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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by Afrikan:
What a piece of s**t and like I have said many times, an idiot.

So your dumb ass traded three 1st round picks to move up to choose a "running QB"? That's what you tried? How about if you tried to develop the QB as a regular QB? Trey didn't need to be a "running QB" to beat the Texans, his second game as a starter. He mainly beat them with his arm. So the next time he started (the next season), you want to come out with a running QB? Run him until he got injured?

Steve Young's comments focused on how defenses have adapted to Shanahan's offensive strategies, proposing that the coach explore innovative approaches to counteract opponents' adjustments to his play-calling.

On Friday, Shanahan addressed this narrative, providing a lengthy response during his media availability.

"That's what you try to do every single week," Shanahan said. "That's what you try to always do, but you don't ... just say, 'Hey, today I'm going to try to run the wishbone offense and stuff.' It's what are the players that you have, what do you believe in, and what gives those guys the best chance to succeed?

"For a little bit here, we almost went with the running quarterback, possibly, with Trey [Lance]. You saw a different offense when he got out there. You see different things. You gotta adjust to your players."

The QB has to have the ability to be a "regular QB" in order to be developed as such. Trey has been in the league enough years to know that he doesn't have it.

Trey and Tyshun. You choose strange players to defend.
Originally posted by Furlow:
The QB has to have the ability to be a "regular QB" in order to be developed as such. Trey has been in the league enough years to know that he doesn't have it.

Trey and Tyshun. You choose strange players to defend.

Defending Deebo isn't strange. He's having a bad year and maybe he's already on the decline, but he's also been one of our strongest playmakers and one of the most dynamic players in the league. Critical aspect of our title contention over the last 5 years.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
He couldn't be trusted, yet was trusted to keep our playoff hopes alive... and Trey came through. Kyle didn't play "to his strengths" in that game... the most important game of that season. If we lost that game we were eliminated from the playoffs.

If Kyle didn't choose Trey with that #3 pick, who should he have chosen? The mistake wasn't the choice, it was not BEING f**kING PREPARED.. just like our Super Bowl loss. Not knowing what the f**k you wanted to do when you traded all those picks to move up to #3.

This I agree with to a degree. There's no question it was a bad trade up, and we paid for it.

We just need better draft decisions. We got lucky in the late rounds but that is not sustainable and low odds. Not Kyle's strength, should just specify what he likes and let others make those calls on who will be good in the NFL.

Ji'Ayir showed signs but then fell off. The defense was much better wth Huff. So if you look at what has happened in the later rounds we did really good building around that, it's just not a long term strategy.

Moody should have been a tackle or center we could have been developing. We just need someone better to oversee the draft.
  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by evil:
Jim Harbaugh. Trey Lance.

My gosh, some of you are stuck in the freaking past

You learn from the past, not ignore it.

The past be it last week... last month... or the last few years. Something Kyle's stubborn ass hasn't shown us he has the ability to do, or want to do.

They have learnt from the past which is why Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch was hired as a pair.
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
The QB has to have the ability to be a "regular QB" in order to be developed as such. Trey has been in the league enough years to know that he doesn't have it.

Trey and Tyshun. You choose strange players to defend.

Defending Deebo isn't strange. He's having a bad year and maybe he's already on the decline, but he's also been one of our strongest playmakers and one of the most dynamic players in the league. Critical aspect of our title contention over the last 5 years.

Yes but Afrikan has blamed everyone but Tyshun himself for his bad year this year.
[ Edited by Furlow on Dec 21, 2024 at 11:52 AM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Yes but you have blamed everyone but Tyshun himself for his bad year this year.

I think you must have thought Afrikan made that reply, lol. I haven't blamed anybody for Deebo's year.
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Yes but you have blamed everyone but Tyshun himself for his bad year this year.

I think you must have thought Afrikan made that reply, lol. I haven't blamed anybody for Deebo's year.

  • DrEll
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
the only thing that both Harb and Pay share that is better than KS, is that they both bail on their teams when they turn them into s**t

you just put harbs down all day i don't get it. he's a good coach. he's not in competition with shanny

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  • DrEll
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Originally posted by eastie:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Harbs and Payton are both leaps better than ks. His idea of adjusting to teams who have figured him out is to grow a mustache. Enough said. Look at what Denver is developing into…the turnaround with the chargers is also impressive. Next year will be very interesting. It's his make or move the hell on year with us. We are stuck with him for at least one more year. Deebo running plays, stupid timeouts, growing a pair, playing the hot hand and maybe teaching your team to not kill drives with boneheaded penalties are some of the issues I hope he addresses. He likely will not address those issues and he will continue to ignore the oline and he won't add real coaching assistants He is not ready to admit he needs all that. run it back Kyle is what we will get and we will still be talking about the need for new blood next year.. I suspect more fans will be ready to ship him out though.

I don't remember any talk around the league about Harbs being any kind of genius for offense or defense. I've heard it many times about KS and his offense. I like how you say "we're stuck with him" LOL. We're lucky to have him. He took this team, which was a dumpster fire, and turned it into a perennial title challenger.

lol. Interesting way to pen 'Superbowl loser'…
Originally posted by DrEll:
lol. Interesting way to pen 'Superbowl loser'…

They're both accurate descriptions. Most people just understand it's not a negative to be in Super Bowl contention for half a decade, lol.
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
lol. Interesting way to pen 'Superbowl loser'…

They're both accurate descriptions. Most people just understand it's not a negative to be in Super Bowl contention for half a decade, lol.

Sure it is. When you lose twice to the same team that you were leading by double digits.

go ask the Bills fans about SB contention in the early 90s. I'm sure they have plenty of warm fuzzy tales about their success and the pride they felt for SB "contention" for half a decade
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
lol. Interesting way to pen 'Superbowl loser'…

They're both accurate descriptions. Most people just understand it's not a negative to be in Super Bowl contention for half a decade, lol.

Sure it is. When you lose twice to the same team that you were leading by double digits.

go ask the Bills fans about SB contention in the early 90s. I'm sure they have plenty of warm fuzzy tales about their success and the pride they felt for SB "contention" for half a decade

They'll tell you it sucked but also it wasn't a "negative." That's absurd. They would tell you it's a lot better than the 2000's/2010's when their season was over by the middle of October.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Sure it is. When you lose twice to the same team that you were leading by double digits.

go ask the Bills fans about SB contention in the early 90s. I'm sure they have plenty of warm fuzzy tales about their success and the pride they felt for SB "contention" for half a decade

They do. Especially when they nearly went two decades without the playoffs afterwards.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Sure it is. When you lose twice to the same team that you were leading by double digits.

go ask the Bills fans about SB contention in the early 90s. I'm sure they have plenty of warm fuzzy tales about their success and the pride they felt for SB "contention" for half a decade

They do. Especially when they nearly went two decades without the playoffs afterwards.
I see DrL still not making any sense
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Sure it is. When you lose twice to the same team that you were leading by double digits.

go ask the Bills fans about SB contention in the early 90s. I'm sure they have plenty of warm fuzzy tales about their success and the pride they felt for SB "contention" for half a decade

They do. Especially when they nearly went two decades without the playoffs afterwards.

No they don't. I live in NY, and I can assure you no Bills fans consider that era as part of their "glory" years. If anything, they try their best to avoid any conversation that even broaches that topic.
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