49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

Originally posted by Schulzy:
Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Who cares? They have done that in previous seasons and still either made a Superbowl or NFC title game. Not every game is going to be a blow out. KC is 9-0 and could only score 16 points against Denver. And last week was getting outplayed by Tampa before eking it out on OT.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

Fire the defensive coordinator
Fire the special teams coordinator
Fire the offensive line coach
Fire the defensive line coach

Fire everyone except the common denominator to all those coaches: the HEAD coach. Because when it comes to the head coach, it's the players fault.

Shanaexcuses

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

Fire the defensive coordinator
Fire the special teams coordinator
Fire the offensive line coach
Fire the defensive line coach

Fire everyone except the common denominator to all those coaches: the HEAD coach. Because when it comes to the head coach, it's the players fault.

Shanaexcuses

Shanahan has shown when he has competent coordinators he can take this team far, you know the Super Bowl twice, NFCC four times. Shanahan has his faults, but it doesn't require for him to be fired. Unlike you, I'm not a bandwagon fan that wants the head coach fired every other season.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

Fire the defensive coordinator
Fire the special teams coordinator
Fire the offensive line coach
Fire the defensive line coach

Fire everyone except the common denominator to all those coaches: the HEAD coach. Because when it comes to the head coach, it's the players fault.

Shanaexcuses

Shanahan has shown when he has competent coordinators he can take this team far, you know the Super Bowl twice, NFCC four times. Shanahan has his faults, but it doesn't require for him to be fired. Unlike you, I'm not a bandwagon fan that wants the head coach fired every other season.

I don't doubt that changing DCs as often as they have has an effect on how well they're playing. Add that to the fact that they're missing Hargrave and Greenlaw and you get a below average defense. Lot's of new faces on the D line. I would also like to see them change the style of defense.The wide 9 is supposed to help the edge rushers but it's not producing a lot of sacks. What it is doing is providing bigger gaps for teams to run through. Without Greenlaw to help fill those gaps teams are running consistently on this team. Not every week but enough to keep drives alive.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

I wanted to be mad at Sorensen yesterday, but we allowed only 215 total yards. That's despite the fact that Bosa wasn't effective while hurt, Ward was out, and Green had to leave the game too.

The only reason that game was even close was special teams. Tampa had crazy starting field position almost all game due to our special teams gaffes.

Luter gifted Tampa 7 points.
Moody left 9 points off the board. Without those mistakes, we would've blown them out probably 29-10. Schneider needs to go. If guys keep making the same mistakes, he's clearly not coaching them right.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

Fire the defensive coordinator
Fire the special teams coordinator
Fire the offensive line coach
Fire the defensive line coach

Fire everyone except the common denominator to all those coaches: the HEAD coach. Because when it comes to the head coach, it's the players fault.

Shanaexcuses

Shanahan has shown when he has competent coordinators he can take this team far, you know the Super Bowl twice, NFCC four times. Shanahan has his faults, but it doesn't require for him to be fired. Unlike you, I'm not a bandwagon fan that wants the head coach fired every other season.

I don't doubt that changing DCs as often as they have has an effect on how well they're playing. Add that to the fact that they're missing Hargrave and Greenlaw and you get a below average defense. Lot's of new faces on the D line. I would also like to see them change the style of defense.The wide 9 is supposed to help the edge rushers but it's not producing a lot of sacks. What it is doing is providing bigger gaps for teams to run through. Without Greenlaw to help fill those gaps teams are running consistently on this team. Not every week but enough to keep drives alive.

I don't disagree with you at all. In a lot of ways I'd like to scrap the wide 9 too for the reason you mentioned. But for a long time with the wide 9 the 49ers have been one of the top defenses against the run. But for some reason with Sorensen, they just look undisciplined and whiff on so many tackles. Honestly, I don't think Fred Warner is having a good season at all, he's missed a ton of tackles and struggled in coverage. This isn't the attacking defense Sorensen has been preaching, far from it, this is more like the pray-we don't f**k up-defense.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

I wanted to be mad at Sorensen yesterday, but we allowed only 215 total yards. That's despite the fact that Bosa wasn't effective while hurt, Ward was out, and Green had to leave the game too.

The only reason that game was even close was special teams. Tampa had crazy starting field position almost all game due to our special teams gaffes.

Luter gifted Tampa 7 points.
Moody left 9 points off the board. Without those mistakes, we would've blown them out probably 29-10. Schneider needs to go. If guys keep making the same mistakes, he's clearly not coaching them right.

Does this apply to all coaches?

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

I wanted to be mad at Sorensen yesterday, but we allowed only 215 total yards. That's despite the fact that Bosa wasn't effective while hurt, Ward was out, and Green had to leave the game too.

The only reason that game was even close was special teams. Tampa had crazy starting field position almost all game due to our special teams gaffes.

Luter gifted Tampa 7 points.
Moody left 9 points off the board. Without those mistakes, we would've blown them out probably 29-10. Schneider needs to go. If guys keep making the same mistakes, he's clearly not coaching them right.

215 total yards is a bit misleading if you're just looking at stats. But the 49ers offense dominating TOP helps with that, sure it only shows 3 extra minutes of possession but, Tampa's defense pretty much shut down the 49ers running game, something they had trouble doing in the past. Not to mention Tampa (like you mentioned) having good field position, help keep yardage down. Too many missed tackles and failing to stop the run is a big reason I want to see Shanahan move on from Sorensen.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

I wanted to be mad at Sorensen yesterday, but we allowed only 215 total yards. That's despite the fact that Bosa wasn't effective while hurt, Ward was out, and Green had to leave the game too.

The only reason that game was even close was special teams. Tampa had crazy starting field position almost all game due to our special teams gaffes.

Luter gifted Tampa 7 points.
Moody left 9 points off the board. Without those mistakes, we would've blown them out probably 29-10. Schneider needs to go. If guys keep making the same mistakes, he's clearly not coaching them right.

Does this apply to all coaches?

If Jed York thinks it applies then, sure. But Jed York doesn't have blind hate like you do.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

Fire the defensive coordinator
Fire the special teams coordinator
Fire the offensive line coach
Fire the defensive line coach

Fire everyone except the common denominator to all those coaches: the HEAD coach. Because when it comes to the head coach, it's the players fault.

Shanaexcuses

Shanahan has shown when he has competent coordinators he can take this team far, you know the Super Bowl twice, NFCC four times. Shanahan has his faults, but it doesn't require for him to be fired. Unlike you, I'm not a bandwagon fan that wants the head coach fired every other season.

I don't doubt that changing DCs as often as they have has an effect on how well they're playing. Add that to the fact that they're missing Hargrave and Greenlaw and you get a below average defense. Lot's of new faces on the D line. I would also like to see them change the style of defense.The wide 9 is supposed to help the edge rushers but it's not producing a lot of sacks. What it is doing is providing bigger gaps for teams to run through. Without Greenlaw to help fill those gaps teams are running consistently on this team. Not every week but enough to keep drives alive.

I don't disagree with you at all. In a lot of ways I'd like to scrap the wide 9 too for the reason you mentioned. But for a long time with the wide 9 the 49ers have been one of the top defenses against the run. But for some reason with Sorensen, they just look undisciplined and whiff on so many tackles. Honestly, I don't think Fred Warner is having a good season at all, he's missed a ton of tackles and struggled in coverage. This isn't the attacking defense Sorensen has been preaching, far from it, this is more like the pray-we don't f**k up-defense.

You need to have good active LBs that can fill the gaps. Without Greenlaw Warner is asked to do more than normal He's having a great year but one LB can't fill all the gaps.When they were at their best they has Warner, Greenlaw and Al-Shaahir.

I think our red zone issues are down to the o-line not being very good outside of TW. Brady hinted at this. We need to be able to run it on first and second down, but more often than not we simply cant because the line cannot get any push or big holes etc.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I think our red zone issues are down to the o-line not being very good outside of TW. Brady hinted at this. We need to be able to run it on first and second down, but more often than not we simply cant because the line cannot get any push or big holes etc.

not that there's any push, it's the type of runs called. the defense doesn't have to think, they just stuff the middle.

gritty win on the road

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by Jcool:
A lot of that talent has been hurt this year. So based on who has been on the field. Yes they should be a 5-4 team.

They lost to a banged up Rams team that had more injuries than them that week.
They almost lost to a Tampa team yesterday that was missing its starting LT, top two WRs, and Baker was banged up.
The injury thing has been overblown. They have had one of their best draft classes in years to supplement depth and the guys who have filled in for the injured players (Mason, Ricky, etc) have done a good job.

This isn't college football. You don't get any less credit for the win if its a close game. A wins a win.

Just as you don't get to cite injuries as an excuse when the team loses. Especially when the team has plenty of talent and depth to compensate.

They played down to their opponent yesterday. And this wasn't the first time they've done it. That's on the coaching.

Let me jump in this, but there is a lot of talent on this team due to coaching. Did you think George Kittle became the superstar overnight after being a 5th round pick? Jimmy G., looked like an Pro Bowl QB under Shanahan, after his journey with the 49ers, he's nothing but a back up in the NFL. I think the only player the 9ers drafted that became a super start overnight is Nick Bosa.

The 49ers missed three FG's yesterday, which would've given the team a huge cushion for a win. The Special Teams yesterday made a ton of mistakes, I agree that was on the ST coach/coaching. Sure the offense had some struggles, but overall they were the reason the 9ers were still in this game. As for the defense, again, coaching, Nick Sorensen has to go. The defense has been a problem for this team this whole season, regardless if it's a win or a loss, something needs to be done.

I wanted to be mad at Sorensen yesterday, but we allowed only 215 total yards. That's despite the fact that Bosa wasn't effective while hurt, Ward was out, and Green had to leave the game too.

The only reason that game was even close was special teams. Tampa had crazy starting field position almost all game due to our special teams gaffes.

Luter gifted Tampa 7 points.
Moody left 9 points off the board. Without those mistakes, we would've blown them out probably 29-10. Schneider needs to go. If guys keep making the same mistakes, he's clearly not coaching them right.

Does this apply to all coaches?

lol got em. The hypocrisy is evident. Hold all players and coaches accountable except the guy that's in charge of them all. He's never at fault 😂