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Originally posted by DrEll:
5 NFCCG and 3 SBs = Kyle isn't mediocre

2 NFCCG and 3 SB losses = players didn't execute.

the Kyle spin is tremendous with this one

Acting like anything he's done is bad is why no one takes anything you say seriously

players actually do have to execute. They're not robots. This isn't madden and the HCs don't have controllers.

Jimmy hits a WIDE OPEN sanders they win. Burford doesn't go full simple jack on a blocking assignment, Brock hits a WIDE OPEN BA for a TD. Brock hit the correct hot and they win, CMC fumble, Luter muffed punt etc etc.

Christ if the refs call one god damn holding call, the game is much different. Warner was bear hugged on a late game blitz.

Look dude (or lady) we get it you can't actually talk about football, so you resort to crying on a weekly basis. It's Insufferable and basic as s**t.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 24, 2024 at 5:45 AM ]
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DrEll:
5 NFCCG and 3 SBs = Kyle isn't mediocre

2 NFCCG and 3 SB losses = players didn't execute.

the Kyle spin is tremendous with this one

Acting like anything he's done is bad is why no one takes anything you say seriously

players actually do have to execute. They're not robots. This isn't madden and the HCs don't have controllers.

Jimmy hits a WIDE OPEN sanders they win. Burford doesn't go full simple jack on a blocking assignment, Brock hits a WIDE OPEN BA for a TD. Brock hit the correct hot and they win, CMC fumble, Luter muffed punt etc etc.

Christ if the refs call one god damn holding call, the game is much different. Warner was bear hugged on a late game blitz.

Look dude (or lady) we get it you can't actually talk about football, so you resort to crying on a weekly basis. It's Insufferable and basic as s**t.

It's silly someone would spend so much time trolling-blaming one person. Yah after the Super Bowl I said some s**t about Kyle and John Lynch but the next day I sobered up and came to my senses. What's this dudes excuse!!!!
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DrEll:
5 NFCCG and 3 SBs = Kyle isn't mediocre

2 NFCCG and 3 SB losses = players didn't execute.

the Kyle spin is tremendous with this one

Acting like anything he's done is bad is why no one takes anything you say seriously

players actually do have to execute. They're not robots. This isn't madden and the HCs don't have controllers.

Jimmy hits a WIDE OPEN sanders they win. Burford doesn't go full simple jack on a blocking assignment, Brock hits a WIDE OPEN BA for a TD. Brock hit the correct hot and they win, CMC fumble, Luter muffed punt etc etc.

Christ if the refs call one god damn holding call, the game is much different. Warner was bear hugged on a late game blitz.

Look dude (or lady) we get it you can't actually talk about football, so you resort to crying on a weekly basis. It's Insufferable and basic as s**t.
This one is for Doc

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Yea but he's the head coach and chooses who's gets to be on this team. It all falls on him
yeah but let's look at this logically. He did choose the players, but he didn't get to choose any player he wants, he has to choose from a limited supply.

With that choice limitation, he resurrected an awful franchise to a super bowl contender. A contender who made the SB twice with two almost completely different teams and two completely quarterbacks who are even close to being Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

He didn't just make the SB, he lead the entire time until it took some fluke plays to happen that no one has control over.

To say he sucks because of some uncontrollable plays is ridiculous and not really thinking rationally
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Yea but he's the head coach and chooses who's gets to be on this team. It all falls on him
yeah but let's look at this logically. He did choose the players, but he didn't get to choose any player he wants, he has to choose from a limited supply.

With that choice limitation, he resurrected an awful franchise to a super bowl contender. A contender who made the SB twice with two almost completely different teams and two completely quarterbacks who are even close to being Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

He didn't just make the SB, he lead the entire time until it took some fluke plays to happen that no one has control over.

To say he sucks because of some uncontrollable plays is ridiculous and not really thinking rationally

Some fans can't accept losses and need a scapegoat. The HC, QB and refs are the usual ones. Logic doesn't come into play. Emotions rule in sports.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Yea but he's the head coach and chooses who's gets to be on this team. It all falls on him
yeah but let's look at this logically. He did choose the players, but he didn't get to choose any player he wants, he has to choose from a limited supply.

With that choice limitation, he resurrected an awful franchise to a super bowl contender. A contender who made the SB twice with two almost completely different teams and two completely quarterbacks who are even close to being Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

He didn't just make the SB, he lead the entire time until it took some fluke plays to happen that no one has control over.

To say he sucks because of some uncontrollable plays is ridiculous and not really thinking rationally

Some fans can't accept losses and need a scapegoat. The HC, QB and refs are the usual ones. Logic doesn't come into play. Emotions rule in sports.

I agree and I have those emotions after the loses this year. I was hoping this was the year we finally win it. So expectations not being met can cause emotional immaturity. Basically, I'm guilty but after I have some time to process the play calling and play I see that we are just not executing and the play calling is not suiting the players we have left.

Shanahan may not win it all but who out there is better. We are blessed to have Brock he has not hit his ceiling yet and will get better. After getting over the
Emotional disappointment next year will be better. We won't lose all of our talent and if we have a good offseason we will be in contention again. This years draft went well we must keep that going.
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Yea but he's the head coach and chooses who's gets to be on this team. It all falls on him
yeah but let's look at this logically. He did choose the players, but he didn't get to choose any player he wants, he has to choose from a limited supply.

With that choice limitation, he resurrected an awful franchise to a super bowl contender. A contender who made the SB twice with two almost completely different teams and two completely quarterbacks who are even close to being Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

He didn't just make the SB, he lead the entire time until it took some fluke plays to happen that no one has control over.

To say he sucks because of some uncontrollable plays is ridiculous and not really thinking rationally

Some fans can't accept losses and need a scapegoat. The HC, QB and refs are the usual ones. Logic doesn't come into play. Emotions rule in sports.

I agree and I have those emotions after the loses this year. I was hoping this was the year we finally win it. So expectations not being met can cause emotional immaturity. Basically, I'm guilty but after I have some time to process the play calling and play I see that we are just not executing and the play calling is not suiting the players we have left.

Shanahan may not win it all but who out there is better. We are blessed to have Brock he has not hit his ceiling yet and will get better. After getting over the
Emotional disappointment next year will be better. We won't lose all of our talent and if we have a good offseason we will be in contention again. This years draft went well we must keep that going.

I'm disappointed too. Although I saw all the glory years I would still love another title. At my age the time is running short for another SB win. Still I feel fortunate that Kyle was able to get the team into the SB twice. Once a team is there it often comes down to a couple of plays that make the difference. There are so many fans that would love to be where the 49ers have been the last 5 seasons.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Yea but he's the head coach and chooses who's gets to be on this team. It all falls on him
yeah but let's look at this logically. He did choose the players, but he didn't get to choose any player he wants, he has to choose from a limited supply.

With that choice limitation, he resurrected an awful franchise to a super bowl contender. A contender who made the SB twice with two almost completely different teams and two completely quarterbacks who are even close to being Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

He didn't just make the SB, he lead the entire time until it took some fluke plays to happen that no one has control over.

To say he sucks because of some uncontrollable plays is ridiculous and not really thinking rationally

Some fans can't accept losses and need a scapegoat. The HC, QB and refs are the usual ones. Logic doesn't come into play. Emotions rule in sports.

I agree and I have those emotions after the loses this year. I was hoping this was the year we finally win it. So expectations not being met can cause emotional immaturity. Basically, I'm guilty but after I have some time to process the play calling and play I see that we are just not executing and the play calling is not suiting the players we have left.

Shanahan may not win it all but who out there is better. We are blessed to have Brock he has not hit his ceiling yet and will get better. After getting over the
Emotional disappointment next year will be better. We won't lose all of our talent and if we have a good offseason we will be in contention again. This years draft went well we must keep that going.

I'm disappointed too. Although I saw all the glory years I would still love another title. At my age the time is running short for another SB win. Still I feel fortunate that Kyle was able to get the team into the SB twice. Once a team is there it often comes down to a couple of plays that make the difference. There are so many fans that would love to be where the 49ers have been the last 5 seasons.

I also remember when we always won the superbowl when we got there. I did have emotional breakdowns as well back then. Craigs fumble was horrible. Think about being a Vikings or Bills fan they went 4 times and never won it once. I also am older and think I may not see us win one again but watching 5 wins was some of the best times of my life. Yes I live for watching the niners win lol.

We are blessed to see our team making it back. If you look at the other teams I'm grateful we are relevant and have been.

Kyle and Brock are very good just hope they get over the hump.
[ Edited by bassmanr on Nov 24, 2024 at 9:31 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.

TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.

Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.

Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.

There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.

Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?

Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?

Kyle and his team blew two 10 point leads in the Superbowl... True or false? I don't need a deflection I simply ask for a true or false. Did this happen or not?

I won't even bring up his terrible offensive performance in the second half against The Patriots. When literally all he had to do was do the exact opposite of what he was doing.. as always in big moments. Hey, just like last Sunday....
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Oh yeah he's just the Head Coach. The single constant in the losses despite different personnel and players.
If he's the constant… why do you stick your head in the ground on all the winning that surpasses a few losses

kinda like you did with jimmy?

Stick his head in the ground? Like you do?

Please enlighten the masses and tell me what exactly Shanahan has won?
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Hate to say it but it's time to fire Kyle.

I don't think that would be justified. I criticize his mistakes, but he has room to grow and if he learns from his mistakes he can be one of the all time great coaches like his dad.

Kyle is so young, imagine him 10 years from now? When Andy Reid ages out Kyle could run the league, even a dynasty is possible.

I've been all over his mistakes but we can do a lot worse than KS. See the coaches in between Harbaugh and KS. I wish we would have kept Harbaugh but Kyle is probably the second best option after JH. KS could wind up being better if he plays his cards right and learns from his mistakes.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.

TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.

Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.

Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.

There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.

Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.

Kyle was not what got Reid over the hump... Getting a guy who may go down as the greatest QB in NFL history while never having his staff and front office gutted, including arguably the best DC in the NFL, that's what did it.

I mean, the fact we made it with Jimmy G is an insane testament to Kyle's ability to make the offense work without a God-tier QB.

Yup. And now the NFL has caught up to him and the guy is incapable of making any kind of adjustments. He's mediocre.
lol, mediocre does not get you 5 NFCCG and 3 SBs with 3 different teams

the players are not executing

So who got the Team to those 5 NFCCG and 3 SBs? Not the players right? Can't be because they are not executing.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.

TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.

Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.

Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.

There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.

Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?

Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?

Kyle and his team blew two 10 point leads in the Superbowl... True or false? I don't need a deflection I simply ask for a true or false. Did this happen or not?

I won't even bring up his terrible offensive performance in the second half against The Patriots. When literally all he had to do was do the exact opposite of what he was doing.. as always in big moments. Hey, just like last Sunday....
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Oh yeah he's just the Head Coach. The single constant in the losses despite different personnel and players.
If he's the constant… why do you stick your head in the ground on all the winning that surpasses a few losses

kinda like you did with jimmy?

Oh and after Jimmy proved he couldn't get it done and win a Super Bowl is when I was fine with moving on. Meanwhile you are the biggest hypocrite in the world. Do you remember how you used to literally cry after wins? Literally b***h and moan for days upon days because air yards and literally nothing else. Now the team is 5-5 and you don't say a word. You love losing. All because air yards and literally nothing else. Losing is great as long as air yards. Your entire football knowledge.
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
what's hilarious is if Kyle went 1-1 in the SB, he's untouchable for as long as he wants to be here….one game changes all the Kyle whiners opinions. One game, that's how out of touch ya'll are. Zero perspective.

TBH, Super Bowl wins aren't a perfect barometer for a quality coach. Pederson, Billick, McCarthy being prime examples.

Andy Reid took TWENTY YEARS to win a championship. In fact, Kyle has actually had MORE success than Andy had at the same point in their careers.

Kyle 2 super bowl appearances, 2 NFC championship appearances in 7 years versus 1 super super bowl appearance and 3 NFC championship appearances for Andy.

There are valid frustrations and criticisms of Kyle because.. newsflash, no one's perfect, but there is zero justification for firing him. Kyle continues to produce regardless of his personnel, and that's a mark of an elite HC.

Andy was a choke artist too until he met Kyle. Let's not forget that 2 of his 3 are from Kyle. In reality if Kyle didn't choke massively Reid would only have one ring and Kyle would have 2. Luckily for KC and Andy they lucked out on Kyle and his chokeness.
lol you're part of the simplejack crew also huh.. you jumped off the jimmy wagon?

Very nice rebuttal Gore. Fantastic.
what is there to refute.. verbal diarrhea ?

Kyle and his team blew two 10 point leads in the Superbowl... True or false? I don't need a deflection I simply ask for a true or false. Did this happen or not?

I won't even bring up his terrible offensive performance in the second half against The Patriots. When literally all he had to do was do the exact opposite of what he was doing.. as always in big moments. Hey, just like last Sunday....
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Oh yeah he's just the Head Coach. The single constant in the losses despite different personnel and players.
If he's the constant… why do you stick your head in the ground on all the winning that surpasses a few losses

kinda like you did with jimmy?

Oh and after Jimmy proved he couldn't get it done and win a Super Bowl is when I was fine with moving on. Meanwhile you are the biggest hypocrite in the world. Do you remember how you used to literally cry after wins? Literally b***h and moan for days upon days because air yards and literally nothing else. Now the team is 5-5 and you don't say a word. You love losing. All because air yards and literally nothing else. Losing is great as long as air yards. Your entire football knowledge.

49All will never stop replying to your posts with nonsense. He's the kind of guy who "did his own research" lol.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Hate to say it but it's time to fire Kyle.

I don't think that would be justified. I criticize his mistakes, but he has room to grow and if he learns from his mistakes he can be one of the all time great coaches like his dad.

Kyle is so young, imagine him 10 years from now? When Andy Reid ages out Kyle could run the league, even a dynasty is possible.

I've been all over his mistakes but we can do a lot worse than KS. See the coaches in between Harbaugh and KS. I wish we would have kept Harbaugh but Kyle is probably the second best option after JH. KS could wind up being better if he plays his cards right and learns from his mistakes.

They canned Harbs without ever having a losing season. Kyle has had numerous and he's in his way to another.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
False, Kyle is not on the field or play any positions

Yea but he's the head coach and chooses who's gets to be on this team. It all falls on him
yeah but let's look at this logically. He did choose the players, but he didn't get to choose any player he wants, he has to choose from a limited supply.

With that choice limitation, he resurrected an awful franchise to a super bowl contender. A contender who made the SB twice with two almost completely different teams and two completely quarterbacks who are even close to being Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

He didn't just make the SB, he lead the entire time until it took some fluke plays to happen that no one has control over.

To say he sucks because of some uncontrollable plays is ridiculous and not really thinking rationally

Some fans can't accept losses and need a scapegoat. The HC, QB and refs are the usual ones. Logic doesn't come into play. Emotions rule in sports.

Oh so why do coaches get fired when the team underperforms explain it to me please. I'm beginning to wonder if you guys even know what a head coach is. You obviously dont. I'm not just saying that. Why did Saleh get fired? Let's talk logic lol. Tell me exactly what a HC is and what his role is since you insinuate he has literally nothing to do with the teams performance.
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