49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude he/she has no clue what they're talking about…just whining with no real idea of how football works. Their posts continuously back that up. Zero nuance or context and if any of that gets brought up, it's an excuse.

lazy ass debater.

I agree....some of these Kyle Shanahan takes are beyond nonsensical......you've even stated they are 'trolling' so I have to ask....

....why even respond?

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude he/she has no clue what they're talking about…just whining with no real idea of how football works. Their posts continuously back that up. Zero nuance or context and if any of that gets brought up, it's an excuse.

lazy ass debater.

I agree....some of these Kyle Shanahan takes are beyond nonsensical......you've even stated they are 'trolling' so I have to ask....

....why even respond?

webzone is actually 49er trauma from major losses therapy zone

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
I agree....some of these Kyle Shanahan takes are beyond nonsensical......you've even stated they are 'trolling' so I have to ask....

....why even respond?

I shouldn't respond. I usually just block the nonsense. I also feel like that s**t should be pointed out and shown why it's a crap take….if not then this place becomes even more flooded with troll takes and posters refusal to have legit objective convos.

I come here to have to have good logical discussions on everything 49ers…if I wanted to deal with whinny takes fueled by emotion. I would just go to X

Originally posted by picklejuice:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude he/she has no clue what they're talking about…just whining with no real idea of how football works. Their posts continuously back that up. Zero nuance or context and if any of that gets brought up, it's an excuse.

lazy ass debater.

I agree....some of these Kyle Shanahan takes are beyond nonsensical......you've even stated they are 'trolling' so I have to ask....

....why even respond?

webzone is actually 49er trauma from major losses therapy zone

Lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
I agree....some of these Kyle Shanahan takes are beyond nonsensical......you've even stated they are 'trolling' so I have to ask....

....why even respond?

I shouldn't respond. I usually just block the nonsense. I also feel like that s**t should be pointed out and shown why it's a crap take….if not then this place becomes even more flooded with troll takes and posters refusal to have legit objective convos.

I come here to have to have good logical discussions on everything 49ers…if I wanted to deal with whinny takes fueled by emotion. I would just go to X

I understand your position. It's hard not to respond to some of these crazy posts but sometimes you just feel ther need. The ones that really bother me are the reactionary posts based on whatever happened last week. You know the ones. This guy sucks. The coaches are clueless.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I understand your position. It's hard not to respond to some of these crazy posts but sometimes you just feel ther need. The ones that really bother me are the reactionary posts based on whatever happened last week. You know the ones. This guy sucks. The coaches are clueless.

It's f**ked dumb. It's emotional and the lack of perspective makes it even more moronic.

So if Kyle went 1-1 vs 0-2 in the SB, he's untouchable, right? He can coach here as long as he wants…because of ONE game. That's how stupid these posts are. It's the folks that never wanted him, coming out of the woodworks pretending they know anything about football. Like they're smarter than Kyle lol.

the refusal to apply any context to this yr is trolling. Plain and simple.

The whole we don't play for second place or just playoff wins…we're the 49er! Oh yeah since when? They haven't won a SB in over 30 yrs. There's been a f**k ton of losing in between then and before he showed up. s**t we lost a SB before he even got here. The folks crying about Kyle loved Jim for doing the same damn thing!

look Kyle ain't perfect. There's stuff he needs to do to improve. This team needs a reset and they need to build it back up. Why the hell can't he do that again? We apparently already have the future franchise QB in place. These haters need to realize the moment Brock is signed to massive extension, that all be keeps Kyle here. Those guys are tied together. Jed isn't paying Brock and then letting Kyle go.

what are the thoughts of Dennis Allen DC

Watching other teams, it's incredible how they get receivers wide open all over the field, meanwhile Kyle makes it look like pulling teeth.

It's comical there are people who still insist this guy is some kind of offensive genius when his receivers literally rank 32nd in average separation. There are no mental gymnastics you can do to get around that fact.

Numerous former players and coaches who watch the film agree that he is not good with the passing game.

Take Mike Martz's protections and combine them with Matt Nagy's route combinations, and you get Kyle Shanahan.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Watching other teams, it's incredible how they get receivers wide open all over the field, meanwhile Kyle makes it look like pulling teeth.

It's comical there are people who still insist this guy is some kind of offensive genius when his receivers literally rank 32nd in average separation. There are no mental gymnastics you can do to get around that fact.

Numerous former players and coaches who watch the film agree that he is not good with the passing game.

Take Mike Martz's protections and combine them with Matt Nagy's route combinations, and you get Kyle Shanahan.

So what's your excuse for all the other years when SF was top 10 in points per game? Just luck? Acting like a third of the league doesn't run a shanahan offense

so one of Bill Belichick's stipulations is to have his son be the HC in waiting lol.

reports are saying the idea of him staying in the NFL is bleak based on the feedback he's gotten.

Dude wants to be a HC for like a yr or two so he can make sure his son gets a HCing gig. WTF

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Watching other teams, it's incredible how they get receivers wide open all over the field, meanwhile Kyle makes it look like pulling teeth.

It's comical there are people who still insist this guy is some kind of offensive genius when his receivers literally rank 32nd in average separation. There are no mental gymnastics you can do to get around that fact.

Numerous former players and coaches who watch the film agree that he is not good with the passing game.

Take Mike Martz's protections and combine them with Matt Nagy's route combinations, and you get Kyle Shanahan.

So what's your excuse for all the other years when SF was top 10 in points per game? Just luck? Acting like a third of the league doesn't run a shanahan offense

25.18 ppg during Shanny's 115 regular season games prior to this year. Last year was his most @ 28.88 ppg. This year we're at 22.5. We are what our record says we are but had we been able to score just 10 more pts during our three division game losses we'd probably be sitting at 8-4 instead of 5-7 at this point. Wouldn't matter much now after losing CMC and JM and getting our asses handed to us the past few weeks but oh well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
so one of Bill Belichick's stipulations is to have his son be the HC in waiting lol.

reports are saying the idea of him staying in the NFL is bleak based on the feedback he's gotten.

Dude wants to be a HC for like a yr or two so he can make sure his son gets a HCing gig. WTF

beware of the sons of notable NFL head coaches

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Watching other teams, it's incredible how they get receivers wide open all over the field, meanwhile Kyle makes it look like pulling teeth.

It's comical there are people who still insist this guy is some kind of offensive genius when his receivers literally rank 32nd in average separation. There are no mental gymnastics you can do to get around that fact.

Numerous former players and coaches who watch the film agree that he is not good with the passing game.

Take Mike Martz's protections and combine them with Matt Nagy's route combinations, and you get Kyle Shanahan.

So what's your excuse for all the other years when SF was top 10 in points per game? Just luck? Acting like a third of the league doesn't run a shanahan offense

Detroit runs an offense similar to what Kyle uses. So do several other teams around the country. If kyle has an issue it's adjusting but what they really need is better receivers. Deebo and Aiyuk are both good but not great. Jennings is a nice 3rd receiver and we havewn't seen enough of Pearsall to know.

Detroit has 2 things that the Niners don't have. They have a great line that allows Goff time to throw and they have speedy skillplayers in the backfield and at WR.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Watching other teams, it's incredible how they get receivers wide open all over the field, meanwhile Kyle makes it look like pulling teeth.

It's comical there are people who still insist this guy is some kind of offensive genius when his receivers literally rank 32nd in average separation. There are no mental gymnastics you can do to get around that fact.

Numerous former players and coaches who watch the film agree that he is not good with the passing game.

Take Mike Martz's protections and combine them with Matt Nagy's route combinations, and you get Kyle Shanahan.

"Expert"

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Watching other teams, it's incredible how they get receivers wide open all over the field, meanwhile Kyle makes it look like pulling teeth.

It's comical there are people who still insist this guy is some kind of offensive genius when his receivers literally rank 32nd in average separation. There are no mental gymnastics you can do to get around that fact.

Numerous former players and coaches who watch the film agree that he is not good with the passing game.

Take Mike Martz's protections and combine them with Matt Nagy's route combinations, and you get Kyle Shanahan.

So what's your excuse for all the other years when SF was top 10 in points per game? Just luck? Acting like a third of the league doesn't run a shanahan offense

25.18 ppg during Shanny's 115 regular season games prior to this year. Last year was his most @ 28.88 ppg. This year we're at 22.5. We are what our record says we are but had we been able to score just 10 more pts during our three division game losses we'd probably be sitting at 8-4 instead of 5-7 at this point. Wouldn't matter much now after losing CMC and JM and getting our asses handed to us the past few weeks but oh well.

Agreed.

I mean special teams alone has cost this team multiple wins


That's only thru 10 weeks. s**t is even worse now.