49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
You notice how all the names that are hurt this year are the guys who were demanding a s**t ton of money in the off-season? They need to just mail the rest of this season in and get a high draft pick.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
It is totally relevant and true. CMC, Brandon Aiyuk and Trent Williams. There is upwards of $60 million salary cap.

What about Brock, Kittle, Jennings, Mason, Bosa, Hargrave, Greenlaw, Lenoir, Huf, Wish etc...

All guys who have been banged up and missed time...

Bosa got his money, Hargrave got his money...even Kittle got his money so yes, they are the money men.

Of course everyone plays with injuries throughout the season. Kansas City are beat up. Detroit are beat up and they are still winning.

Detroit and KC beat up, like who?

Detroit and Kansas City have their injuries and are still winning.

Shanahan looks like a coach without answers and the team looks like they've given up on him. I've seen plenty of good and bad teams over the years. I don't want Shanahan gone, but it seems inevitable. If not this season, then next. Once a team has quit, as we seem to have, it's really hard for any coach to pull them back.

I don't know if it's the lost SBs, questionable decisions, or something else. All I know is I've seen plenty of teams where the coach is no longer resonating with the team, and this really looks like one right now. Hopefully Shanny can put Humpty Dumpty back together again, but I'd be surprised.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
You notice how all the names that are hurt this year are the guys who were demanding a s**t ton of money in the off-season? They need to just mail the rest of this season in and get a high draft pick.

No, I didn't notice that. Because it isn't true and even if it was, it is irrelevant.

Lol what? Of course it's relevant.

The salary cap exists for a reason. When 80% of your cap space is constantly sitting on IR or on the bench it objectively puts you at a clear disadvantage.

This is why our season was realistically over the moment Aiyuk was confirmed out for the season. You don't lose $30M in cap space and be the same team.

team was overhyped. i remember ppl trying to tell me last season that oh, it's the greatest O in NFL history outside of 2007 patriots according to advanced nonsense. no dude, it wasn't that. i've seen the montana and young teams. it wasn't the greatest O in team history. 94 was way better for example. no contest. the O struggled all playoffs including the SB. they were good last year but we kinda believed our own hype a lil too much. go back to 94 we were blowing the doors off teams in the playoffs including a dynasty team.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
You notice how all the names that are hurt this year are the guys who were demanding a s**t ton of money in the off-season? They need to just mail the rest of this season in and get a high draft pick.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
It is totally relevant and true. CMC, Brandon Aiyuk and Trent Williams. There is upwards of $60 million salary cap.

What about Brock, Kittle, Jennings, Mason, Bosa, Hargrave, Greenlaw, Lenoir, Huf, Wish etc...

All guys who have been banged up and missed time...

Bosa got his money, Hargrave got his money...even Kittle got his money so yes, they are the money men.

Of course everyone plays with injuries throughout the season. Kansas City are beat up. Detroit are beat up and they are still winning.

Detroit and KC beat up, like who?

Detroit and Kansas City have their injuries and are still winning.

Shanahan looks like a coach without answers and the team looks like they've given up on him. I've seen plenty of good and bad teams over the years. I don't want Shanahan gone, but it seems inevitable. If not this season, then next. Once a team has quit, as we seem to have, it's really hard for any coach to pull them back.

I don't know if it's the lost SBs, questionable decisions, or something else. All I know is I've seen plenty of teams where the coach is no longer resonating with the team, and this really looks like one right now. Hopefully Shanny can put Humpty Dumpty back together again, but I'd be surprised.

I don't really know of any key injuries to Kansas City, but Detroit missing their #1 edge rusher and still winning is pretty crazy. Meanwhile we lose ours and our entire defense magically falls apart

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
team was overhyped. i remember ppl trying to tell me last season that oh, it's the greatest O in NFL history outside of 2007 patriots according to advanced nonsense. no dude, it wasn't that. i've seen the montana and young teams. it wasn't the greatest O in team history. 94 was way better for example. no contest. the O struggled all playoffs including the SB. they were good last year but we kinda believed our own hype a lil too much. go back to 94 we were blowing the doors off teams in the playoffs including a dynasty team.

I mean… when you get to OT in the Super Bowl it's just common sense you should be contenders again the following season if you bring the same crew back

Thats correct - very true. We were always overhyped. We believed our own hype too much as well.

We should Leave Sorrensen in Buffalo. Make Kyle hire an OC. Make Deebo the KR if he's not gonna be WR1. Then try to trade him or eat the dead cap and cut him.

Why draft a WR in the first round if you're never going to throw to him? Makes no sense.

At this point. Put all the injured players on IR and just tank/blow it up. I know our division is ass and technically we're still in it, but we're not doing s**t in the playoffs.

please place brock purdy on IR for stepping on lego and needs 5 weeks break. forfeit the season if we have to

Kittle has been washed cause all he does is block. Either that it's Kyle and Lynch's fault for o-line issues

also there is no runningback to pass protect Brock Purdy so....we need to draft a QB if we don't put Brock on IR for unknown reasons!

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
You notice how all the names that are hurt this year are the guys who were demanding a s**t ton of money in the off-season? They need to just mail the rest of this season in and get a high draft pick.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
It is totally relevant and true. CMC, Brandon Aiyuk and Trent Williams. There is upwards of $60 million salary cap.

What about Brock, Kittle, Jennings, Mason, Bosa, Hargrave, Greenlaw, Lenoir, Huf, Wish etc...

All guys who have been banged up and missed time...

Bosa got his money, Hargrave got his money...even Kittle got his money so yes, they are the money men.

Of course everyone plays with injuries throughout the season. Kansas City are beat up. Detroit are beat up and they are still winning.

Detroit and KC beat up, like who?

Detroit and Kansas City have their injuries and are still winning.

Shanahan looks like a coach without answers and the team looks like they've given up on him. I've seen plenty of good and bad teams over the years. I don't want Shanahan gone, but it seems inevitable. If not this season, then next. Once a team has quit, as we seem to have, it's really hard for any coach to pull them back.

I don't know if it's the lost SBs, questionable decisions, or something else. All I know is I've seen plenty of teams where the coach is no longer resonating with the team, and this really looks like one right now. Hopefully Shanny can put Humpty Dumpty back together again, but I'd be surprised.

I don't really know of any key injuries to Kansas City, but Detroit missing their #1 edge rusher and still winning is pretty crazy. Meanwhile we lose ours and our entire defense magically falls apart

KC had their no 1 running back out. Isiah Pacheco. The Chiefs had a ton of injured players last year and won the Super Bowl. Actually the Chiefs always have a ton of injured players and always go to the playoffs at least.

Detroit and Kansas City have kept fighting through their injuries and San Fransisco has given up. This team seems to be consistently injured more than any other team in the league. I wonder if they should examine their conditioning and training given ex players have noted they practice way harder than other teams.

I've been saying this for years.

The guy at the top of our org chart for Strength and Conditioning is Matt LaFleur's wife's first-cousin. I'm not kidding. And our current guy was only elevated because the last S&C coach was bounced because SF was injured too often. Also, that second-to-last guy was brought on because Shanny knew him from his Washington days.

Maybe, just MAYBE it's time to bring in some new blood, and not just keep going with a guy who was hired because he's related to your friend's wife, or that he used to be employed at your old job.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by PatandBow:
Where did Hope get Marv Levy and the Buffalo Bills in the early 90's?

It got him to four Super Bowl appearances, what else was Levy suppose to do, just give up after two like you want to do with Shanahan? Ungrateful fans like you should be rooting for the Raiders or Cards where you can live a happy-miserable life with those teams.

Gewtting to 4 straight SBs is unprecedented. It just so happened that during that era the NFC was the stronger conference much lik the AFC is stronger now. It runs in cycles and who youface in the SB has alotto do with the outcome. During that era the NFC wasn't jist winning. Many of the games were really lopsided blowouts. The Niners have been unable to beat the Chiefs who have been the best team in the NFL. It's just the luck of the draw.

Marv Levy is remembered as a loser. If Shanny doesn't get over the hump that's how he'll be remembered too. It's doesn't matter if you took them to overtime. It doesn't matter if you were only one play away. You either get a ring or you don't. It might not be fair but that's how it is.

Originally posted by mcwoot:
Marv Levy is remembered as a loser. If Shanny doesn't get over the hump that's how he'll be remembered too. It's doesn't matter if you took them to overtime. It doesn't matter if you were only one play away. You either get a ring or you don't. It might not be fair but that's how it is.

I honestly never see Levy brought up in conversation one way or the other. I think most people understand his team was completely outclassed in 3 of the 4 SBs and benefited from a terrible AFC.

i'd like to see stuff like juice gone today. thank you for your contributions but we are going in a different direction. send a message here that there's gonna be changes.

Wait what?

Is this legit?

Purdy is a decent QB, but Josh Allen just showed the difference between a QB that's merely decent and an elite QB.

However, that's the least of our worries. The real problem is the Super Bowl window closed after we blew yet another Super Bowl to the chiefs. The time to rebuild was this past offseason when players still had trade value. Now we are bogged down with a ton of albatross contracts.

CMC is done

Deebo is washed up

Aiyuk is done

Greenlaw is done

Ward is washed up

Juice is washed up

Kittle, bosa, and Warner are getting older and won't be in their primes for much longer

Trent will already be declining

We have a few nice players but you need more than that to have a functional team, much less a Super Bowl caliber team. We are going to have to endure a rough rebuilding stretch.

And for the Shanny defenders, these next few years will show just good or bad shanny is (and for that matter Lynch too).

It's one thing to look good when you have a loaded roster in their primes. It's another to see the players you drafted, signed, traded for hit their cliffs and decline. Will the FO be able to set aside their personal relationships and egos in order to do what's right?

Example; we drafted Deebo in 2019, and 2021 he put up a historic season. He's also done a lot for this franchise. But in current year he's clearly a shell of himself. The correct move is to bench him and move on from him this off-season while giving those snaps to the young kids to see what we've got in them; even if they're worse than Deebo, we have to know what we have in them. This is not an easy move to make for the FO who have forged personal relationships with Deebo, but it's the correct move for the franchise as a whole. If Shanny is truly a good coach, he will do this move. If he's a coward too scared to hurt Deebo's feelings, he will only sabotage the franchise's future.

Deebo is obviously only an example, it also applies to CMC, Ward, Williams, Bosa, Auick etc. If Shanny and Lynch admit the team needs to rebuild and starts the rebuild right now, and they come out and admit to the fans that they're gonna be tanking for a few years so everyone be patient, they may be able to save their jobs. If Shanny and Lynch cannot do the right moves because they're too scared to cut/trade away the old vets they forged personal relationships with, they will go down with the ship, and it will destroy the team for the next 5 years.

The ball is in Shanny and Lynch's court. It is up to them to do the right move.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Wait what?

Is this legit?

Kyle Shanahan defends Nick Sorensen:

"I'm very satisfied with Nick... Some of the mistakes we've made, I don't think that's a schematic issue. That's a fundamental issue. That starts with me..."

Said the results the last two weeks haven't changed his view of Sorensen

— Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) December 2, 2024

less is more from kyle. let the FO pick the DC and the players. get kyle back to innovating on O and designing plays that work in the red area.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Wait what?

Is this legit?

Kyle Shanahan defends Nick Sorensen:

"I'm very satisfied with Nick... Some of the mistakes we've made, I don't think that's a schematic issue. That's a fundamental issue. That starts with me..."

Said the results the last two weeks haven't changed his view of Sorensen

— Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) December 2, 2024

Kylle is in La-La land.

This team is a hot mess. The injuries to their top players really exposed the lack of talent on both sides of the ball. They need to shut down their injured players for the rest of the season. There's no reason to risk further injury.

Unless Purdy is cool with taking a 3-year 30-40 million a year deal, the Niners would be wise to wait to see how he looks next year. There's no way they should consider paying him 60ish million a season.