49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
What's the extent of the injuries?

starting safety
starting linebacker
starting defensive tackle
Starting receiver
Starting running back
Backup running back
DE opposite of Bosa has been out all year
Starting CB

have all been unavailable pretty much all season 🤷‍♂?. We've also had the carousel of

lenoir and ward have been gone at times. We've had injuries to multiple defensive tackles. Punter and kicker have both missed time. Deebo was out a couple games. Kittle was out a couple games. Bosa and Trent Williams have both missed multiple games. Feliciano and banks.

it's more than I thought, and that's not the entire list. Kyle deserves credit for not using it as an excuse each week.

"Injuries shouldn't matter" is the most ignorant thing said on these boards. Even if we could adjust and overcome the permanent talent deficit from IR, the constant rotation of short-term injuries to the players still available makes it impossible to create continuity. Can't game plan when you don't know which RB is going to be available. Can't strategize when what was going to be your strength just became your weakness.

fred, I'm going to have you cover the a gap in these situations.

s**t, sorry Fred forget what I just said. Bosa just went down…. I'm going to need you to watch outside containment instead.

s**t, Fred I also need help covering lenoirs zone. Yea, he hurt his knee.

🤷‍♂?🤷‍♂?.

Dude they have been a mediocre team since the start of the season, before all the injuries mounted up.

homer alert. Shanahan's kid is back on-site making sure no one blames him for paying a bunch of old guys who *surprise* get injured more often, like Hargrave or

runs em into the ground like CMC

how about Shanny picks in rounds 1-3 the last 3-4 years? Aside from the most recent draft it's all crap. No one worthy of a second contract minus Brock.

THE WINDOW ON THIS COMBO OF PLAYERS IS FINISHED. KAPUT. OVER.

Kyle has made some head scratching decisions. But to state our mediocre season started before the injuries is objectively false.

Someone wasn't watching the games at the beginning of the season.

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
What's the extent of the injuries?

starting safety
starting linebacker
starting defensive tackle
Starting receiver
Starting running back
Backup running back
DE opposite of Bosa has been out all year
Starting CB

have all been unavailable pretty much all season 🤷‍♂?. We've also had the carousel of

lenoir and ward have been gone at times. We've had injuries to multiple defensive tackles. Punter and kicker have both missed time. Deebo was out a couple games. Kittle was out a couple games. Bosa and Trent Williams have both missed multiple games. Feliciano and banks.

it's more than I thought, and that's not the entire list. Kyle deserves credit for not using it as an excuse each week.

"Injuries shouldn't matter" is the most ignorant thing said on these boards. Even if we could adjust and overcome the permanent talent deficit from IR, the constant rotation of short-term injuries to the players still available makes it impossible to create continuity. Can't game plan when you don't know which RB is going to be available. Can't strategize when what was going to be your strength just became your weakness.

fred, I'm going to have you cover the a gap in these situations.

s**t, sorry Fred forget what I just said. Bosa just went down…. I'm going to need you to watch outside containment instead.

s**t, Fred I also need help covering lenoirs zone. Yea, he hurt his knee.

🤷‍♂?🤷‍♂?.

Dude they have been a mediocre team since the start of the season, before all the injuries mounted up.

homer alert. Shanahan's kid is back on-site making sure no one blames him for paying a bunch of old guys who *surprise* get injured more often, like Hargrave or

runs em into the ground like CMC

how about Shanny picks in rounds 1-3 the last 3-4 years? Aside from the most recent draft it's all crap. No one worthy of a second contract minus Brock.

THE WINDOW ON THIS COMBO OF PLAYERS IS FINISHED. KAPUT. OVER.

Kyle has made some head scratching decisions. But to state our mediocre season started before the injuries is objectively false.

Someone wasn't watching the games at the beginning of the season.

The bad stuff started in July during trainng camp. Aiyuk and Williams were both holdouts. CMC announced that he had achilles tendinitis in both legs. Pearsall got shot in the chest. Greenlaw and Hufanga weren't ready to play.

All that happened even before the season started.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Some fans are under the delusion that Kyle has complete and total control of everything, including John Lynch. Lynch would not be here if he had no power. He's not just some talking head or puppet of Kyle.

In fact.. While we know Kyle and John are friends, I'm honestly starting to wonder if there's some friction there.

John called out the discipline of the team. Is he taking shots at the players or at Kyle?

Kyle said "we're not as good of a team, we're not the same team at all." is HE taking a shot at the players or at Lynch?

Shoot.. I may have just given Grant his next article..

Very good interesting points. Thank you

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
What's the extent of the injuries?

starting safety
starting linebacker
starting defensive tackle
Starting receiver
Starting running back
Backup running back
DE opposite of Bosa has been out all year
Starting CB

have all been unavailable pretty much all season 🤷‍♂?. We've also had the carousel of

lenoir and ward have been gone at times. We've had injuries to multiple defensive tackles. Punter and kicker have both missed time. Deebo was out a couple games. Kittle was out a couple games. Bosa and Trent Williams have both missed multiple games. Feliciano and banks.

it's more than I thought, and that's not the entire list. Kyle deserves credit for not using it as an excuse each week.

"Injuries shouldn't matter" is the most ignorant thing said on these boards. Even if we could adjust and overcome the permanent talent deficit from IR, the constant rotation of short-term injuries to the players still available makes it impossible to create continuity. Can't game plan when you don't know which RB is going to be available. Can't strategize when what was going to be your strength just became your weakness.

fred, I'm going to have you cover the a gap in these situations.

s**t, sorry Fred forget what I just said. Bosa just went down…. I'm going to need you to watch outside containment instead.

s**t, Fred I also need help covering lenoirs zone. Yea, he hurt his knee.

🤷‍♂?🤷‍♂?.

Dude they have been a mediocre team since the start of the season, before all the injuries mounted up.

homer alert. Shanahan's kid is back on-site making sure no one blames him for paying a bunch of old guys who *surprise* get injured more often, like Hargrave or

runs em into the ground like CMC

how about Shanny picks in rounds 1-3 the last 3-4 years? Aside from the most recent draft it's all crap. No one worthy of a second contract minus Brock.

THE WINDOW ON THIS COMBO OF PLAYERS IS FINISHED. KAPUT. OVER.

Kyle has made some head scratching decisions. But to state our mediocre season started before the injuries is objectively false.

Someone wasn't watching the games at the beginning of the season.

What do you mean? Are you disagreeing that some of our injuries occurred before the season?

bold strategy. Let's see if it pays off.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
What do you mean? Are you disagreeing that some of our injuries occurred before the season?

bold strategy. Let's see if it pays off.

I really wish we could pretend Greenlaw wasn't hurt and playing all year. I'm sure our defense would have looked a lot better with him on the field.

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
What's the extent of the injuries?

starting safety
starting linebacker
starting defensive tackle
Starting receiver
Starting running back
Backup running back
DE opposite of Bosa has been out all year
Starting CB

have all been unavailable pretty much all season 🤷‍♂?. We've also had the carousel of

lenoir and ward have been gone at times. We've had injuries to multiple defensive tackles. Punter and kicker have both missed time. Deebo was out a couple games. Kittle was out a couple games. Bosa and Trent Williams have both missed multiple games. Feliciano and banks.

it's more than I thought, and that's not the entire list. Kyle deserves credit for not using it as an excuse each week.

"Injuries shouldn't matter" is the most ignorant thing said on these boards. Even if we could adjust and overcome the permanent talent deficit from IR, the constant rotation of short-term injuries to the players still available makes it impossible to create continuity. Can't game plan when you don't know which RB is going to be available. Can't strategize when what was going to be your strength just became your weakness.

fred, I'm going to have you cover the a gap in these situations.

s**t, sorry Fred forget what I just said. Bosa just went down…. I'm going to need you to watch outside containment instead.

s**t, Fred I also need help covering lenoirs zone. Yea, he hurt his knee.

🤷‍♂?🤷‍♂?.

Dude they have been a mediocre team since the start of the season, before all the injuries mounted up.

homer alert. Shanahan's kid is back on-site making sure no one blames him for paying a bunch of old guys who *surprise* get injured more often, like Hargrave or

runs em into the ground like CMC

how about Shanny picks in rounds 1-3 the last 3-4 years? Aside from the most recent draft it's all crap. No one worthy of a second contract minus Brock.

THE WINDOW ON THIS COMBO OF PLAYERS IS FINISHED. KAPUT. OVER.

Kyle has made some head scratching decisions. But to state our mediocre season started before the injuries is objectively false.

Someone wasn't watching the games at the beginning of the season.

That someone is you lol

and the posts by you on the last page, talking out the ass like bott

but you're not here to talk facts or football.. just here to rub a injury plagued year in our faces. I'm sure whatever team you root for will still suck lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
That someone is you lol

and the posts by you on the last page, talking out the ass like bott

but you're not here to talk facts or football.. just here to rub a injury plagued year in our faces. I'm sure whatever team you root for will still suck lol

doesn't matter what year it is. last year was injury free. and we didn't know the rules and made all the wrong moves in the SB all the same. so it's about recognizing the red flags, like SB mismanagement. DC blunders and historic draft flop three ones for a scrub. let's call a spade a spade. he has some positive traits as HC and some real red flags. i think all the red flags can boil down to him trying to do it all, and not delegating personnel and staff decisions to capable ppl. and then you look at the red zone this year. how about he design some plays that work? probably spends all his time holding sorensons hand and the O suffers for it.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
That someone is you lol

and the posts by you on the last page, talking out the ass like bott

but you're not here to talk facts or football.. just here to rub a injury plagued year in our faces. I'm sure whatever team you root for will still suck lol

doesn't matter what year it is. last year was injury free. and we didn't know the rules and made all the wrong moves in the SB all the same. so it's about recognizing the red flags, like SB mismanagement. DC blunders and historic draft flop three ones for a scrub. let's call a spade a spade. he has some positive traits as HC and some real red flags. i think all the red flags can boil down to him trying to do it all, and not delegating personnel and staff decisions to capable ppl. and then you look at the red zone this year. how about he design some plays that work? probably spends all his time holding sorensons hand and the O suffers for it.

lol, yeah .. we hit a rough patch mostly due to injury and you want to ignore all the right that clearly out weighed the wrong the last 4 years.

the film shows it's not the design of the plays, it's the execution.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
That someone is you lol

and the posts by you on the last page, talking out the ass like bott

but you're not here to talk facts or football.. just here to rub a injury plagued year in our faces. I'm sure whatever team you root for will still suck lol

doesn't matter what year it is. last year was injury free. and we didn't know the rules and made all the wrong moves in the SB all the same. so it's about recognizing the red flags, like SB mismanagement. DC blunders and historic draft flop three ones for a scrub. let's call a spade a spade. he has some positive traits as HC and some real red flags. i think all the red flags can boil down to him trying to do it all, and not delegating personnel and staff decisions to capable ppl. and then you look at the red zone this year. how about he design some plays that work? probably spends all his time holding sorensons hand and the O suffers for it.

I don't disagree, but it appears we are doing everything in our power to ignore the injury bug. Which is what was being discussed in the post you responded to

a bad driver has his brakes go out and crashes. Sure, he's a bad driver… but his brakes did in fact go out. Both can be true, and the wreck probably can't be used as evidence to revoke his license. In this case, the bad driver just took second in the Indy 500.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
I don't disagree, but it appears we are doing everything in our power to ignore the injury bug. Which is what was being discussed in the post you responded to

there are injuries, that's a part of the game. i recall QB1 writhing on the ground in preseason and the coach said we are not going to use that as an excuse for losing. we will rally around our other guy, and we will play good football. it was among the best teams of all time and they made a movie out of it. so that's a part of our game. KC no brown all year, no rice, no pacheco, that's why they are 5-7, oh wait, they are 12-1. so i just don't buy into all the excuses. packers had willis who they got after preseason was over i think, and they won games with him early season. no one rolls over cuz we are down hufanga and others.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
there are injuries, that's a part of the game. i recall QB1 writhing on the ground in preseason and the coach said we are not going to use that as an excuse for losing. we will rally around our other guy, and we will play good football. it was among the best teams of all time and they made a movie out of it. so that's a part of our game. KC no brown all year, no rice, no pacheco, that's why they are 5-7, oh wait, they are 12-1. so i just don't buy into all the excuses. packers had willis who they got after preseason was over i think, and they won games with him early season. no one rolls over cuz we are down hufanga and others.

Ok. You and I are just on separate planets. And that's ok.

If i think the draft is important (I do), and free agent acquisitions are important (I do), then I have to think roster quality is important (I do). If all those things are true, I can't agree with you that injuries that affect roster quality are unimportant.

with our roster fully in tact we are a top five roster in terms of talent.

what we put on the field here recently has to be bottom five in terms of talent.

that matters. At least to me. I understand you don't think roster quality matters all that much. I won't try to change your mind.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Ok. You and I are just on separate planets. And that's ok.

If i think the draft is important (I do), and free agent acquisitions are important (I do), then I have to think roster quality is important (I do). If all those things are true, I can't agree with you that injuries that affect roster quality are unimportant.

with our roster fully in tact we are a top five roster in terms of talent.

what we put on the field here recently has to be bottom five in terms of talent.

that matters. At least to me. I understand you don't think roster quality matters all that much. I won't try to change your mind.

the roster i had concerns going in at safety and at DT and at DC. i didn't like deebo after the SB and juice is just a personal friend of the staff it seems. so our talent isn't all that, or it isn't what it was. a quality coach can get the most out of the guys he does have. one example is JP Mason. that's quality how he did with CMC down. that's what i am talking about.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
I don't disagree, but it appears we are doing everything in our power to ignore the injury bug. Which is what was being discussed in the post you responded to

there are injuries, that's a part of the game. i recall QB1 writhing on the ground in preseason and the coach said we are not going to use that as an excuse for losing. we will rally around our other guy, and we will play good football. it was among the best teams of all time and they made a movie out of it. so that's a part of our game. KC no brown all year, no rice, no pacheco, that's why they are 5-7, oh wait, they are 12-1. so i just don't buy into all the excuses. packers had willis who they got after preseason was over i think, and they won games with him early season. no one rolls over cuz we are down hufanga and others.

To compare that to us is ridiculous in now way is that equal but you already know that

Also KC has been winning from from another factor which you will pretend not to mention

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Ok. You and I are just on separate planets. And that's ok.

If i think the draft is important (I do), and free agent acquisitions are important (I do), then I have to think roster quality is important (I do). If all those things are true, I can't agree with you that injuries that affect roster quality are unimportant.

with our roster fully in tact we are a top five roster in terms of talent.

what we put on the field here recently has to be bottom five in terms of talent.

that matters. At least to me. I understand you don't think roster quality matters all that much. I won't try to change your mind.

the roster i had concerns going in at safety and at DT and at DC. i didn't like deebo after the SB and juice is just a personal friend of the staff it seems. so our talent isn't all that, or it isn't what it was. a quality coach can get the most out of the guys he does have. one example is JP Mason. that's quality how he did with CMC down. that's what i am talking about.

Yeah we are kind of in agreement. Changing topics a bit, but I wasn't convince BA was going to replicate last years production, especially once his negations went the way they did. I thought deebo was cooked two years ago, but he balled out some
last year so I was left eating my words. But here we are again… he's fallen off a cliff since starting his podcast tour. Juice I thought was worth the contract, but naw.

I mean, I do agree there are coaches that could absolutely do more with the talent we got right now. No argument from me. I just don't think I'd fire a Super Bowl losing coach after a down season full of personal tragedies, b******t contract negotiations, and a league leading injury rate. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of our salary cap didn't dress against the bills…. Our situation is pretty f**king catastrophic. Kyle doesn't appear to be handling it well, and during the games when I'm all hyped up I motherf**k that dude as much as anyone. But I'm not ready to send the baby out with the bathwater just yet. I'll need to see a s**tty season with a normal set of parameters first