49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
The apologists are out in full force today. Peddling the same fear based arguments for keeping a declining coach who is leading this organization into the tank. Don't worry. Your boy has one more year to inflict further damage to the franchise. If you think this year is bad, wait for next year.

there's no fear just facts, over a hundred years of them lol

Like this fact?

Besides Don Shula, not a single coach in nfl history has ever won a Super Bowl after dropping their first 2.

I'm not entirely positive you made the point you were trying to make

Originally posted by 49erKing:
Im referring to the Lions playmakers vs the 49ers. Amon-ra, Gibbs, Montgomery, Jameson, and LaPorta. "better or not" can make for a lively discussion but "way better"? Lol.

Originally posted by Schulzy:
He's saying that coaches that started 0-2 in the Super Bowl never went on to win the Super Bowl aside from Shula.

Which is a dumb stat because how many coaches have coached in 3 super bowls?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
I just did, you need to buy some reading glasses.

I commend Fred Warner for his love of the game and his willingness to play under any circumstances. When he's healthy he's a DPOY candidate, like he was earlier this year when he was healthy.

But he needs to be sent to IR to rest. He's only hurting the team by playing injured, and he's possibly sabotaging his future by playing injured and not letting his ankle heal.

A good coach will protect players from themselves. Shanny needs to pull Warner to the side and tell him the truth and force Warner to rest for his own good. However Shanny won't do this. Because he literally did not do this with CMC, who should've been eased back into the lineup. Instead Shanny just ran CMC into the ground until he couldn't walk. Shanny is just gonna let Warner keep playing until Warner can't walk anymore.

I understand maybe pushing if it were the playoffs or something like when Owens played the super bowl on a broken leg. But this is clearly a lost season. Take the L and look to next season.

there is not one name in your reply.. so i guess it's back to BS again.. great

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Schulzy:
He's saying that coaches that started 0-2 in the Super Bowl never went on to win the Super Bowl aside from Shula.

Which is a dumb stat because how many coaches have coached in 3 super bowls?

Its also that a lot of coaches started out later than Kyle did and later than many HC's are starting out nowadays. It used to be that you had guys in their late 40s or even 50s before they got a crack at their first HC job, that was more the norm, now we're seeing 30s so bringing up these sorts of stats is kind of pointless IMO. Nothing ever happens until it does.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Shanahan can't be an OC and Coach. Doesn't work. Time to cut the cord.

The team won't find a better HC or OC.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Unfortunately, you can't read.

Kansas City has not played with Isaih Pacheco who suffered his leg injury in Week 2. Their kicker is out. The O-line is banged up. Raahee Rice, Sky Moore, Jalen Watson, Hollywood Brown etc.

Detroit, Plz. Defensive ends Aidan Hutchinson and Marcus Davenport are both believed to be out for the season, along with linebackers Malcolm Rodriguez and Derrick Barnes. Fellow linebacker Alex Anzalone is sidelined with a broken forearm as well.the Lions played without left tackle Taylor Decker on Thursday.

Let's start speculating for next year. Deebo can't be coming back unless he takes a huge pay cut. Then again Kyle seems to rely on him for 40% of his plays for some reason. Purdy is getting paid but how much? $50mil seems fair considering the market and his production but he could easily demand top dollar. Cmc? At this point i wouldn't be surprised if he retires this offseason. We have good rbs so not terribly worried but need to replicate his receiving production somehow. Trent is not holding up and has regressed this year even before injury. Need to find 4 new O-linemen as far as I'm concerned. I think the biggest change needs to be in the coaching staff. D coordinator obviously a need. St too, and conditioning… ok just about everything. I'm a Kyle truther but he needs to rebuild the supporting staff. All of his old Guard got poached and we haven't been able to replace them with quality.

Robert Saleh please come home. Also an offensive HC like Mcdaniels role would help take pressure off Kyle. Problem is where would he even find these guys.

A lot of concerns, I wanna die

I can see why you didn't want to list them in the first place. the injuries to back up players and some of those players are already back playing on the team

i guess it's back to BS again

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
When I was watching the after show and hearing the Bills coach talk to them in the locker room, I couldn't help, but think how Kyle Shahan wouldn't be able to deliver the same type of speech.

Their coach was basically telling them how special they were, but in a way that seemed to really resonate, he told them to turn to the person on their left and tell them you love them and not even joking they all immediately did it… you could hear the chatter coming from those conversations.

I don't know why, but it just struck me that our guys don't have that type of dynamic with our coach or maybe even each other. Kyle wouldn't say that and they wouldn't know what to say if he did.

Vibes just not the same, it's breaking my heart.

OMFG lol i can smell the BS through my screen.

Where the fk were you the last 8 years and all the post game talks! you have to be a bott.. you literally don't have a clue what happened last year the years before that. is your search broken?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Unfortunately, you can't read.

Kansas City has not played with Isaih Pacheco who suffered his leg injury in Week 2. Their kicker is out. The O-line is banged up. Raahee Rice, Sky Moore, Jalen Watson, Hollywood Brown etc.

Detroit, Plz. Defensive ends Aidan Hutchinson and Marcus Davenport are both believed to be out for the season, along with linebackers Malcolm Rodriguez and Derrick Barnes. Fellow linebacker Alex Anzalone is sidelined with a broken forearm as well.the Lions played without left tackle Taylor Decker on Thursday.

Let's start speculating for next year. Deebo can't be coming back unless he takes a huge pay cut. Then again Kyle seems to rely on him for 40% of his plays for some reason. Purdy is getting paid but how much? $50mil seems fair considering the market and his production but he could easily demand top dollar. Cmc? At this point i wouldn't be surprised if he retires this offseason. We have good rbs so not terribly worried but need to replicate his receiving production somehow. Trent is not holding up and has regressed this year even before injury. Need to find 4 new O-linemen as far as I'm concerned. I think the biggest change needs to be in the coaching staff. D coordinator obviously a need. St too, and conditioning… ok just about everything. I'm a Kyle truther but he needs to rebuild the supporting staff. All of his old Guard got poached and we haven't been able to replace them with quality.

Robert Saleh please come home. Also an offensive HC like Mcdaniels role would help take pressure off Kyle. Problem is where would he even find these guys.

A lot of concerns, I wanna die

I can see why you didn't want to list them in the first place. the injuries to back up players and some of those players are already back playing on the team

i guess it's back to BS again

Are you stoned?

Aidan Hutchinson, Raahee Rice, Isaih Pacheco are not back up players.

I can't wait for Kyle to draft a kicker and 3 Running backs next draft. Because who the f**k needs an O-Line?

We Lost by 53 over two weeks. This is more than just injuries, wake up everyone. Kyle, it's not 2017 anymore, and he's not the same guy.

This team has been spiralling downwards ever since Kyle gave Purdy a dressing down in front of the media and his teammates. That act lost the locker room for Kyle and the team divas started acting out afterwards and Purdy confidence is shot.

yup. he just wants to do the wait till we are fully healthy game. but we were healthy in 2023. we got the same outcome vs KC that jimmy and mostert did. with CMC and brock. very rare that you are handed a SB rematch vs the same HC and DC you already game planned against. it went no better. in fact, we didn't even know key rules or prepare for the big moment. our harvard grad was saying after that we didn't know the rules, nor did we take time to go over them. so plenty of red flags here imo. i think jed is pot committed tho with the contract.

were we fully healthy in that SB?

you want to be on this BS train too ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
were we fully healthy in that SB?

you want to be on this BS train too ?

just the facts. it was a very healthy team. about as healthy as you can ask for in february after 20 weeks or so. i was disappointed in 20 pts in 4 quarters in SB 54, then you have 19 points in 4 quarters of SB 58. that's the progress in those years, what it boiled down to. then you have some OT decisions off the wall and team leaders like 8 time team man of the year AA saying he didn't know anything about OT. he found out from the scoreboard in stadium what the OT is like. this is all rooted in fact and real quotes from our guys.

what facts? don't spin in to something else.

Were we fully healthy in that SB?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what facts? don't spin in to something else.

Were we fully healthy in that SB?

i'm not doing your game. health is always the excuse with you. just terrible. the reality is no team has a monopoly on health. every team has to have a next man up mentality and adapt to injury. that tests your depth. it's a part of the pro game. not an excuse. or else every team has an excuse every season.

exactly, keep riding that BS express..

Kittle injured, Couldn't even lift his arm
Deebo Hamstring, couldn't even run
Feli, Torn pec couldn't finish the game
Greenlaw torn ACL

Huge Key pieces to the 49ers in one game and not some stupid next man up quote would erase how big those losses were

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
is it worth tanking?

To pick who, a kicker or RB?

We don't do well with top picks.

Originally posted by Schulzy:
Injuries are becoming a bit of an excuse now because they are piling up.

They were NOT an excuse at the beginning of the year because teams had similar injuries, yet we blew games to LA, Arizona, Seattle. Played terribly in the 2nd half against Tampa when they were more banged up than we were.

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what facts? don't spin in to something else.

Were we fully healthy in that SB?

i'm not doing your game. health is always the excuse with you. just terrible. the reality is no team has a monopoly on health. every team has to have a next man up mentality and adapt to injury. that tests your depth. it's a part of the pro game. not an excuse. or else every team has an excuse every season.

exactly, keep riding that BS express..

Kittle injured, Couldn't even lift his arm
Deebo Hamstring, couldn't even run
Feli, Torn pec couldn't finish the game
Greenlaw torn ACL

Huge Key pieces to the 49ers in one game and not some stupid next man up quote would erase how big those losses were

Injury Excuses.

So we have to be Completely 100% Injury Free to win a Superbowl now?

😂

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by Schulzy:
Injuries are becoming a bit of an excuse now because they are piling up.

They were NOT an excuse at the beginning of the year because teams had similar injuries, yet we blew games to LA, Arizona, Seattle. Played terribly in the 2nd half against Tampa when they were more banged up than we were.

Yep exactly.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what facts? don't spin in to something else.

Were we fully healthy in that SB?

i'm not doing your game. health is always the excuse with you. just terrible. the reality is no team has a monopoly on health. every team has to have a next man up mentality and adapt to injury. that tests your depth. it's a part of the pro game. not an excuse. or else every team has an excuse every season.

exactly, keep riding that BS express..

Kittle injured, Couldn't even lift his arm
Deebo Hamstring, couldn't even run
Feli, Torn pec couldn't finish the game
Greenlaw torn ACL

Huge Key pieces to the 49ers in one game and not some stupid next man up quote would erase how big those losses were

Injury Excuses.

So we have to be Completely 100% Injury Free to win a Superbowl now?

😂

Let's start with 50% and see where we can go from there.