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Nov 23, 2024 at 2:39 PM
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Nov 23, 2024 at 2:54 PM
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
Nov 23, 2024 at 3:29 PM
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Originally posted by Montana:
I like Kyle, just not in Superbowls lol
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Nov 23, 2024 at 5:33 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:such a troll lol.. yeah lets bank of worthless future talk. lol
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
They aren't getting better. finishing with a losing record this year and likely will do the same next year. The Kyle regime is in it's twilight and his greatest admirers will be out for his head after next year. Just wait and see. The collapse of Kyle started after he choked again, for the third time, last year. It only gets worse from here.
Kyle has you covered all ways. Choker in the past. Loser in the present and future. 0-3. Anyway you look at it. Keep defending the greatest choke on turf.
Nov 23, 2024 at 6:01 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
Kyle and his team blew two 10 point leads in the Superbowl... True or false? I don't need a deflection I simply ask for a true or false. Did this happen or not?
I won't even bring up his terrible offensive performance in the second half against The Patriots. When literally all he had to do was do the exact opposite of what he was doing.. as always in big moments. Hey, just like last Sunday....
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Nov 23, 2024 at 6:52 PM ]
Nov 23, 2024 at 8:21 PM
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
Kyle and his team blew two 10 point leads in the Superbowl... True or false? I don't need a deflection I simply ask for a true or false. Did this happen or not?
I won't even bring up his terrible offensive performance in the second half against The Patriots. When literally all he had to do was do the exact opposite of what he was doing.. as always in big moments. Hey, just like last Sunday....
Nov 23, 2024 at 8:28 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
Kyle and his team blew two 10 point leads in the Superbowl... True or false? I don't need a deflection I simply ask for a true or false. Did this happen or not?
I won't even bring up his terrible offensive performance in the second half against The Patriots. When literally all he had to do was do the exact opposite of what he was doing.. as always in big moments. Hey, just like last Sunday....
Oh yeah he's just the Head Coach. The single constant in the losses despite different personnel and players. It's always someone else's fault. Never the guy running the entire team.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Nov 23, 2024 at 8:31 PM ]
Nov 23, 2024 at 8:31 PM
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:If he's the constant… why do you stick your head in the ground on all the winning that surpasses a few losses
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
Kyle and his team blew two 10 point leads in the Superbowl... True or false? I don't need a deflection I simply ask for a true or false. Did this happen or not?
I won't even bring up his terrible offensive performance in the second half against The Patriots. When literally all he had to do was do the exact opposite of what he was doing.. as always in big moments. Hey, just like last Sunday....
Oh yeah he's just the Head Coach. The single constant in the losses despite different personnel and players.
kinda like you did with jimmy?
Nov 23, 2024 at 8:36 PM
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by NYniner85:what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Kyle was not what got Reid over the hump... Getting a guy who may go down as the greatest QB in NFL history while never having his staff and front office gutted, including arguably the best DC in the NFL, that's what did it.
I mean, the fact we made it with Jimmy G is an insane testament to Kyle's ability to make the offense work without a God-tier QB.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Nov 23, 2024 at 8:37 PM ]
Nov 23, 2024 at 8:48 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Kyle was not what got Reid over the hump... Getting a guy who may go down as the greatest QB in NFL history while never having his staff and front office gutted, including arguably the best DC in the NFL, that's what did it.
I mean, the fact we made it with Jimmy G is an insane testament to Kyle's ability to make the offense work without a God-tier QB.
We were up by 10 and controlling the game. Mahomes was held to field goals. We had multiple chances to win both Superbowls but choked. Literally choked it. Now admittedly Shanahan is good enough to get that 10 point lead and that's why he would be rather difficult to replace but nothing he's ever done leads me believe he will finish one. On the other hand there are good number of times, 3 this very season where we were playing well and choked. We could easily 8-2 right now but we're not. This is not an anomaly, the evidence is right there.
And it's not just one area. It's special teams, offense and defense...
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Nov 23, 2024 at 8:49 PM ]
Nov 23, 2024 at 9:36 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Kyle was not what got Reid over the hump... Getting a guy who may go down as the greatest QB in NFL history while never having his staff and front office gutted, including arguably the best DC in the NFL, that's what did it.
I mean, the fact we made it with Jimmy G is an insane testament to Kyle's ability to make the offense work without a God-tier QB.
Yup. And now the NFL has caught up to him and the guy is incapable of making any kind of adjustments. He's mediocre.
Nov 23, 2024 at 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:lol, mediocre does not get you 5 NFCCG and 3 SBs with 3 different teams
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Kyle was not what got Reid over the hump... Getting a guy who may go down as the greatest QB in NFL history while never having his staff and front office gutted, including arguably the best DC in the NFL, that's what did it.
I mean, the fact we made it with Jimmy G is an insane testament to Kyle's ability to make the offense work without a God-tier QB.
Yup. And now the NFL has caught up to him and the guy is incapable of making any kind of adjustments. He's mediocre.
the players are not executing
Nov 24, 2024 at 4:07 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:lol, mediocre does not get you 5 NFCCG and 3 SBs with 3 different teams
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.
TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.
Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.
Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.
There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.
Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
Kyle was not what got Reid over the hump... Getting a guy who may go down as the greatest QB in NFL history while never having his staff and front office gutted, including arguably the best DC in the NFL, that's what did it.
I mean, the fact we made it with Jimmy G is an insane testament to Kyle's ability to make the offense work without a God-tier QB.
Yup. And now the NFL has caught up to him and the guy is incapable of making any kind of adjustments. He's mediocre.
the players are not executing
5 NFCCG and 3 SBs = Kyle isn't mediocre
2 NFCCG and 3 SB losses = players didn't execute.
the Kyle spin is tremendous with this one
Nov 24, 2024 at 5:37 AM
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
We were up by 10 and controlling the game. Mahomes was held to field goals. We had multiple chances to win both Superbowls but choked. Literally choked it. Now admittedly Shanahan is good enough to get that 10 point lead and that's why he would be rather difficult to replace but nothing he's ever done leads me believe he will finish one. On the other hand there are good number of times, 3 this very season where we were playing well and choked. We could easily 8-2 right now but we're not. This is not an anomaly, the evidence is right there.
And it's not just one area. It's special teams, offense and defense...
Mahomes has a 3rd and 15 play where he dropped back about 20 yards on a shotgun play and made an elite pass to help win that game. Reid had absolutely nothing to do with that play being completed. Zero.
literally these games come down to one or two plays. SF had their chance and unfortunately we had Jimmy G who's 4th QR rating was the worst in SB history AND he still had a shot to make a play…and totally f**king blew it.
it's impossible to actually have a convo with you people. pretending a HC is the total reason for a loss and not holding any of these multi millionaire players accountable to actually play a game better is so freaking obnoxious.
Nov 24, 2024 at 5:40 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions
Yea but he's the head coach and chooses who's gets to be on this team. It all falls on him