49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

McDermott sucks and the only reason he's still got a HC job is because of his QB….Josh Allen is a freak who can run over LBers and has a cannon arm. The play is never truly dead until he's on the ground.

the constant early down penalties have been killing drives. That a player and coach problem at this point. It's week 11 and if they can't figure that s**t out, it's not changing.

I do agree, Kyle probably kicks a FG instead of going for it on 4th and 2 hindsight is 20/20 there and who knows if Kyle's a little more confident in his 6-5 240 QB getting 2 yards vs his 6-1 215lb QB.

Allen is a special player but i'm done with the KS doesn't have balls cuz he doesn't trust his QB line. i was done with that years ago. he picks the QB. he picked brock.

He's supposed to be the genius that makes it so easy for any qb but then he gets excuses for having no balls

Originally posted by northoakland510:
My issue is it feels as if players are not being held accountable for bad play. We have watched Brendel, Mckivitz and be Campbell horrible at times and still keep their spots. I wouldn't complain about losses if they benched players to see what others have to offer.

I mean who you playing at RT and C right now? They didn't add anything meaningful there. That's the problem. We don't need the QB to get completely killed either.

Campbell is so bad and moving off him should have happened a while ago. He's so f**king slow. Warner played awful yesterday imo. I believe he had the highest passer rating allowed for any player, he had like 3 tackles or some s**t. Can't bench him lol.

It's just bad all around. Guys are banged up and your "stars" aren't holding up on their part of the bargain either.

well said


especially this 🤡

Originally posted by Heroism:
well said

The whole Shanahan discussion is so toxic. Shanahan has built the 49ers into one of the best teams in the league. We can both recognize he's one of the best offensive minds in football and that he needs to adjust a bit.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

especially this 🤡

And it's not about audibles.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

Very true! It's about Purdy not letting teams hang in games and also being able to finish games. It seems like watching Purdy as of late is such a struggle. It's becoming hard to watch too.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Allen is a special player but i'm done with the KS doesn't have balls cuz he doesn't trust his QB line. i was done with that years ago. he picks the QB. he picked brock.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you are in like year 8 and you haven't trusted your QB in 8 years, that's on you. big time.

Nowhere did I say he doesn't trust Brock, it's not like he hasn't gone for it on 4th down ever. It's not like he hasn't put a ton of faith in Brock. Dude toss Lance in the trash after 4 games because Brock was the guy.

I'm saying Josh Allen is special and in some of those instances it does help to have a QB like that. Let's keep s**t real. Brock has his moments but he's not one of those guys.

Originally posted by Heroism:
well said

The whole Shanahan discussion is so toxic. Shanahan has built the 49ers into one of the best teams in the league. We can both recognize he's one of the best offensive minds in football and that he needs to adjust a bit.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

especially this 🤡

And it's not about audibles.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

Thank you!!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Allen is a special player but i'm done with the KS doesn't have balls cuz he doesn't trust his QB line. i was done with that years ago. he picks the QB. he picked brock.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you are in like year 8 and you haven't trusted your QB in 8 years, that's on you. big time.

Nowhere did I say he doesn't trust Brock, it's not like he hasn't gone for it on 4th down ever. It's not like he hasn't put a ton of faith in Brock. Dude toss Lance in the trash after 4 games because Brock was the guy.

I'm saying Josh Allen is special and in some of those instances it does help to have a QB like that. Let's keep s**t real. Brock has his moments but he's not one of those guys.

gotta trust in your crew, even if they are not all Josh Allen's. the question is who do you trust more.. Brock or Sorenson without Bosa?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you are in like year 8 and you haven't trusted your QB in 8 years, that's on you. big time.

Yeah and he kicked Darnold out of town. Who later became a star with a real QB coaching him. His coach with the Vikings was a QB. For the first time he looks like that top 3 pick he was. He is big stature with a big arm. I don't understand why Shany never likes these guys? I like Brock and have supported him some of the most. But there is something to be said for being a big, tall, big stature guy with a cannon arm. Strangely Shany never likes these guys. Even actively kicks them out of town. It's weird at this point. He just wants somebody who is submissive and will run his dumb plays. That's the requirement.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Thank you!!

I do think there's irony here that an adjustment is needed because this entire season was supposed to be the adjustment(ie more focused on dropback/gun game, putting the load on Brock, centering pass game around BA, less 21 personnel etc.), but so many wrenches have been thrown into the equation(mainly injuries+holds outs). Also, the OL isn't really built for that, so the team did a terrible job preparing themselves for this next evolution in the offense in that regard. You can't expect to throw the ball more with Pearsall and McKivitz.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:
well said

The whole Shanahan discussion is so toxic. Shanahan has built the 49ers into one of the best teams in the league. We can both recognize he's one of the best offensive minds in football and that he needs to adjust a bit.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

especially this 🤡

And it's not about audibles.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

Thank you!!

The discussion is toxic because the reality is too much for some to accept. Kyle built a good team and innovated the offense for a while. We enjoyed some post season success but then something happened. His offense stopped working and his team started to lose discipline. His past continues to haunt him rather than shape much needed adjustments. The team is not playing to their potential. They lack energy. They look broken because they are broken. Teams are feasting on his predictability. Yesterday's s**tshow was hard to watch but maybe it will draw some attention to the fact that change is needed. There were warning signs of a major problem brewing last year. Wins provide cover and can be deceptive. We almost got bounced out of the playoffs by Green Bay and Detroit. We got lucky in both games. That luck has run out.

Originally posted by Heroism:
well said

The whole Shanahan discussion is so toxic. Shanahan has built the 49ers into one of the best teams in the league. We can both recognize he's one of the best offensive minds in football and that he needs to adjust a bit.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

especially this 🤡

And it's not about audibles.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

Except he never adjusts. He needs to go.

This would be some turnaround If Kyle could some how find a way of beating both, The Packers and the Bills on the road In back-to-back weeks.

In Kyle we trust.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you are in like year 8 and you haven't trusted your QB in 8 years, that's on you. big time.

Yeah and he kicked Darnold out of town. Who later became a star with a real QB coaching him. His coach with the Vikings was a QB. For the first time he looks like that top 3 pick he was. He is big stature with a big arm. I don't understand why Shany never likes these guys? I like Brock and have supported him some of the most. But there is something to be said for being a big, tall, big stature guy with a cannon arm. Strangely Shany never likes these guys. Even actively kicks them out of town. It's weird at this point. He just wants somebody who is submissive and will run his dumb plays. That's the requirement.

They even won a game where he threw 5 picks lol

Originally posted by Sickaa:
This would be some turnaround If Kyle could some how find a way of beating both, The Packers and the Bills on the road In back-to-back weeks.

In Kyle we trust.

Eh, three out of next five a lot of frigging traveling (GB, Bills, Miami). Then of the other two of five not traveling so far is a Thursday Night game(short week). Then the very last two Detroit and AZ. It doesn't sound very promising if things continue as is. This is pretty brutal even if things were better.

Originally posted by Heroism:
well said

The whole Shanahan discussion is so toxic. Shanahan has built the 49ers into one of the best teams in the league. We can both recognize he's one of the best offensive minds in football and that he needs to adjust a bit.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

especially this 🤡

And it's not about audibles.

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) November 18, 2024

Everything with this team gets toxic when things aren't perfect. Just see every QB discussion the last 30 years.