49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Sure, I'll take your word for it.

Like I said , been there debunked that. Care to come up with something real?

I'm not sure how you define aggressive, but you are embarrassing yourself with this "debunked" talk and claiming that Kyle Shanahan is the "most aggressive" coach in the NFL. That is so beyond asinine that it's laughable.

Well it has been years ago.. when we get guys like you who don't know what their talking about

but it looks like you're not going to bring anything to discuss

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Sure, I'll take your word for it.

Like I said , been there debunked that. Care to come up with something real?

I'm not sure how you define aggressive, but you are embarrassing yourself with this "debunked" talk and claiming that Kyle Shanahan is the "most aggressive" coach in the NFL. That is so beyond asinine that it's laughable.

Well it has been years ago.. when we get guys like you who don't know what their talking about

but it looks like you're not going to bring anything to discuss

Yes, you are truly fierce to debate. I get thrown off by people who can't differentiate between "they're" and "their" and then expect to be taken seriously.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think he wears as many hats as a lot of other high end HCs. Folks remember when he had McDaniels/lafleur/Slowik/kubiak etc as his passing game or running game coordinator?

His coaching staff has been depleted more than anyone else in the NFL the past 7 years.

I think Kyle actually gives his coaches a ton of responsibilities. He's just the final say in regards to the offense. I think his overall passing concepts aren't anything special. His running game is very good, when people are executing properly.

we've had way too many early down penalties and piss poor run-blocking to make everything work. Once were forced into consistent passing plays, that's when the s**t hits the fan. We don't have the true pass blockers. The play calling isn't amazing. We lost our best separating WR….and while I love Brock I don't view him as some elite level QB that can make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.

If anything, Brock has consistently made chicken salad out of Shanahan's chicken s**t gameplans.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think he wears as many hats as a lot of other high end HCs. Folks remember when he had McDaniels/lafleur/Slowik/kubiak etc as his passing game or running game coordinator?

His coaching staff has been depleted more than anyone else in the NFL the past 7 years.

I think Kyle actually gives his coaches a ton of responsibilities. He's just the final say in regards to the offense. I think his overall passing concepts aren't anything special. His running game is very good, when people are executing properly.

we've had way too many early down penalties and piss poor run-blocking to make everything work. Once were forced into consistent passing plays, that's when the s**t hits the fan. We don't have the true pass blockers. The play calling isn't amazing. We lost our best separating WR….and while I love Brock I don't view him as some elite level QB that can make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.

If anything, Brock has consistently made chicken salad out of Shanahan's chicken s**t gameplans.

I guess jimmy g is just a great QB also right.. lol

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Sure, I'll take your word for it.

Like I said , been there debunked that. Care to come up with something real?

I'm not sure how you define aggressive, but you are embarrassing yourself with this "debunked" talk and claiming that Kyle Shanahan is the "most aggressive" coach in the NFL. That is so beyond asinine that it's laughable.

Well it has been years ago.. when we get guys like you who don't know what their talking about

but it looks like you're not going to bring anything to discuss

Yes, you are truly fierce to debate. I get thrown off by people who can't differentiate between "they're" and "their" and then expect to be taken seriously.

oh yeah the typo excuse.. just say you can't bring anything to discuss and want to continue talking out the arse

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Sure, I'll take your word for it.

Like I said , been there debunked that. Care to come up with something real?

I'm not sure how you define aggressive, but you are embarrassing yourself with this "debunked" talk and claiming that Kyle Shanahan is the "most aggressive" coach in the NFL. That is so beyond asinine that it's laughable.

Well it has been years ago.. when we get guys like you who don't know what their talking about

but it looks like you're not going to bring anything to discuss

Yes, you are truly fierce to debate. I get thrown off by people who can't differentiate between "they're" and "their" and then expect to be taken seriously.

oh yeah the typo excuse.. just say you can't bring anything to discuss and want to continue talking out the arse

. Sometimes it just isn't worth it. I don't expect you to understand.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think he wears as many hats as a lot of other high end HCs. Folks remember when he had McDaniels/lafleur/Slowik/kubiak etc as his passing game or running game coordinator?

His coaching staff has been depleted more than anyone else in the NFL the past 7 years.

I think Kyle actually gives his coaches a ton of responsibilities. He's just the final say in regards to the offense. I think his overall passing concepts aren't anything special. His running game is very good, when people are executing properly.

we've had way too many early down penalties and piss poor run-blocking to make everything work. Once were forced into consistent passing plays, that's when the s**t hits the fan. We don't have the true pass blockers. The play calling isn't amazing. We lost our best separating WR….and while I love Brock I don't view him as some elite level QB that can make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.

If anything, Brock has consistently made chicken salad out of Shanahan's chicken s**t gameplans.

I guess jimmy g is just a great QB also right.. lol

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think he wears as many hats as a lot of other high end HCs. Folks remember when he had McDaniels/lafleur/Slowik/kubiak etc as his passing game or running game coordinator?

His coaching staff has been depleted more than anyone else in the NFL the past 7 years.

I think Kyle actually gives his coaches a ton of responsibilities. He's just the final say in regards to the offense. I think his overall passing concepts aren't anything special. His running game is very good, when people are executing properly.

we've had way too many early down penalties and piss poor run-blocking to make everything work. Once were forced into consistent passing plays, that's when the s**t hits the fan. We don't have the true pass blockers. The play calling isn't amazing. We lost our best separating WR….and while I love Brock I don't view him as some elite level QB that can make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.

If anything, Brock has consistently made chicken salad out of Shanahan's chicken s**t gameplans.

I guess jimmy g is just a great QB also right.. lol

This guy 49All is off his meds tonight

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think he wears as many hats as a lot of other high end HCs. Folks remember when he had McDaniels/lafleur/Slowik/kubiak etc as his passing game or running game coordinator?

His coaching staff has been depleted more than anyone else in the NFL the past 7 years.

I think Kyle actually gives his coaches a ton of responsibilities. He's just the final say in regards to the offense. I think his overall passing concepts aren't anything special. His running game is very good, when people are executing properly.

we've had way too many early down penalties and piss poor run-blocking to make everything work. Once were forced into consistent passing plays, that's when the s**t hits the fan. We don't have the true pass blockers. The play calling isn't amazing. We lost our best separating WR….and while I love Brock I don't view him as some elite level QB that can make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.

If anything, Brock has consistently made chicken salad out of Shanahan's chicken s**t gameplans.

I guess jimmy g is just a great QB also right.. lol

This guy 49All is off his meds tonight

damn no wonder football is hard for you guys if you can't figure that one out

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Sure, I'll take your word for it.

Like I said , been there debunked that. Care to come up with something real?

I'm not sure how you define aggressive, but you are embarrassing yourself with this "debunked" talk and claiming that Kyle Shanahan is the "most aggressive" coach in the NFL. That is so beyond asinine that it's laughable.

Well it has been years ago.. when we get guys like you who don't know what their talking about

but it looks like you're not going to bring anything to discuss

Yes, you are truly fierce to debate. I get thrown off by people who can't differentiate between "they're" and "their" and then expect to be taken seriously.

oh yeah the typo excuse.. just say you can't bring anything to discuss and want to continue talking out the arse

. Sometimes it just isn't worth it. I don't expect you to understand.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Sure, I'll take your word for it.

Like I said , been there debunked that. Care to come up with something real?

I'm not sure how you define aggressive, but you are embarrassing yourself with this "debunked" talk and claiming that Kyle Shanahan is the "most aggressive" coach in the NFL. That is so beyond asinine that it's laughable.

Well it has been years ago.. when we get guys like you who don't know what their talking about

but it looks like you're not going to bring anything to discuss

Yes, you are truly fierce to debate. I get thrown off by people who can't differentiate between "they're" and "their" and then expect to be taken seriously.

oh yeah the typo excuse.. just say you can't bring anything to discuss and want to continue talking out the arse

. Sometimes it just isn't worth it. I don't expect you to understand.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Darkness49ers:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
One of my biggest issues with KS is he rarely gets aggressive on 4th down. Coaches all over the NFL have been doing this now for the past 5-10 years. We should have gone for the 1st down on 4th and < 1 yard on the initial series. It doesn't matter that the ball is at the 38. A punt there and a 3 and out is a huge swing in the game flow towards Seattle. As expected, they drove down and got 3 points. We also should have gone for the 4th and 6 at the Seattle 42. It's not as crazy as it sounds. A first down there wins the game. You have the whole field to work with. The punter ended up kicking it into the end zone for a net 22 yard punt. These are just a few examples. The worst of course is the 4th and 1 in the 2021 NFCCG @ LAR when Shanahan turtled up and punted from the LAR 44 midway through the 4th with a 3 point lead. A TD on that drive, or at least burning another 4-5 minutes would have sent us to the SB to face a Bengals team we already beat.

He also doesn't have a 4 minute offense. We've lost the 2019 SB, 2021 NFCCG, 2023 SB and a few regular season games because of this.

Concur with all. He's cost the Niners just as much as he's contributed to winning.

4th and 1 in the NFCCG Rams game, I'll never forget. What a coward.

This is some BS, this has already been debunked here years ago.

try to come up with real takes

What is there to debunk? You make it sound like this is some conspiracy theory or urban legend that science discredited

He has had a lot of chances to be aggressive, take a chance, and win the game. He typically hasn't done so in the most key situations. He always leaves it up to the defense to shut the door on a game because his offense can never get that one time consuming scoring drive that puts a stranglehold on the game.

Despite the struggles this year, I still think he's a good OC and play designer. I think as a HC he leaves a lot to be desired, though.

He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Being too aggressive or too conservative is not the issue. It's game mismanagement that bugs the hell out of people.

https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/12/49ers-head-coach-kyle-shanahan-play-calling-risky-conservative/

Two of the big marks on Shanahan's play-calling record have come in Super Bowls. In a Super Bowl LI loss to the Patriots when he was the Falcons' offensive coordinator, some people have criticized him for being too aggressive with his team up 28-3 late in the third quarter. Then again in Super Bowl LIV while he was the head coach of the 49ers he was marked by some as being too aggressive with a 10-point lead late in the fourth quarter.

Other times in the regular season he gets very conservative with punts in plus territory or long field goals on fourth-and-1 or 2. Those situations make it feel like the aggressive Super Bowl stumbles force him into a more conservative mindset.

The guy doesn't know how to call a game. Leatha is right. We absolutely should have gone for it on the opening drive on 4th and short. And we absolutely should have gone for it on the final drive on 4th and 5 inside Seattle's 45 in a must win game, especially when you have evidence of 2 prior division games where the opposition made a last minute comeback.

He obviously doesn't see it that way because outside of the X's and O's of offense, he's a pretty bad coach. Too bad you guys refuse to see that…

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
He's actually pretty good at making chicken salad out of chicken s**t. As in, buying time, scrambling, and making plays.

But I think I know what you mean by that last line, he's not a big arm QB that can make big plays with his arm without relying on good timing and anticipation.

But there's something off about him this year, I still think he has some kind of arm injury. There really is less zip on his balls, it's pretty noticable on the out routes, just doesn't look the same as previous seasons.

yeah he's not that Josh Allen/mahomes can scramble and chuck it 60 yards downfield on a rope when a play breaks down.

he's good at scrambling and can give guys time. He's just not gifted as a thrower. That's fine, he doesn't have to be.

Jonny pointed out that his mechanics haven't been as good this yr, mainly his footwork. That play where everyone complained about Deebo's lack of route running was a horrible pass. His footwork was crap, it was very Jimmy Gish and lead to a super inaccurate ball.

he can't afford to have bad mechanics with a below avg arm.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I think he wears as many hats as a lot of other high end HCs. Folks remember when he had McDaniels/lafleur/Slowik/kubiak etc as his passing game or running game coordinator?

His coaching staff has been depleted more than anyone else in the NFL the past 7 years.

I think Kyle actually gives his coaches a ton of responsibilities. He's just the final say in regards to the offense. I think his overall passing concepts aren't anything special. His running game is very good, when people are executing properly.

we've had way too many early down penalties and piss poor run-blocking to make everything work. Once were forced into consistent passing plays, that's when the s**t hits the fan. We don't have the true pass blockers. The play calling isn't amazing. We lost our best separating WR….and while I love Brock I don't view him as some elite level QB that can make chicken salad out of chicken s**t.

If anything, Brock has consistently made chicken salad out of Shanahan's chicken s**t gameplans.

He's missed reads a plenty and hasn't been as accurate as you would hope. His mechanics overall aren't great right now. He's never gonna extend a play and throw a 60 yard rope downfield on a broken play. He can move and make stuff happen, not saying he can't….We were so use to Jimmy G that anything else looks like Josh Allen. Teams (from what I've seen) aren't defending Brock like they do with Allen/herbert/burrow/mahomes/jackson etc.

he's not gonna truck dudes running downfield like Allen does. He's not 6-5 240lbs. He is very much a rhythm passer, who depends on the running game to open s**t up. IMO his game is very similar to Baker mayfield, he just doesn't have the overall arm that Baker has.

what I'm saying is if you're paying a guy $250M to be the QB, he's gotta elevate everything. He's gotta take over a game and if the running game isn't working, it shouldn't be the end of the game. Love Brock, I just don't think he's ever gonna be in that elite tier of guys.

also moving off Kyle, means moving off Lynch and quite possibly Brock depending on whomever they hire…it more than likely means rebuilding rather than straight to SB championships. I know none of you are willing to do that.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
He's the most aggressive coach there is, that's why this is BS

Sure, I'll take your word for it.

Like I said , been there debunked that. Care to come up with something real?

I'm not sure how you define aggressive, but you are embarrassing yourself with this "debunked" talk and claiming that Kyle Shanahan is the "most aggressive" coach in the NFL. That is so beyond asinine that it's laughable.

Well it has been years ago.. when we get guys like you who don't know what their talking about

but it looks like you're not going to bring anything to discuss

Yes, you are truly fierce to debate. I get thrown off by people who can't differentiate between "they're" and "their" and then expect to be taken seriously.

oh yeah the typo excuse.. just say you can't bring anything to discuss and want to continue talking out the arse

. Sometimes it just isn't worth it. I don't expect you to understand.

Hey look it's the non mod police.

You can't have an opinion because I don't agree with you!