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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
next year with no injuries, 49ers are back being contenders again and all those calling for Kyle's firing looks silly.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:imagine losing your future starter, past starter and making it to a NFCCG with the last pick in the draft all in the same year.. but Kyle is the problem ?Originally posted by OnTheClock:How tf did our teams in the 90s never get hurt? I mean at worst I remember Young missed some games but we literally had a starting caliber, Pro Bowl QB In Grbac behind him (Elvis went to a Pro Bowl with KC).
Outside of his rookie year, Kyle has been a perennial playoff contender every time his team wasn't crazy injured.
Outside of that, we've only sucked when we've been decimated by injury: 2018 (Jimmy to IR), 2020 (16 players on IR), and this year (19 players on IR/PUP or missed 3+ games). I mean let's be honest.. I don't care how smart or how good you are, you aren't overcoming an injury list this massive. The more I think about this, the more I realize we are probably doing way better than the odds would say we should be.
i like to see how many HCs can do that
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by VA9erfan:
I think Kyle's done. Jed might not have to fire him as he might resign/hang it up. Dude looked tired, old, and apathetic at the press conference.
yup. ppl don't consider the psychology of it. he built it up. now we are on the downswing. and everyone knows it. it's not about 'is he a good coach'. it's about is he burnt out? does he have the energy to reboot this thing over a handful of years? would that even work? with how stagnant we are, i was open to a fresh set of eyes last offseason, if those eyes were Belichick.
I think you guys are reading your own fantasies into the situation. Kyle wants to be a HC for another 20+ years. He decided that a long, long time ago. He's not gonna retire in his mid-40s.
He'll have an extra month to reflect upon this past season this offseason. Knowing Kyle he won't want to stand pat. Shanahan has always made bold moves to overcome what he saw as flaws and inefficiencies. Expect some huge personnel and staff overhauls this offseason.
One could argue you're doing the same thing.
Originally posted by Jake_Booty:Don`t forget Solomon Thomas pick when both Mahomes and Watson were setting there and Kyle was waiting for Cousin to be a free agent, also Kyle jumping up and down on the table during the draft for the RB Williams who didn`t feel like playing football anymore after he was drafted in the 3 rd round...Kyle needs to come clean and own his own freaking short-comings and DO BETTER
Absolutely should have never went after Hargrave he's trash and always has been. The Trey Lance knee jerk covid pick was another blunder that basically left us devoid of quality picks for years. The third round Moody pick was bizarre, I thought it was a joke at first lol. 99% of kickers don't even get drafted. It used to be 100% until Kyle drafted him. Was he high on meth at the time?
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
, also Kyle jumping up and down on the table during the draft for the RB Williams who didn`t feel like playing football anymore after he was drafted in the 3 rd round.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
, also Kyle jumping up and down on the table during the draft for the RB Williams who didn`t feel like playing football anymore after he was drafted in the 3 rd round.
"Jumping up and down on the table" is quite the exaggeration. He was really intrigued by the guy and decided to take a chance. It didn't work out. Oh well. Happens everyday year for every team in every draft.
Originally posted by BP13:
Michael Silver was right when he termed this summer, "bad vibe summer." The heartbreaking SB defeat, the holdouts, the injuries, it all lead to a lost season.
Fact is, Kyle led this team to a SB in year 3, and then rebounded from a lost season in 2021. I fully believe this team needs a breather and Kyle and the team will be back to their usual dominant selves next season.
The injuries especially, like 2020, were too much to overcome. we will be back.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
, also Kyle jumping up and down on the table during the draft for the RB Williams who didn`t feel like playing football anymore after he was drafted in the 3 rd round.
"Jumping up and down on the table" is quite the exaggeration. He was really intrigued by the guy and decided to take a chance. It didn't work out. Oh well. Happens everyday year for every team in every draft.
Pounding the table is more like it, despite knowing he had quit on his team in college
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I'll attempt to be rational here.
I expect ST and DC gone. In fact most of the DC staff should be gone and let a new DC bring in his people? Dont demand a scheme, just find a good coach who will get the most out of our talent on defense. Something to that effect. I think the OL guy sucks. Hire new blood and ideas on the offense in a way that helps Kyle.
I keep coming back to this point week after week, we do not dominate the trenches at all anymore. It all starts from there, so they need to reinvest in the trenches as a priority. They have plenty of players to build around. While it's disheartening to see the drop off, they can turn it around, but it is asking for a lot of things to work out and fall into place rather quickly.
Originally posted by DrEll:injuries after a SB have done it again
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/186496-the-49ers-season-is-over/
Please read this article. And figure out who's really T fault for this team's downfall…
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I'll attempt to be rational here.
I expect ST and DC gone. In fact most of the DC staff should be gone and let a new DC bring in his people? Dont demand a scheme, just find a good coach who will get the most out of our talent on defense. Something to that effect. I think the OL guy sucks. Hire new blood and ideas on the offense in a way that helps Kyle.
I keep coming back to this point week after week, we do not dominate the trenches at all anymore. It all starts from there, so they need to reinvest in the trenches as a priority. They have plenty of players to build around. While it's disheartening to see the drop off, they can turn it around, but it is asking for a lot of things to work out and fall into place rather quickly.
This is a rational post that makes a lot of sense.
They do need to get way better in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I'd argue that on offense, their OL has never dominated the trenches under Shanahan. I remember well the glory days when the Niners absolutely would dominate the trenches on both sides of the ball. Winning in the trenches is so important towards winning championships.
Hopefully, it will be figured out you can't just continue to roll out guys like Brendel & McKivitz and expect the offense to function consistently effective like this teams wants, especially against more talented teams/more talented D-linemen. And, you would think this team with a talented young QB like Purdy would absolutely make sure to find or acquire strong OL talent (especially in the middle - thankfully they found Puni) to protect him as a passer & help him be more effective overall with a better balanced attack with stronger run blocking.
Look how the Lions built up their OL in front of Goff…the Chiefs in front of Mahomes…the Packers in front of Love…the Eagles in front of Hurts, etc.