Originally posted by wysiwyg:exactly.. coaches don't do that by luck to be there and be in the lead the entire game
Originally posted by wysiwyg:By 10 point leads in the 4th quarter
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MasterBlaster:you don't get to two SBs and 4 NFCCGs by luck
Some people are just meant to go through life as a good Offensive Coordinator and are NOT Head Coach material. At this point I'm not sure Kyle is EITHER! It seems the game has passed him up already.
He's lost all of those
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Dec 1, 2024 at 8:47 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Dec 1, 2024 at 8:50 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:what do you mean.. better teams lose the SB a lot of the times.. Pats twice, Seattle, Cinici not too long ago
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MasterBlaster:you don't get to two SBs and 4 NFCCGs by luck
Some people are just meant to go through life as a good Offensive Coordinator and are NOT Head Coach material. At this point I'm not sure Kyle is EITHER! It seems the game has passed him up already.
.. and you don't lose twice in the Super Bowl w/the better teams both times..
I'm not sure the Patriots was the better team the 2nd Super Bowl against the Giants..
Seattle LOST that Super Bowl to the PATS... BECAUSE of play calling !! lol.. Just like how the Falcons lost to the Patriots.. .. lol..
... and if you even think about all the teams you just mentioned, what was the reason that they lost? COACHING..
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:52 PM
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Originally posted by 9moon:i gave you examples of it happening. (sh)it happens
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:what do you mean.. better teams lose the SB a lot of the times.. Pats twice, Seattle, Cinici not too long ago
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MasterBlaster:you don't get to two SBs and 4 NFCCGs by luck
Some people are just meant to go through life as a good Offensive Coordinator and are NOT Head Coach material. At this point I'm not sure Kyle is EITHER! It seems the game has passed him up already.
.. and you don't lose twice in the Super Bowl w/the better teams both times..
I'm not sure the Patriots was the better team the 2nd Super Bowl against the Giants..
Seattle LOST that Super Bowl to the PATS... BECAUSE of play calling !! lol.. Just like how the Falcons lost to the Patriots.. .. lol..
... and if you even think about all the teams you just mentioned, what was the reason that they lost? COACHING..
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:52 PM
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We need coaches with fire. Can Kyle rebuild the whole staff in one offseason?
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:53 PM
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Some guys are guys are coaches.
Some guys are coordinators.
At this point, Shartinhishand is neither. He's in like coach limbo. He sucks at both.
Some guys are coordinators.
At this point, Shartinhishand is neither. He's in like coach limbo. He sucks at both.
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:53 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:i gave you examples of it happening. (sh)it happens
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9moon:what do you mean.. better teams lose the SB a lot of the times.. Pats twice, Seattle, Cinici not too long ago
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MasterBlaster:you don't get to two SBs and 4 NFCCGs by luck
Some people are just meant to go through life as a good Offensive Coordinator and are NOT Head Coach material. At this point I'm not sure Kyle is EITHER! It seems the game has passed him up already.
.. and you don't lose twice in the Super Bowl w/the better teams both times..
I'm not sure the Patriots was the better team the 2nd Super Bowl against the Giants..
Seattle LOST that Super Bowl to the PATS... BECAUSE of play calling !! lol.. Just like how the Falcons lost to the Patriots.. .. lol..
... and if you even think about all the teams you just mentioned, what was the reason that they lost? COACHING..
NONE of the teams you mentioned was THE better teams.. aside the 1st Patriots Super Game vs the Giants.. their 2nd Super Bowl, they were NOT the better team.. they were pretty much even..
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:57 PM
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I feel like Kyle should do some shrooms/LSD and re work his mind. Re wire his brains and do things differently
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:57 PM
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Shannafans: "if we fire Shanahan we'll go back to the Tomsula years"
News flash: We're already there.
News flash: We're already there.
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:59 PM
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Originally posted by Koldo:
Shannafans: "if we fire Shanahan we'll go back to the Tomsula years"
News flash: We're already there.
NOT sure why the BLINDERS just wont fall !!!
lol
Dec 1, 2024 at 8:59 PM
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Kyle, like Brock with QBs seeing garbage numbers in 2024, is having a pretty typical season for some of the leagues top coaches. It's been a bonkers year of upside down offenses, turnovers, weird calls, and wild plays that have impacted the whole league. The only reason Andy Reid isn't being yelled about is their magically bullcrap record. The Cheifs have played little better just have had the best luck of any Super Bowl winner ever. Kyle is responsible for some of it but the idea a new HC will have changed anything except maybe drafting another OL at the expense of our skilled positions that have been eaten alive by injuries. People need to get over themselves and stop believing winning a Super Bowl is just a few good decisions away when we've been hands down the best of the best twice and still got manhandled by the randomness of reality.
Dec 1, 2024 at 9:00 PM
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Fire Kyle.
Enough is enough.
He has had his chances and failed miserably.
Enough is enough.
He has had his chances and failed miserably.
Dec 1, 2024 at 9:01 PM
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Originally posted by Koldo:
Shannafans: "if we fire Shanahan we'll go back to the Tomsula years"
News flash: We're already there.
Oh no, we are definitely not there yet. This can get much, much worse. This is far more like 2020 than it is 2015 or 2016. At worse I'll give you 2014.
[ Edited by captveg on Dec 1, 2024 at 9:01 PM ]
Dec 1, 2024 at 9:02 PM
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We need Robert Saleh back as DC. Just dish out the money for like a 5 year contract so we can have some consistency. Especially since there is no coach salary cap there is no reason to get a new defensive coach every year.
Dec 1, 2024 at 9:02 PM
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Originally posted by captveg:we had two bad injury plagued years, 2018 and 2020. and we bounced back, not once, but twice
Originally posted by Koldo:
Shannafans: "if we fire Shanahan we'll go back to the Tomsula years"
News flash: We're already there.
Oh no, we are definitely not there yet. This can get much, much worse. This is far more like 2020 than it is 2015 or 2026. At worse I'll give you 2014.
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 1, 2024 at 9:02 PM ]
Dec 1, 2024 at 9:02 PM
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The NFL is what you have done for me lately league
Bill Beli is unemployed
Peter Carroll is unemployed
Doug Pederson just got fired
All of these coaches not only have been to superbowls, but they have actually won them. And not pretend wins like having leads at some point of the game.
And yet they were all fired. If they can be questioned and fired, why can't Kyle ?
I don't get why Kyle is looked upon like he's some genius who cant be criticized and has no reliable alternative. Should he be on the hot seat is a reasonable question to ask. I don't think he will be let go after this season unless he resigns. But questions need to be asked and acknowledged. Pretending like Kyle isn't culpable for anything is just delaying the inevitable.
It's not Kyle its Wilks....well who hired Wilks and then asked him to run the 49ers defense and not Wilks version ?
It's not Kyle its Sorensen...well who hired Sorensen ?
It's not Kyle its Brock...well why is Brock on the team and why was Lance acquired for three 1st rounders ? Who did that ?
It's not Kyle its McKivitz/Brendel....well why didn't Kyle upgrade RT or C when he had a chance ?
It's not Kyle its Moody....do I even need to say this ? Who drafted him in the third and now cant let go of him ?
It's not Kyle its Brian Scheider....well why isnt BS fired ?
It's not Kyle its Campbell....well who picked up Campbell in FA ?
It's not Kyle its Brown....well who picked up Brown in the draft ?
Like what are we talking about here ?
Id at least want Kyle to acknowledge issues and attempt to address them. Instead of the whole "insert head in echochamber" and "pretend we're doing everything right".
Seattle had no problems just straight cutting some players they themselves just signed or traded for this midseason. They now have a better record with a worse roster than ours.
Does Kyle even have the balls to straight up cut Moody, Juice, etc ?
Bill Beli is unemployed
Peter Carroll is unemployed
Doug Pederson just got fired
All of these coaches not only have been to superbowls, but they have actually won them. And not pretend wins like having leads at some point of the game.
And yet they were all fired. If they can be questioned and fired, why can't Kyle ?
I don't get why Kyle is looked upon like he's some genius who cant be criticized and has no reliable alternative. Should he be on the hot seat is a reasonable question to ask. I don't think he will be let go after this season unless he resigns. But questions need to be asked and acknowledged. Pretending like Kyle isn't culpable for anything is just delaying the inevitable.
It's not Kyle its Wilks....well who hired Wilks and then asked him to run the 49ers defense and not Wilks version ?
It's not Kyle its Sorensen...well who hired Sorensen ?
It's not Kyle its Brock...well why is Brock on the team and why was Lance acquired for three 1st rounders ? Who did that ?
It's not Kyle its McKivitz/Brendel....well why didn't Kyle upgrade RT or C when he had a chance ?
It's not Kyle its Moody....do I even need to say this ? Who drafted him in the third and now cant let go of him ?
It's not Kyle its Brian Scheider....well why isnt BS fired ?
It's not Kyle its Campbell....well who picked up Campbell in FA ?
It's not Kyle its Brown....well who picked up Brown in the draft ?
Like what are we talking about here ?
Id at least want Kyle to acknowledge issues and attempt to address them. Instead of the whole "insert head in echochamber" and "pretend we're doing everything right".
Seattle had no problems just straight cutting some players they themselves just signed or traded for this midseason. They now have a better record with a worse roster than ours.
Does Kyle even have the balls to straight up cut Moody, Juice, etc ?