Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:you can't ignore the most important side... like where was all this underperforming undisciplined talk the last 8 years lol
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Look at what the coaches have done in Denver, Detroit Minnesota, Green Bay, Cleveland. Players on those team play hard, are fun to watch and are heading in the opposite direction of the 49ers. Yet we have Kyle boys still talking about how great he is and how much of a disaster it will be to move on. limited thinking and fear drives these guys to sub mediocrity.
This is only true if you isolate this season. We've been more successful than each of these teams over Kyle's tenure broadly. By a large margin in every case, with some exception for GB.
What your argument effectively boils down to at this point is whether or not a coaching staff and team should be allowed to backslide for a season. Any NFL fan with a brain would recognize it's extremely rare to consistently be on the rise, and we're no exception.
Backslide with a roster built for winning is much different than a backslide for a team not expected to go to the superbowl. It's not just about the wins and losses it's about how the team is losing and looking. Disregard injuries for a second. This team is underperforming, undisciplined and just plain hard to watch. He is directing a s**t show that he created. It's just bad all the way around.
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Dec 3, 2024 at 2:01 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Dec 3, 2024 at 2:02 PM
- Koldo
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Baldinger blasting Shanahan and his below-average team is
I guess Kyle is no longer the sports media sweetheart.
link?
Check Coach Yac's tweets.
You mean the tweet about Pearsall?
And Deebo and Sorensen, etc
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:02 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
oh another lame take lol
lets ignore that any team you want to bring up is not equal in health nor can it ever be equal as the amount of injuries has just been crazy for us.
in no way you can say the players are not playing hard.. just based on results
the deal here is you can't recognize the good and the bad. the good is great and the bad is all finger pointing.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:02 PM
- RonnieLott
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People can scream all they want, but the Yorks are not firing Kyle Shanahan.
This is exactly like 2020.
Brown needs to be benched.
Deebo continues to be invisible.
I feel bad for verbally ripping Chase Young after watching Floyd this year
Our highest paid players are injured or playing terribly
This is exactly like 2020.
Brown needs to be benched.
Deebo continues to be invisible.
I feel bad for verbally ripping Chase Young after watching Floyd this year
Our highest paid players are injured or playing terribly
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:02 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:doubt Baldy bashes anyone, does he ?
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Baldinger blasting Shanahan and his below-average team is
I guess Kyle is no longer the sports media sweetheart.
link?
Check Coach Yac's tweets.
You mean the tweet about Pearsall?
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:03 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Backslide with a roster built for winning is much different than a backslide for a team not expected to go to the superbowl. It's not just about the wins and losses it's about how the team is losing and looking. Disregard injuries for a second. This team is underperforming, undisciplined and just plain hard to watch. He is directing a s**t show that he created. It's just bad all the way around.
Why would anybody disregard injury in a serious evaluation of how a team is performing? Any serious argument should be able to withstand applicable factors, not pretend they don't apply to make the argument stronger.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:03 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
People can scream all they want, but the Yorks are not firing Kyle Shanahan.
This is exactly like 2020.
Brown needs to be benched.
Deebo continues to be invisible.
I feel bad for verbally ripping Chase Young after watching Floyd this year
Our highest paid players are injured or playing terribly
floyd is doing good
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:04 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:care to add more context to this, cause this sounds like more you than I
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
oh another lame take lol
lets ignore that any team you want to bring up is not equal in health nor can it ever be equal as the amount of injuries has just been crazy for us.
in no way you can say the players are not playing hard.. just based on results
the deal here is you can't recognize the good and the bad. the good is great and the bad is all finger pointing.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:05 PM
- Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Baldinger blasting Shanahan and his below-average team is
I guess Kyle is no longer the sports media sweetheart.
link?
Check Coach Yac's tweets.
You mean the tweet about Pearsall?
And Deebo and Sorensen, etc
I saw him say Deebo and Pearsall weren't getting open and Sorensen needs to be better scheming up things especially when he's down horses
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:05 PM
- Bringbackedjr
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:oh another lame take lol
Look at what the coaches have done in Denver, Detroit Minnesota, Green Bay, Cleveland. Players on those team play hard, are fun to watch and are heading in the opposite direction of the 49ers. Yet we have Kyle boys still talking about how great he is and how much of a disaster it will be to move on. limited thinking and fear drives these guys to sub mediocrity.
lets ignore that any team you want to bring up is not equal in health nor can it ever be equal as the amount of injuries has just been crazy for us.
in no way you can say the players are not playing hard.. just based on results
Get your eyes checked and pick up a book on football fundamentals then come back and post.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:06 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:care to add more context to this, cause this sounds like more you than I
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
oh another lame take lol
lets ignore that any team you want to bring up is not equal in health nor can it ever be equal as the amount of injuries has just been crazy for us.
in no way you can say the players are not playing hard.. just based on results
the deal here is you can't recognize the good and the bad. the good is great and the bad is all finger pointing.
well let's hear you mention some of the red flags, give me some legit kyle criticisms.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:08 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:oh another lame take lol
Look at what the coaches have done in Denver, Detroit Minnesota, Green Bay, Cleveland. Players on those team play hard, are fun to watch and are heading in the opposite direction of the 49ers. Yet we have Kyle boys still talking about how great he is and how much of a disaster it will be to move on. limited thinking and fear drives these guys to sub mediocrity.
lets ignore that any team you want to bring up is not equal in health nor can it ever be equal as the amount of injuries has just been crazy for us.
in no way you can say the players are not playing hard.. just based on results
Get your eyes checked and pick up a book on football fundamentals then come back and post.
Lol says the guy who thinks owners and coaches are the reason SBs are won and not players.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:10 PM
- Bringbackedjr
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:You can excuse injuries but you can't excuse making the same mistakes week in and week out. You can't excuse poor play calling. Poor personnel decisions, and poor game management have nothing to do with injuries. Again, it's not just about the wins and losses it's the how and why that I am focusing on. Losing because your out gunned is far different than blowing 3 4th quarter leads to teams you should beat.
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Backslide with a roster built for winning is much different than a backslide for a team not expected to go to the superbowl. It's not just about the wins and losses it's about how the team is losing and looking. Disregard injuries for a second. This team is underperforming, undisciplined and just plain hard to watch. He is directing a s**t show that he created. It's just bad all the way around.
Why would anybody disregard injury in a serious evaluation of how a team is performing? Any serious argument should be able to withstand applicable factors, not pretend they don't apply to make the argument stronger.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:11 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
You can excuse injuries but you can't excuse making the same mistakes week in and week out. You can't excuse poor play calling. Poor personnel decisions, and poor game management have nothing to do with injuries. Again, it's not just about the wins and losses it's the how and why that I am focusing on. Losing because your out gunned is far different than blowing 3 4th quarter leads to teams you should beat.
and i don't think you can excuse injuries, they are a part of NFL football. over time it all evens out. every fan base thinks it is uniquely cursed but that's just not reality.
Dec 3, 2024 at 2:12 PM
- Bringbackedjr
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:Thanks for further making my point for me. If you don't think owners and coaches factor into the overall success of a team you need more education than I thought.
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:oh another lame take lol
Look at what the coaches have done in Denver, Detroit Minnesota, Green Bay, Cleveland. Players on those team play hard, are fun to watch and are heading in the opposite direction of the 49ers. Yet we have Kyle boys still talking about how great he is and how much of a disaster it will be to move on. limited thinking and fear drives these guys to sub mediocrity.
lets ignore that any team you want to bring up is not equal in health nor can it ever be equal as the amount of injuries has just been crazy for us.
in no way you can say the players are not playing hard.. just based on results
Get your eyes checked and pick up a book on football fundamentals then come back and post.
Lol says the guy who thinks owners and coaches are the reason SBs are won and not players.