49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Franchise QBs are supposed to be good enough that you don't have these kind of seasons. 11-10 wins should be a lock .

franchise QB is a very subjective term

60 million dollar QBs are supposed to be good enough that you don't have these kind of seasons.

not really. the most recent guy gets the bucks. we know this from jimmy. he wasn't the best. but he got the most. at least at that time.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Franchise QBs are supposed to be good enough that you don't have these kind of seasons. 11-10 wins should be a lock .

franchise QB is a very subjective term

60 million dollar QBs are supposed to be good enough that you don't have these kind of seasons.

not really. the most recent guy gets the bucks. we know this from jimmy. he wasn't the best. but he got the most. at least at that time.

nothing you said there changes anything.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I'm happy with Purdy but I never viewed him as a top 5 QB. He is good when he has the talent around him but he's not going to put the team on his back very often. When you pay a young QB big bucks you better have enough young talent to support him. Unfortunately most of the Niners offensive talent is aging and may not be around to help him.

Compare the Niners to the Lions. They have a veteran (but not too old) QB with a young O line and young receivers. Perfect combo.

Pretty sure the lions OL isn't full of young guys outside of their RT. They just paid their WR1 and they will start hitting their cap. They don't really have anyone else there at WR beside Williams and he's a head case and will be coming up on a contract extension.

The Lions' play calling is so similar to Kyle's of the past. It's all based off running the ball. They run a f**k ton of play-action.

I like Purdy. I don't know if I like him at $200M+ but that's just how the position goes. I feel he's more Baker Mayfield money than Burrow money

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I agree with all of this

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Spot on about Brock.

I agree with others that Kyle's passing concept leave much to be desired, but Brock's gonna be your $60M QB, dude has to elevate guys around him. Period.

Josh Allen willed his team to victory yesterday. His top WR was Shakir and Allen was their best RB.

Bills won because McDermott went for the kill and trusted his offense(Josh Allen) on 4th and 2 to win. Shanny on the other hand is afraid of his own offense. He's so petrified of making the wrong decision that he constantly makes the the wrong decision.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
How's he supposed to take over a game when he can't audible at the line and is handcuffed into whatever play shanahan says they are running?

Take the handcuffs and training wheels off and let him either fly from the nest or splat on the ground.

Shanahan won't let him change the play or call his own plays.

He can change plays and does consistently. Every time you hear "can can" that him changing the play. They have hots built into every play. Kyle has even stated with previous QBs that if they want to do that they can. Kirk tried it and said nope.

Let's stop with the he can't audible stuff because overall that's not true.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He can change plays and does consistently. Every time you hear "can can" that him changing the play. They have hots built into every play. Kyle has even stated with previous QBs that if they want to do that they can. Kirk tried it and said nope.

Let's stop with the he can't audible stuff because overall that's not true.

Crazy that people are still parroting this s**t.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
How's he supposed to take over a game when he can't audible at the line and is handcuffed into whatever play shanahan says they are running?

Take the handcuffs and training wheels off and let him either fly from the nest or splat on the ground.

Shanahan won't let him change the play or call his own plays.

He can change plays and does consistently. Every time you hear "can can" that him changing the play. They have hots built into every play. Kyle has even stated with previous QBs that if they want to do that they can. Kirk tried it and said nope.

Let's stop with the he can't audible stuff because overall that's not true.

And yet we are still underperorming

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by niners94:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Yeti:

Originally posted by Niners99:
How many teams have a pro bowl QB with a 7th round salary?

Won't be after this year. We will be in cap purgatory overpaying for a QB and be similar to the cowboys if we aren't already.

it was a historic gift we seemingly squandered

Made it to a SB and NFCC. Is what it is…if he's the real deal then it doesn't matter if he's getting paid a f**k ton, his play should offset the lost talent due to cap restraints.

He's showing he's a good qb, not a takeover the game elite qb. Can't pay that a record setting salary.

It's his third season on a team that's checked out mentally. I don't think his career is defined yet. Does make it hard to know what to pay him right now though

He needs to accept 50-55 million a year. Still great money.

My issue is it feels as if players are not being held accountable for bad play. We have watched Brendel, Mckivitz and be Campbell horrible at times and still keep their spots. I wouldn't complain about losses if they benched players to see what others have to offer.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Bills won because McDermott went for the kill and trusted his offense(Josh Allen) on 4th and 2 to win. Shanny on the other hand is afraid of his own offense. He's so petrified of making the wrong decision that he constantly makes the the wrong decision.

you lost me when you said bills won cuz McDermott. he has Josh Allen.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Bills won because McDermott went for the kill and trusted his offense(Josh Allen) on 4th and 2 to win. Shanny on the other hand is afraid of his own offense. He's so petrified of making the wrong decision that he constantly makes the the wrong decision.

McDermott sucks and the only reason he's still got a HC job is because of his QB….Josh Allen is a freak who can run over LBers and has a cannon arm. The play is never truly dead until he's on the ground.

the constant early down penalties have been killing drives. That a player and coach problem at this point. It's week 11 and if they can't figure that s**t out, it's not changing.

I do agree, Kyle probably kicks a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 2 hindsight is 20/20 there and who knows if Kyle's a little more confident in his 6-5 240 QB getting 2 yards vs his 6-1 215lb QB.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
How's he supposed to take over a game when he can't audible at the line and is handcuffed into whatever play shanahan says they are running?

Take the handcuffs and training wheels off and let him either fly from the nest or splat on the ground.

Shanahan won't let him change the play or call his own plays.

He can change plays and does consistently. Every time you hear "can can" that him changing the play. They have hots built into every play. Kyle has even stated with previous QBs that if they want to do that they can. Kirk tried it and said nope.

Let's stop with the he can't audible stuff because overall that's not true.

And yet we are still underperorming

Not because Brock can't call all his own plays lol. People acting like he's Payton manning or some s**t.

SF is underperforming because of a ton of things. That complaint is low on the list.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Bills won because McDermott went for the kill and trusted his offense(Josh Allen) on 4th and 2 to win. Shanny on the other hand is afraid of his own offense. He's so petrified of making the wrong decision that he constantly makes the the wrong decision.

you lost me when you said bills won cuz McDermott. he has Josh Allen.

If it were that simple he'd have a ring

Originally posted by NYniner85:
McDermott sucks and the only reason he's still got a HC job is because of his QB….Josh Allen is a freak who can run over LBers and has a cannon arm. The play is never truly dead until he's on the ground.

the constant early down penalties have been killing drives. That a player and coach problem at this point. It's week 11 and if they can't figure that s**t out, it's not changing.

I do agree, Kyle probably kicks a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 2 hindsight is 20/20 there and who knows if Kyle's a little more confident in his 6-5 240 QB getting 2 yards vs his 6-1 215lb QB.

Allen is a special player but i'm done with the KS doesn't have balls cuz he doesn't trust his QB line. i was done with that years ago. he picks the QB. he picked brock.

if you are in like year 8 and you haven't trusted your QB in 8 years, that's on you. big time.