49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I have to admit that I'm beginning to wonder about Kyle a bit. Mason and Guerendo have both shown that their capable of contributing to the offense, but as soon as McCaffery comes back, they're relegated to spot duty again. What did CMC have on his first game back after having at tendinitis in BOTH his Achilles Heels, something like 50? I mean, there was absolutely no reason for that, and in the game on Sunday Mason once again showed that he could be an explosive alternative in the run game. They're going to lose Mason once his contract comes up because there's little incentive for him to stick around when he has a chance to go someplace that will actually let him play.

I also have to wonder about the wisdom of extending Aiyuk the way they did. Don't get me wrong, I like Aiyuk, but I don't really see him as a $28 million a year receiver, or whatever it is he's getting. I think they could have traded him and given his snaps to Jennings, whose proved he can get the job done when given a chance, maybe not to the level that Aiyuk can in certain circumstances, but with Brock's payday looming over the franchise you'd think they would realize they need to start saving their money. I actually like what Deebo brings to the offense more than Aiyuk, but it sure seems like his style of play is beginning to limit his effectiveness and availability

CMC is worlds better than Mason and Guerrendo. He looks 95% to me, but rusty. Aside those three can only do so much behind a weak o-line. That doesn't mean don't play the other though. Kyle has always had issues with player management on game days. Apparently it will never change.

I dont think most had an issue with Paying Aiyuk, only the long hold out that increases the chances of a down year. Nobody plans on a season ending injury though. Just bad luck tbh. When he was signed we had super bowl aspirations. How quickly that can change. Deebo I love, but at this point he requires a lot of the scheme to work in order to contribute and that has barely happened this year. Aiyuk and Jennings is a great 1-2 if healthy imo.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I have to admit that I'm beginning to wonder about Kyle a bit. Mason and Guerendo have both shown that their capable of contributing to the offense, but as soon as McCaffery comes back, they're relegated to spot duty again. What did CMC have on his first game back after having at tendinitis in BOTH his Achilles Heels, something like 50? I mean, there was absolutely no reason for that, and in the game on Sunday Mason once again showed that he could be an explosive alternative in the run game. They're going to lose Mason once his contract comes up because there's little incentive for him to stick around when he has a chance to go someplace that will actually let him play.

I also have to wonder about the wisdom of extending Aiyuk the way they did. Don't get me wrong, I like Aiyuk, but I don't really see him as a $28 million a year receiver, or whatever it is he's getting. I think they could have traded him and given his snaps to Jennings, whose proved he can get the job done when given a chance, maybe not to the level that Aiyuk can in certain circumstances, but with Brock's payday looming over the franchise you'd think they would realize they need to start saving their money. I actually like what Deebo brings to the offense more than Aiyuk, but it sure seems like his style of play is beginning to limit his effectiveness and availability

CMC is worlds better than Mason and Guerrendo. He looks 95% to me, but rusty. Aside those three can only do so much behind a weak o-line. That doesn't mean don't play the other though. Kyle has always had issues with player management on game days. Apparently it will never change.

I dont think most had an issue with Paying Aiyuk, only the long hold out that increases the chances of a down year. Nobody plans on a season ending injury though. Just bad luck tbh. When he was signed we had super bowl aspirations. How quickly that can change. Deebo I love, but at this point he requires a lot of the scheme to work in order to contribute and that has barely happened this year. Aiyuk and Jennings is a great 1-2 if healthy imo.

I had an issue with paying Aiyuk. He may be their best receiver but he's not a game breaker like Chase or Jefferson. I have no problem with him getting a raise but this trend of every player getting more than the other guy is BS.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I have to admit that I'm beginning to wonder about Kyle a bit. Mason and Guerendo have both shown that their capable of contributing to the offense, but as soon as McCaffery comes back, they're relegated to spot duty again. What did CMC have on his first game back after having at tendinitis in BOTH his Achilles Heels, something like 50? I mean, there was absolutely no reason for that, and in the game on Sunday Mason once again showed that he could be an explosive alternative in the run game. They're going to lose Mason once his contract comes up because there's little incentive for him to stick around when he has a chance to go someplace that will actually let him play.

I also have to wonder about the wisdom of extending Aiyuk the way they did. Don't get me wrong, I like Aiyuk, but I don't really see him as a $28 million a year receiver, or whatever it is he's getting. I think they could have traded him and given his snaps to Jennings, whose proved he can get the job done when given a chance, maybe not to the level that Aiyuk can in certain circumstances, but with Brock's payday looming over the franchise you'd think they would realize they need to start saving their money. I actually like what Deebo brings to the offense more than Aiyuk, but it sure seems like his style of play is beginning to limit his effectiveness and availability

CMC is worlds better than Mason and Guerrendo. He looks 95% to me, but rusty. Aside those three can only do so much behind a weak o-line. That doesn't mean don't play the other though. Kyle has always had issues with player management on game days. Apparently it will never change.

I dont think most had an issue with Paying Aiyuk, only the long hold out that increases the chances of a down year. Nobody plans on a season ending injury though. Just bad luck tbh. When he was signed we had super bowl aspirations. How quickly that can change. Deebo I love, but at this point he requires a lot of the scheme to work in order to contribute and that has barely happened this year. Aiyuk and Jennings is a great 1-2 if healthy imo.

I had an issue with paying Aiyuk. He may be their best receiver but he's not a game breaker like Chase or Jefferson. I have no problem with him getting a raise but this trend of every player getting more than the other guy is BS.

That is fair. I did say most, not all! I agree the WR market is dumb, but its not like the price will ever go down and everyone agreed we weren't winning it all without him. They need to draft better, but we haven't been doing that very well. Pearsall so far = whatever.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I have to admit that I'm beginning to wonder about Kyle a bit. Mason and Guerendo have both shown that their capable of contributing to the offense, but as soon as McCaffery comes back, they're relegated to spot duty again. What did CMC have on his first game back after having at tendinitis in BOTH his Achilles Heels, something like 50? I mean, there was absolutely no reason for that, and in the game on Sunday Mason once again showed that he could be an explosive alternative in the run game. They're going to lose Mason once his contract comes up because there's little incentive for him to stick around when he has a chance to go someplace that will actually let him play.

I also have to wonder about the wisdom of extending Aiyuk the way they did. Don't get me wrong, I like Aiyuk, but I don't really see him as a $28 million a year receiver, or whatever it is he's getting. I think they could have traded him and given his snaps to Jennings, whose proved he can get the job done when given a chance, maybe not to the level that Aiyuk can in certain circumstances, but with Brock's payday looming over the franchise you'd think they would realize they need to start saving their money. I actually like what Deebo brings to the offense more than Aiyuk, but it sure seems like his style of play is beginning to limit his effectiveness and availability

CMC is worlds better than Mason and Guerrendo. He looks 95% to me, but rusty. Aside those three can only do so much behind a weak o-line. That doesn't mean don't play the other though. Kyle has always had issues with player management on game days. Apparently it will never change.

I dont think most had an issue with Paying Aiyuk, only the long hold out that increases the chances of a down year. Nobody plans on a season ending injury though. Just bad luck tbh. When he was signed we had super bowl aspirations. How quickly that can change. Deebo I love, but at this point he requires a lot of the scheme to work in order to contribute and that has barely happened this year. Aiyuk and Jennings is a great 1-2 if healthy imo.

I had an issue with paying Aiyuk. He may be their best receiver but he's not a game breaker like Chase or Jefferson. I have no problem with him getting a raise but this trend of every player getting more than the other guy is BS.

That is fair. I did say most, not all! I agree the WR market is dumb, but its not like the price will ever go down and everyone agreed we weren't winning it all without him. They need to draft better, but we haven't been doing that very well. Pearsall so far = whatever.

I don't think this team would be winning it all even with him. My issue is that over paying certain positions keeps them from signing better players along both lines. If he was getting paid $15 million that other $15 milion could be used to sign 3 pretty good linemen or whatever they think they need.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I have to admit that I'm beginning to wonder about Kyle a bit. Mason and Guerendo have both shown that their capable of contributing to the offense, but as soon as McCaffery comes back, they're relegated to spot duty again. What did CMC have on his first game back after having at tendinitis in BOTH his Achilles Heels, something like 50? I mean, there was absolutely no reason for that, and in the game on Sunday Mason once again showed that he could be an explosive alternative in the run game. They're going to lose Mason once his contract comes up because there's little incentive for him to stick around when he has a chance to go someplace that will actually let him play.

I also have to wonder about the wisdom of extending Aiyuk the way they did. Don't get me wrong, I like Aiyuk, but I don't really see him as a $28 million a year receiver, or whatever it is he's getting. I think they could have traded him and given his snaps to Jennings, whose proved he can get the job done when given a chance, maybe not to the level that Aiyuk can in certain circumstances, but with Brock's payday looming over the franchise you'd think they would realize they need to start saving their money. I actually like what Deebo brings to the offense more than Aiyuk, but it sure seems like his style of play is beginning to limit his effectiveness and availability

CMC is worlds better than Mason and Guerrendo. He looks 95% to me, but rusty. Aside those three can only do so much behind a weak o-line. That doesn't mean don't play the other though. Kyle has always had issues with player management on game days. Apparently it will never change.

I dont think most had an issue with Paying Aiyuk, only the long hold out that increases the chances of a down year. Nobody plans on a season ending injury though. Just bad luck tbh. When he was signed we had super bowl aspirations. How quickly that can change. Deebo I love, but at this point he requires a lot of the scheme to work in order to contribute and that has barely happened this year. Aiyuk and Jennings is a great 1-2 if healthy imo.

I had an issue with paying Aiyuk. He may be their best receiver but he's not a game breaker like Chase or Jefferson. I have no problem with him getting a raise but this trend of every player getting more than the other guy is BS.

That is fair. I did say most, not all! I agree the WR market is dumb, but its not like the price will ever go down and everyone agreed we weren't winning it all without him. They need to draft better, but we haven't been doing that very well. Pearsall so far = whatever.

I don't think this team would be winning it all even with him. My issue is that over paying certain positions keeps them from signing better players along both lines. If he was getting paid $15 million that other $15 milion could be used to sign 3 pretty good linemen or whatever they think they need.

I don't disagree and I am not surprised either. I think Deebo is gone. I am not sure how much that saves us. I think Banks is gone. Really i only want to keep Greenlaw if healthy. Ward would be nice, but i doubt it.

Is it true that we were top 3 rushing attack before CMC came back, and now we're 21st in the 3 weeks since he has ?

Mason has practically been benched for CMC.

who do we blame for that ? The oline ? The oline that made Mason one of the leading RBs in the first half of the season, now became automatically the worst over the past month ?

Not Kyle's fault ?

i do credit shanny for the kitchen sink trick play in the packers game
more of that. why not deebo throwing to JJ

Originally posted by DrEll:
Is it true that we were top 3 rushing attack before CMC came back, and now we're 21st in the 3 weeks since he has ?

Mason has practically been benched for CMC.

who do we blame for that ? The oline ? The oline that made Mason one of the leading RBs in the first half of the season, now became automatically the worst over the past month ?

Not Kyle's fault ?

typical. you post without detail.

Mason was bad in the Red Zone. the film has shown this. and you need to play CMC to get him back in game shape.

Originally posted by boast:
typical. you post without detail.

Mason was bad in the Red Zone. the film has shown this. and you need to play CMC to get him back in game shape.

play CMC, but the announcers shouldn't be saying wow here's Mason who has been benched entirely he's actually seeing they field. they were stunned. It should be a series on and a series off. more of a balance there.

I havent seen a hole for CMC to hit. Mason had holes early on but as the season progressed the holes regressed. The online is playing like poop.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
typical. you post without detail.

Mason was bad in the Red Zone. the film has shown this. and you need to play CMC to get him back in game shape.

play CMC, but the announcers shouldn't be saying wow here's Mason who has been benched entirely he's actually seeing they field. they were stunned. It should be a series on and a series off. more of a balance there.

ehh. going into the game, everyone....EVERYONE was saying the team needed to lean on CMC because Purdy was out. nobody was afraid of Brandon Allen so the Packers D played accordingly. now all the monday morning armchair GMs are claiming that CMC is being used too much.

Originally posted by miked1978:
I havent seen a hole for CMC to hit. Mason had holes early on but as the season progressed the holes regressed. The online is playing like poop.

Brendel shouldn't be on an NFL roster, let alone starting. He's not just physically overmatched, he consistently commits dumb penalties. He and Banks have been the biggest liabilities by far on the OL.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:
typical. you post without detail.

Mason was bad in the Red Zone. the film has shown this. and you need to play CMC to get him back in game shape.

play CMC, but the announcers shouldn't be saying wow here's Mason who has been benched entirely he's actually seeing they field. they were stunned. It should be a series on and a series off. more of a balance there.

ehh. going into the game, everyone....EVERYONE was saying the team needed to lean on CMC because Purdy was out. nobody was afraid of Brandon Allen so the Packers D played accordingly. now all the monday morning armchair GMs are claiming that CMC is being used too much.

I don't recall this one bit. Most of us have been saying Mason should relieve CMC a lot more. It's borderline common sense.

Originally posted by boast:
ehh. going into the game, everyone....EVERYONE was saying the team needed to lean on CMC because Purdy was out. nobody was afraid of Brandon Allen so the Packers D played accordingly. now all the monday morning armchair GMs are claiming that CMC is being used too much.

not really. ppl said for years going back to last season that Mason needs more in the mix. heck I think Brady said it during the broadcast. it's been a repeated refrain for a long time. in fact, if one wanted to connect some sort of thru line between the heavy usage last season on CMC and his availability, i've seen a lot of studies that 300+ carries lead to bad things the next year. he had 339 touches last year, and that's just regular season. obviously a lot more in postseason.

I believe in Kyle, but this still cracked me up