's what you got out of that video.
And of course you would!!!!
You didn't watch. Lazy.
It's a crap video and it doesn't surprise me that you posted it. Tell me this, why didn't Dan Quinn stop Shanahan from passing the ball, after all he is the head coach right? You expect me to believe that Quinn gave Shanahan full control over the offense no matter the situation? And if Kyle went to heavy run and it didn't work, either way you people would be blaming him.
I don't know why Dan Quinn didn't stop him. You'd have to ask him. Maybe because he's a defensive coach and put his trust into his offensive coordinator's hands. And no need to go into hypotheticals. You keep going into "if" "if" "if". I have 3 SBs to prove that there was no "if", because Shanahan failed to adjust all 3 times.
"Gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's [Garoppolo] hands. I hate to say this. I hate to say it. Our gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's hand. But Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. But for some reason in the 4th quarter they stopped running the ball and we kind of took over a little bit.
I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."
For all the Shanahan apologists, this is a great video on how Kyle fails as a coach. Just scroll to the 12 minute mark and start watching. It goes over the epic 28-3 collapse of the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. It's amazing because the same offensive mistakes Kyle made being up 28-3 with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter….reared their ugly head a few years later in the SB and again last year. Watching this video, sure…the Kyle fans will point to player mistakes and missed assignments. But the creator does a great job of stating that Kyle put the team in a position to lose. His inept offensive play calls not only slowed the offense, but forced a defense that was playing brilliantly to tire out, commit mistakes, and overall lose the game. You realize after watching the video that it's easy to blame Jimmy, or Wilks, or the refs, or a missed assignment on the oline, etc. But in reality, a failed coach that misjudged the situation and overplayed his cards is why we lost 2 Super Bowls in 5 years, and why Kyle is 0-3.
How many superbowls have you won?
Its just lazy to criticize from the couch.
Watch the video. The trend in all 3 Super Bowls are eerily similar. Kyle's inability to seize the moment led to all 3 losses, but his ineptness was diluted because it was easy to blame other facets of the game eg penalties, missed plays, refs, quarterbacks. But you can see in that video that even with a well oiled machine clicking on all cylinders, Kyle found a way to keep the team from closing it out.
its quite damning…
It just shows how the Falcons defense couldn't stop Brady to save their lives. You try to reach with your T-rex arms but you still can't get it!!! Lol
You didn't watch the video. It explains how the Atlanta defense collapsed in the 2nd half. Knowing Brady was great at attacking zone, the Falcons played man on D throughout the game. It led to a 21-0 halftime lead and 28-3 lead halfway through the third quarter.
As the video points out, however, is that man defense leads to more fatigue. And NE had over 90 snaps on offense that game, whereas on avg team has 60-70 snaps on offense typically. They got carved up because Kyle did not adjust in the second half. Instead of going to a run heavy offense to milk clock he continued to play pass. That led to play clock stops, PENALTIES, missed assignments, and at the end Atlanta's defense could not adjust.
Kyle's mismanagement of the offensive playcalling directly lead to Atlanta's collapse on both offense and defense. The most egregious of this is showcased on that last drive when Atlanta is in FG range up by 8 points and Kyle called a pass play which led to a sack and put Atlanta out of FG range. Now tell me that was Matt Ryan's fault, not Kyle for calling that play in that situation…
Lol that's what you got out of that video.
And of course you would!!!!
You didn't watch. Lazy.
It's a crap video and it doesn't surprise me that you posted it. Tell me this, why didn't Dan Quinn stop Shanahan from passing the ball, after all he is the head coach right? You expect me to believe that Quinn gave Shanahan full control over the offense no matter the situation? And if Kyle went to heavy run and it didn't work, either way you people would be blaming him.
I don't know why Dan Quinn didn't stop him. You'd have to ask him. Maybe because he's a defensive coach and put his trust into his offensive coordinator's hands. And no need to go into hypotheticals. You keep going into "if" "if" "if". I have 3 SBs to prove that there was no "if", because Shanahan failed to adjust all 3 times.
"Gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's [Garoppolo] hands. I hate to say this. I hate to say it. Our gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's hand. But Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. But for some reason in the 4th quarter they stopped running the ball and we kind of took over a little bit.
I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."
-Charvarius Ward
So you tell me I keep going "if if if" but you don't know why Dan Quinn didn't stop Kyle, aren't you doing the same thing then!!!
And going off your two quotes, you're telling me Shanahan did in fact adjust, I keep hearing Shanahan doesn't?
But why did Shanahan go to the pass and stop running the ball, did you even watch the Super Bowl, 49ers had to start passing when KC starting scoring in the 4th quarter. Why would he stick with the run?
For all the Shanahan apologists, this is a great video on how Kyle fails as a coach. Just scroll to the 12 minute mark and start watching. It goes over the epic 28-3 collapse of the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. It's amazing because the same offensive mistakes Kyle made being up 28-3 with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter….reared their ugly head a few years later in the SB and again last year. Watching this video, sure…the Kyle fans will point to player mistakes and missed assignments. But the creator does a great job of stating that Kyle put the team in a position to lose. His inept offensive play calls not only slowed the offense, but forced a defense that was playing brilliantly to tire out, commit mistakes, and overall lose the game. You realize after watching the video that it's easy to blame Jimmy, or Wilks, or the refs, or a missed assignment on the oline, etc. But in reality, a failed coach that misjudged the situation and overplayed his cards is why we lost 2 Super Bowls in 5 years, and why Kyle is 0-3.
How many superbowls have you won?
Its just lazy to criticize from the couch.
Watch the video. The trend in all 3 Super Bowls are eerily similar. Kyle's inability to seize the moment led to all 3 losses, but his ineptness was diluted because it was easy to blame other facets of the game eg penalties, missed plays, refs, quarterbacks. But you can see in that video that even with a well oiled machine clicking on all cylinders, Kyle found a way to keep the team from closing it out.
its quite damning…
It just shows how the Falcons defense couldn't stop Brady to save their lives. You try to reach with your T-rex arms but you still can't get it!!! Lol
You didn't watch the video. It explains how the Atlanta defense collapsed in the 2nd half. Knowing Brady was great at attacking zone, the Falcons played man on D throughout the game. It led to a 21-0 halftime lead and 28-3 lead halfway through the third quarter.
As the video points out, however, is that man defense leads to more fatigue. And NE had over 90 snaps on offense that game, whereas on avg team has 60-70 snaps on offense typically. They got carved up because Kyle did not adjust in the second half. Instead of going to a run heavy offense to milk clock he continued to play pass. That led to play clock stops, PENALTIES, missed assignments, and at the end Atlanta's defense could not adjust.
Kyle's mismanagement of the offensive playcalling directly lead to Atlanta's collapse on both offense and defense. The most egregious of this is showcased on that last drive when Atlanta is in FG range up by 8 points and Kyle called a pass play which led to a sack and put Atlanta out of FG range. Now tell me that was Matt Ryan's fault, not Kyle for calling that play in that situation…
Lol that's what you got out of that video.
And of course you would!!!!
You didn't watch. Lazy.
It's a crap video and it doesn't surprise me that you posted it. Tell me this, why didn't Dan Quinn stop Shanahan from passing the ball, after all he is the head coach right? You expect me to believe that Quinn gave Shanahan full control over the offense no matter the situation? And if Kyle went to heavy run and it didn't work, either way you people would be blaming him.
I don't know why Dan Quinn didn't stop him. You'd have to ask him. Maybe because he's a defensive coach and put his trust into his offensive coordinator's hands. And no need to go into hypotheticals. You keep going into "if" "if" "if". I have 3 SBs to prove that there was no "if", because Shanahan failed to adjust all 3 times.
"Gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's [Garoppolo] hands. I hate to say this. I hate to say it. Our gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's hand. But Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. But for some reason in the 4th quarter they stopped running the ball and we kind of took over a little bit.
I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."
-Charvarius Ward
So you tell me I keep going "if if if" but you don't know why Dan Quinn didn't stop Kyle, aren't you doing the same thing then!!!
And going off your two quotes, you're telling me Shanahan did in fact adjust, I keep hearing Shanahan doesn't?
But why did Shanahan go to the pass and stop running the ball, did you even watch the Super Bowl, 49ers had to start passing when KC starting scoring in the 4th quarter. Why would he stick with the run?
lolwut? I went to pass when he should have stuck with the run. That's not "adjusting". That's mismanaging. Adjusting means tuning your offensive scheme based on game situation. It's not just changing as you're trying to imply. In all 3 SBs Kyle Shanahan failed to adjust according to the situation. Now whether that means not changing the playbook as the game progressed or changing it to a scheme that was wrong…is irrelevant. He botched. Watch the video. Then read Ward's comments. Two different games. Two different examples of gross mismanagement. Two SB losses.
I know it's a tough pill to swallow by some of you Kyle apologists, but the proof is right there in front of of you…
For all the Shanahan apologists, this is a great video on how Kyle fails as a coach. Just scroll to the 12 minute mark and start watching. It goes over the epic 28-3 collapse of the Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. It's amazing because the same offensive mistakes Kyle made being up 28-3 with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter….reared their ugly head a few years later in the SB and again last year. Watching this video, sure…the Kyle fans will point to player mistakes and missed assignments. But the creator does a great job of stating that Kyle put the team in a position to lose. His inept offensive play calls not only slowed the offense, but forced a defense that was playing brilliantly to tire out, commit mistakes, and overall lose the game. You realize after watching the video that it's easy to blame Jimmy, or Wilks, or the refs, or a missed assignment on the oline, etc. But in reality, a failed coach that misjudged the situation and overplayed his cards is why we lost 2 Super Bowls in 5 years, and why Kyle is 0-3.
How many superbowls have you won?
Its just lazy to criticize from the couch.
Watch the video. The trend in all 3 Super Bowls are eerily similar. Kyle's inability to seize the moment led to all 3 losses, but his ineptness was diluted because it was easy to blame other facets of the game eg penalties, missed plays, refs, quarterbacks. But you can see in that video that even with a well oiled machine clicking on all cylinders, Kyle found a way to keep the team from closing it out.
its quite damning…
It just shows how the Falcons defense couldn't stop Brady to save their lives. You try to reach with your T-rex arms but you still can't get it!!! Lol
You didn't watch the video. It explains how the Atlanta defense collapsed in the 2nd half. Knowing Brady was great at attacking zone, the Falcons played man on D throughout the game. It led to a 21-0 halftime lead and 28-3 lead halfway through the third quarter.
As the video points out, however, is that man defense leads to more fatigue. And NE had over 90 snaps on offense that game, whereas on avg team has 60-70 snaps on offense typically. They got carved up because Kyle did not adjust in the second half. Instead of going to a run heavy offense to milk clock he continued to play pass. That led to play clock stops, PENALTIES, missed assignments, and at the end Atlanta's defense could not adjust.
Kyle's mismanagement of the offensive playcalling directly lead to Atlanta's collapse on both offense and defense. The most egregious of this is showcased on that last drive when Atlanta is in FG range up by 8 points and Kyle called a pass play which led to a sack and put Atlanta out of FG range. Now tell me that was Matt Ryan's fault, not Kyle for calling that play in that situation…
Lol that's what you got out of that video.
And of course you would!!!!
You didn't watch. Lazy.
It's a crap video and it doesn't surprise me that you posted it. Tell me this, why didn't Dan Quinn stop Shanahan from passing the ball, after all he is the head coach right? You expect me to believe that Quinn gave Shanahan full control over the offense no matter the situation? And if Kyle went to heavy run and it didn't work, either way you people would be blaming him.
I don't know why Dan Quinn didn't stop him. You'd have to ask him. Maybe because he's a defensive coach and put his trust into his offensive coordinator's hands. And no need to go into hypotheticals. You keep going into "if" "if" "if". I have 3 SBs to prove that there was no "if", because Shanahan failed to adjust all 3 times.
"Gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's [Garoppolo] hands. I hate to say this. I hate to say it. Our gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's hand. But Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. But for some reason in the 4th quarter they stopped running the ball and we kind of took over a little bit.
I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."
-Charvarius Ward
So you tell me I keep going "if if if" but you don't know why Dan Quinn didn't stop Kyle, aren't you doing the same thing then!!!
And going off your two quotes, you're telling me Shanahan did in fact adjust, I keep hearing Shanahan doesn't?
But why did Shanahan go to the pass and stop running the ball, did you even watch the Super Bowl, 49ers had to start passing when KC starting scoring in the 4th quarter. Why would he stick with the run?
lolwut? I went to pass when he should have stuck with the run. That's not "adjusting". That's mismanaging. Adjusting means tuning your offensive scheme based on game situation. It's not just changing as you're trying to imply. In all 3 SBs Kyle Shanahan failed to adjust according to the situation. Now whether that means not changing the playbook as the game progressed or changing it to a scheme that was wrong…is irrelevant. He botched. Watch the video. Then read Ward's comments. Two different games. Two different examples of gross mismanagement. Two SB losses.
I know it's a tough pill to swallow by some of you Kyle apologists, but the proof is right there in front of of you…
So now you're taking Wards comments and running with it. Obviously his comment is taking outta context, no way should he have stuck with the run when KC was scoring and the game close. It was 20-10 going into the 4th quarter with 8:53 left and then from there on KC scored 14 unanswered, how do you still run it when the score is 24-20? Obviously, Wards comments were taking outta context because Shanahan did in fact call 4 runs that pretty much did nothing, then came the penalties and no-calls on the 49ers. And to your benefit leave all that out.
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
You know you should actually read the whole piece that was done by bleachers. It is prophetic. But the apologists will continue to apologize.
