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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
What's changed from those years? Williams is older. The rest of the O line isn't as good. Deebo isn't getting the big YAC plays. CMC isn't in great shape yet. Aiyuk is missing. Other than that everything is fine.

Kittle's been in and out of the line up
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
What's changed from those years? Williams is older. The rest of the O line isn't as good. Deebo isn't getting the big YAC plays. CMC isn't in great shape yet. Aiyuk is missing. Other than that everything is fine.

Kittle's been in and out of the line up

True but that's the case nearly every year. Kittle is a war horse and always manages to get back out there. He often misses a game here or there because of the intense way he plays.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
So we need to find a better HC than Kyle AND they have to accept that Brock is their $250M QB throughout their tenure…how he plays will determine their if they get to keep their job long-term.

you sure about that?

Technically speaking Kyle was the second best coach last year so the only way to get better is to hire Reid.

It's been 11 months since Kyle got drunk and lost the Super Bowl.

Sounds like you've been on a bender like Kyle and haven't watch the 2024 season yet.

Funny coming from the guy who didn't know we beat Seattle the first time we played. Good try though

This season has been such a s**t show I can't keep track of the losses between s**tty NFC West teams.

Six weeks ago I said Shanahan's offense was milquetoast and it's still milquetoast.

Memory loss is a sign of something.

It's a sign of giving out too many Shanahanjobs.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
What's changed from those years? Williams is older. The rest of the O line isn't as good. Deebo isn't getting the big YAC plays. CMC isn't in great shape yet. Aiyuk is missing. Other than that everything is fine.

Kittle's been in and out of the line up

True but that's the case nearly every year. Kittle is a war horse and always manages to get back out there. He often misses a game here or there because of the intense way he plays.

Having 2023 Aiyuk outta the line up is a huge blow, for all the s**t I gave him about re-signing, he does run the best routes out of 49ers WR's. Pearsall, Aiyuk, Deebo and Jennings would've been huge for the offense this season. Imagine if Aiyuk didn't hold out, he would've been the 49ers top WR and most like a top 10 WR in the NFL right now.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
What's changed from those years? Williams is older. The rest of the O line isn't as good. Deebo isn't getting the big YAC plays. CMC isn't in great shape yet. Aiyuk is missing. Other than that everything is fine.

Kittle's been in and out of the line up

True but that's the case nearly every year. Kittle is a war horse and always manages to get back out there. He often misses a game here or there because of the intense way he plays.

Having 2023 Aiyuk outta the line up is a huge blow, for all the s**t I gave him about re-signing, he does run the best routes out of 49ers WR's. Pearsall, Aiyuk, Deebo and Jennings would've been huge for the offense this season. Imagine if Aiyuk didn't hold out, he would've been the 49ers top WR and most like a top 10 WR in the NFL right now.

Possibly, but imo WR market is dumb overall and WR's dont make up for inconsistent to bad pass protection. We all knew once he was holding out through camp it was bad news. When TW pulled his BS it was like ah ok, we missed our shot.
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
So we need to find a better HC than Kyle AND they have to accept that Brock is their $250M QB throughout their tenure…how he plays will determine their if they get to keep their job long-term.

you sure about that?

Technically speaking Kyle was the second best coach last year so the only way to get better is to hire Reid.

It's been 11 months since Kyle got drunk and lost the Super Bowl.

Sounds like you've been on a bender like Kyle and haven't watch the 2024 season yet.

Funny coming from the guy who didn't know we beat Seattle the first time we played. Good try though

This season has been such a s**t show I can't keep track of the losses between s**tty NFC West teams.

Six weeks ago I said Shanahan's offense was milquetoast and it's still milquetoast.

Memory loss is a sign of something.

It's a sign of giving out too many Shanahanjobs.

How you make your money is your own business
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
So we need to find a better HC than Kyle AND they have to accept that Brock is their $250M QB throughout their tenure…how he plays will determine their if they get to keep their job long-term.

you sure about that?

Technically speaking Kyle was the second best coach last year so the only way to get better is to hire Reid.

It's been 11 months since Kyle got drunk and lost the Super Bowl.

Sounds like you've been on a bender like Kyle and haven't watch the 2024 season yet.

Funny coming from the guy who didn't know we beat Seattle the first time we played. Good try though

This season has been such a s**t show I can't keep track of the losses between s**tty NFC West teams.

Six weeks ago I said Shanahan's offense was milquetoast and it's still milquetoast.

Memory loss is a sign of something.

It's a sign of giving out too many Shanahanjobs.

How you make your money is your own business

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
What's changed from those years? Williams is older. The rest of the O line isn't as good. Deebo isn't getting the big YAC plays. CMC isn't in great shape yet. Aiyuk is missing. Other than that everything is fine.

Kittle's been in and out of the line up

True but that's the case nearly every year. Kittle is a war horse and always manages to get back out there. He often misses a game here or there because of the intense way he plays.

Having 2023 Aiyuk outta the line up is a huge blow, for all the s**t I gave him about re-signing, he does run the best routes out of 49ers WR's. Pearsall, Aiyuk, Deebo and Jennings would've been huge for the offense this season. Imagine if Aiyuk didn't hold out, he would've been the 49ers top WR and most like a top 10 WR in the NFL right now.

I don't think the holdout had anything to do with the torn ligaments. That's just bad luck and has nothing to do with conditioning. With Aiyuk out we've seen how hard it is for Deebo to get open.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by PatandBow:
Yes and it won't be 1 individual. It will be a Head Coach and an Offensive Coordinator.

Don't act like it's not a desirable destination for a new Coach.

Brock is better than a handful of other quarterbacks out there.

The money is what it is. It could be 400 million, it's irrelevant. It's the market and we don't have any control over it.

Don't act like the money means nothing…because it most certainly does. Anyone coming in here is tied to Brock and his massive contract. It limits what you can do and who you can get.

Not everyone agrees & thinks he's some elite level QB. It most certainly plays a massive part in who they would bring in and what they would have to accept.

jed had to beg Kyle to come here if you remember…Kyle said he wasn't coming to a team that didn't have top end vet QB tied to it. Jed had to give him a 6 yr deal and carte blanche. This was NOT a desirable spot.

Firing a well respected young HC who took a team to 2 SBs and 2 NFCCs in 5 yrs isn't something that teams do. You're asking that guy to do BETTER than that from day 1.

all this debate is meaningless, they aren't firing him nor should they.

Well then stop acting like he's good at all of his responsibilities, because clearly the guy has to much on his plate and mind for that matter.

He struggles when it matters most because he has to much on the brain.

It's widely known that he's a well respected Offensive coach that struggles finishing games.

All of those games you mentioned he failed to finish when he had the lead.

Why's that NYNiner85?
Originally posted by PatandBow:
Well then stop acting like he's good at all of his responsibilities, because clearly the guy has to much on his plate and mind for that matter.

He struggles when it matters most because he has to much on the brain.

It's widely known that he's a well respected Offensive coach that struggles finishing games.

All of those games you mentioned he failed to finish when he had the lead.

Why's that NYNiner85?

lol at this armchair analysis. you "clearly" have ZERO idea how his brain operates.

and fans call him arrogant.
Originally posted by PatandBow:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by PatandBow:
Yes and it won't be 1 individual. It will be a Head Coach and an Offensive Coordinator.

Don't act like it's not a desirable destination for a new Coach.

Brock is better than a handful of other quarterbacks out there.

The money is what it is. It could be 400 million, it's irrelevant. It's the market and we don't have any control over it.

Don't act like the money means nothing…because it most certainly does. Anyone coming in here is tied to Brock and his massive contract. It limits what you can do and who you can get.

Not everyone agrees & thinks he's some elite level QB. It most certainly plays a massive part in who they would bring in and what they would have to accept.

jed had to beg Kyle to come here if you remember…Kyle said he wasn't coming to a team that didn't have top end vet QB tied to it. Jed had to give him a 6 yr deal and carte blanche. This was NOT a desirable spot.

Firing a well respected young HC who took a team to 2 SBs and 2 NFCCs in 5 yrs isn't something that teams do. You're asking that guy to do BETTER than that from day 1.

all this debate is meaningless, they aren't firing him nor should they.

Well then stop acting like he's good at all of his responsibilities, because clearly the guy has to much on his plate and mind for that matter.

He struggles when it matters most because he has to much on the brain.

It's widely known that he's a well respected Offensive coach that struggles finishing games.

All of those games you mentioned he failed to finish when he had the lead.

Why's that NYNiner85?

I think the phrase you are looking for is, it's too much on his mind.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
What's changed from those years? Williams is older. The rest of the O line isn't as good. Deebo isn't getting the big YAC plays. CMC isn't in great shape yet. Aiyuk is missing. Other than that everything is fine.

Kittle's been in and out of the line up

True but that's the case nearly every year. Kittle is a war horse and always manages to get back out there. He often misses a game here or there because of the intense way he plays.

Having 2023 Aiyuk outta the line up is a huge blow, for all the s**t I gave him about re-signing, he does run the best routes out of 49ers WR's. Pearsall, Aiyuk, Deebo and Jennings would've been huge for the offense this season. Imagine if Aiyuk didn't hold out, he would've been the 49ers top WR and most like a top 10 WR in the NFL right now.

I don't think the holdout had anything to do with the torn ligaments. That's just bad luck and has nothing to do with conditioning. With Aiyuk out we've seen how hard it is for Deebo to get open.

But he did look rusty as hell, dropping a lot of passes and even looked gassed out. If he didn't holdout 49ers might've won vs LAR and AZ.
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Even during this time the scheme was showing cracks though. It required us to go up quick and fast. It struggled against heavy pressure Ds.
ya know it's an awfully similar claim to a PBM's take from a bit back. it's almost like someone is saying...

Kyle's lack of nueroplasticity is the reason he will never be a winner

i believe i know who PatandBow is now.
Originally posted by DrEll:
He could've had Fangio. Went with Wilks and Sorenson instead

Says who? Let's stop making up s**t
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