49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't have fond memories of recent years. I got nightmares of a team choking away 2 SB's.

lol exactly. These Shanahan fans are something else. They consider this 2 SB / 2 NFCC loss era as some sort of glorified time period that will be remembered fondly by fans. lol wut ?!

Sadly, they use baseless anecdotes to defend their claims. I LIVE in NY, and interact with Bills Jets and Giants fans daily. But hey some of these guys that live nowhere near NY have a "friend" that tells them Marv Levy was the greatest coach ever and those 90s Bills were an all-time team. Therefore, if those "friends" can think like that, then all Bills fans think like that, therefore all us Niner fans should consider the Shanahan era as this very successful period that will go down in history and we will never forget how great he was

it's getting comical with these guys…

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't have fond memories of recent years. I got nightmares of a team choking away 2 SB's.

lol exactly. These Shanahan fans are something else. They consider this 2 SB / 2 NFCC loss era as some sort of glorified time period that will be remembered fondly by fans. lol wut ?!

Sadly, they use baseless anecdotes to defend their claims. I LIVE in NY, and interact with Bills Jets and Giants fans daily. But hey some of these guys that live nowhere near NY have a "friend" that tells them Marv Levy was the greatest coach ever and those 90s Bills were an all-time team. Therefore, if those "friends" can think like that, then all Bills fans think like that, therefore all us Niner fans should consider the Shanahan era as this very successful period that will go down in history and we will never forget how great he was

it's getting comical with these guys…

We passed comical 100 miles ago.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't have fond memories of recent years. I got nightmares of a team choking away 2 SB's.

Nothing like the sight of Clueless Kyle.

I believe the Super Bowl hangover is real. It is hard to keep the guys as hungry and fired up all long season long after a long hard run to get there, only to lose it. I also believe that Kyle has lost a lot of trust in the players' confidence in winning it even if they do get back there. A big part of that is Kyle's total bonehead mismanagement of giving Mahomes the first opportunity to win it. I believe it was disgraceful and a bad character look for him not to own it by saying his "analytics department" told him to do that. Nobody told him to do that with two gray cells between their ears to rub together. I don't know if it was just a brain f@rt, or he didn't know the playoff OT rules, but either way, he wasn't prepared. Kinda what all coaches preach to the players.

I know Kyle's record, but so many of the things that got him there will not be replicated in the future. There is something to the idea that defenses have now had years to make their adjustments to his offense, and it sure looks to me that he is not being flexible to make them pay for those adjustments.

He shows No ability to run a defense or ST, so he needs great coordinators in those positions. He totally failed in hiring those positions this year. Too bummed out to put out the effort?

Is he a motivator? Yes, hangover, but gee wizz, where's the effort to overcome that. Where's the results. This team looks flat.

Coaching? These guys are running into each other. These guys are dropping way too many balls. Yeah, I know, injuries. But imo, these guys aren't bearing down mentally. And nobody's calling them out and making them. Maybe that can't win enough games, but they can sure look better.

Many players have suggested that Kyle has favorites. He does. It causes him to hang on to these guys Way beyond when he should be working younger players onto the field. This also causes him to retain these players on the roster too long, and paying them too much to do so, and now we're on the verge of cap hell.

Kyle's record has been aided by what many have thought to be the best roster in the league. I credit that to the guy that has that job. It's just my opinion, but to the extent Kyle does influence player acquisitions, I think he leans towards traits, whereas Lynch leans towards football players. Kyle leans for keeping those favorites instead of turning them into draft picks, which heads you into a wall. Player evaluation is a talent that many coaches do not do well in, but Lynch has always said he won't deny what Kyle needs for his offense. It was reported that John did ask Kyle if he was sure he wanted to pass on Mahomes, and Kyle said that he did.

I've posed this question many times, and I've yet to see an answer. Aside from play design, what head coach functions is Kyle above average at? Imo, it's not motivation, it's not managing a defense, it's not managing special teams, it's not making in game adjustments on offense when the defense is out in front of you, it's not in bringing young players along and getting them reps, it's not putting pressure on players and holding them accountable to not make mistakes, it's not on taking responsibility for failures as opposed to blaming players. You know what? It's not even coaching up players. As an offensive guy, what quarterback has he ever made better under his leadership from when they first walked onto his field?

I've been a Niner fan for a long time. I know. He hit the ground running with a thoughtful offense and young players and had significant succerss. But the offense is stale, and the players are old and lacking that youthful exuberance, and his reluctance to move on from his favorites has driven us into cap restraints. I think we're done, until we get some new blood in the Head Coaching office.

Just My Opinion.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't have fond memories of recent years. I got nightmares of a team choking away 2 SB's.

lol exactly. These Shanahan fans are something else. They consider this 2 SB / 2 NFCC loss era as some sort of glorified time period that will be remembered fondly by fans. lol wut ?!

Sadly, they use baseless anecdotes to defend their claims. I LIVE in NY, and interact with Bills Jets and Giants fans daily. But hey some of these guys that live nowhere near NY have a "friend" that tells them Marv Levy was the greatest coach ever and those 90s Bills were an all-time team. Therefore, if those "friends" can think like that, then all Bills fans think like that, therefore all us Niner fans should consider the Shanahan era as this very successful period that will go down in history and we will never forget how great he was

it's getting comical with these guys…

Every single day. Even on a weekend, doesn't even sleep in. Wakes up early just to cry about KS lmao. I'm glad the mods didn't keep you on TO too long, I bet you were going insane not able to make 6 AM posts about Kyle.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I believe the Super Bowl hangover is real. It is hard to keep the guys as hungry and fired up all long season long after a long hard run to get there, only to lose it. I also believe that Kyle has lost a lot of trust in the players' confidence in winning it even if they do get back there. A big part of that is Kyle's total bonehead mismanagement of giving Mahomes the first opportunity to win it. I believe it was disgraceful and a bad character look for him not to own it by saying his "analytics department" told him to do that. Nobody told him to do that with two gray cells between their ears to rub together. I don't know if it was just a brain f@rt, or he didn't know the playoff OT rules, but either way, he wasn't prepared. Kinda what all coaches preach to the players.

I know Kyle's record, but so many of the things that got him there will not be replicated in the future. There is something to the idea that defenses have now had years to make their adjustments to his offense, and it sure looks to me that he is not being flexible to make them pay for those adjustments.

He shows No ability to run a defense or ST, so he needs great coordinators in those positions. He totally failed in hiring those positions this year. Too bummed out to put out the effort?

Is he a motivator? Yes, hangover, but gee wizz, where's the effort to overcome that. Where's the results. This team looks flat.

Coaching? These guys are running into each other. These guys are dropping way too many balls. Yeah, I know, injuries. But imo, these guys aren't bearing down mentally. And nobody's calling them out and making them. Maybe that can't win enough games, but they can sure look better.

Many players have suggested that Kyle has favorites. He does. It causes him to hang on to these guys Way beyond when he should be working younger players onto the field. This also causes him to retain these players on the roster too long, and paying them too much to do so, and now we're on the verge of cap hell.

Kyle's record has been aided by what many have thought to be the best roster in the league. I credit that to the guy that has that job. It's just my opinion, but to the extent Kyle does influence player acquisitions, I think he leans towards traits, whereas Lynch leans towards football players. Kyle leans for keeping those favorites instead of turning them into draft picks, which heads you into a wall. Player evaluation is a talent that many coaches do not do well in, but Lynch has always said he won't deny what Kyle needs for his offense. It was reported that John did ask Kyle if he was sure he wanted to pass on Mahomes, and Kyle said that he did.

I've posed this question many times, and I've yet to see an answer. Aside from play design, what head coach functions is Kyle above average at? Imo, it's not motivation, it's not managing a defense, it's not managing special teams, it's not making in game adjustments on offense when the defense is out in front of you, it's not in bringing young players along and getting them reps, it's not putting pressure on players and holding them accountable to not make mistakes, it's not on taking responsibility for failures as opposed to blaming players. You know what? It's not even coaching up players. As an offensive guy, what quarterback has he ever made better under his leadership from when they first walked onto his field?

I've been a Niner fan for a long time. I know. He hit the ground running with a thoughtful offense and young players and had significant succerss. But the offense is stale, and the players are old and lacking that youthful exuberance, and his reluctance to move on from his favorites has driven us into cap restraints. I think we're done, until we get some new blood in the Head Coaching office.

Just My Opinion.

Great post.

now get ready for the backlash….

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't have fond memories of recent years. I got nightmares of a team choking away 2 SB's.

lol exactly. These Shanahan fans are something else. They consider this 2 SB / 2 NFCC loss era as some sort of glorified time period that will be remembered fondly by fans. lol wut ?!

Sadly, they use baseless anecdotes to defend their claims. I LIVE in NY, and interact with Bills Jets and Giants fans daily. But hey some of these guys that live nowhere near NY have a "friend" that tells them Marv Levy was the greatest coach ever and those 90s Bills were an all-time team. Therefore, if those "friends" can think like that, then all Bills fans think like that, therefore all us Niner fans should consider the Shanahan era as this very successful period that will go down in history and we will never forget how great he was

it's getting comical with these guys…

Every single day. Even on a weekend, doesn't even sleep in. Wakes up early just to cry about KS lmao. I'm glad the mods didn't keep you on TO too long, I bet you were going insane not able to make 6 AM posts about Kyle.

Work

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't have fond memories of recent years. I got nightmares of a team choking away 2 SB's.

lol exactly. These Shanahan fans are something else. They consider this 2 SB / 2 NFCC loss era as some sort of glorified time period that will be remembered fondly by fans. lol wut ?!

Sadly, they use baseless anecdotes to defend their claims. I LIVE in NY, and interact with Bills Jets and Giants fans daily. But hey some of these guys that live nowhere near NY have a "friend" that tells them Marv Levy was the greatest coach ever and those 90s Bills were an all-time team. Therefore, if those "friends" can think like that, then all Bills fans think like that, therefore all us Niner fans should consider the Shanahan era as this very successful period that will go down in history and we will never forget how great he was

it's getting comical with these guys…

Every single day. Even on a weekend, doesn't even sleep in. Wakes up early just to cry about KS lmao. I'm glad the mods didn't keep you on TO too long, I bet you were going insane not able to make 6 AM posts about Kyle.

Work

Ya I wouldn't be surprised if this was your "work"

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by lamontb:
I don't have fond memories of recent years. I got nightmares of a team choking away 2 SB's.

lol exactly. These Shanahan fans are something else. They consider this 2 SB / 2 NFCC loss era as some sort of glorified time period that will be remembered fondly by fans. lol wut ?!

Sadly, they use baseless anecdotes to defend their claims. I LIVE in NY, and interact with Bills Jets and Giants fans daily. But hey some of these guys that live nowhere near NY have a "friend" that tells them Marv Levy was the greatest coach ever and those 90s Bills were an all-time team. Therefore, if those "friends" can think like that, then all Bills fans think like that, therefore all us Niner fans should consider the Shanahan era as this very successful period that will go down in history and we will never forget how great he was

it's getting comical with these guys…

We passed comical 100 miles ago.

What's comical is talking out your ass and acting like whatever you are imagining in your head is true.

No one here is saying any sort of crap your spewing, I and other are just telling you how stupid your posts are because none of it is true.

if you want to talk football, then talk football. don't come crying and whining and expect grown men to follow you.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I believe the Super Bowl hangover is real. It is hard to keep the guys as hungry and fired up all long season long after a long hard run to get there, only to lose it. I also believe that Kyle has lost a lot of trust in the players' confidence in winning it even if they do get back there. A big part of that is Kyle's total bonehead mismanagement of giving Mahomes the first opportunity to win it. I believe it was disgraceful and a bad character look for him not to own it by saying his "analytics department" told him to do that. Nobody told him to do that with two gray cells between their ears to rub together. I don't know if it was just a brain f@rt, or he didn't know the playoff OT rules, but either way, he wasn't prepared. Kinda what all coaches preach to the players.

I know Kyle's record, but so many of the things that got him there will not be replicated in the future. There is something to the idea that defenses have now had years to make their adjustments to his offense, and it sure looks to me that he is not being flexible to make them pay for those adjustments.

He shows No ability to run a defense or ST, so he needs great coordinators in those positions. He totally failed in hiring those positions this year. Too bummed out to put out the effort?

Is he a motivator? Yes, hangover, but gee wizz, where's the effort to overcome that. Where's the results. This team looks flat.

Coaching? These guys are running into each other. These guys are dropping way too many balls. Yeah, I know, injuries. But imo, these guys aren't bearing down mentally. And nobody's calling them out and making them. Maybe that can't win enough games, but they can sure look better.

Many players have suggested that Kyle has favorites. He does. It causes him to hang on to these guys Way beyond when he should be working younger players onto the field. This also causes him to retain these players on the roster too long, and paying them too much to do so, and now we're on the verge of cap hell.

Kyle's record has been aided by what many have thought to be the best roster in the league. I credit that to the guy that has that job. It's just my opinion, but to the extent Kyle does influence player acquisitions, I think he leans towards traits, whereas Lynch leans towards football players. Kyle leans for keeping those favorites instead of turning them into draft picks, which heads you into a wall. Player evaluation is a talent that many coaches do not do well in, but Lynch has always said he won't deny what Kyle needs for his offense. It was reported that John did ask Kyle if he was sure he wanted to pass on Mahomes, and Kyle said that he did.

I've posed this question many times, and I've yet to see an answer. Aside from play design, what head coach functions is Kyle above average at? Imo, it's not motivation, it's not managing a defense, it's not managing special teams, it's not making in game adjustments on offense when the defense is out in front of you, it's not in bringing young players along and getting them reps, it's not putting pressure on players and holding them accountable to not make mistakes, it's not on taking responsibility for failures as opposed to blaming players. You know what? It's not even coaching up players. As an offensive guy, what quarterback has he ever made better under his leadership from when they first walked onto his field?

I've been a Niner fan for a long time. I know. He hit the ground running with a thoughtful offense and young players and had significant succerss. But the offense is stale, and the players are old and lacking that youthful exuberance, and his reluctance to move on from his favorites has driven us into cap restraints. I think we're done, until we get some new blood in the Head Coaching office.

Just My Opinion.

Great post.

now get ready for the backlash….

Oh, and has there Ever been a coach with a worse record protecting or overcoming a lead.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I believe the Super Bowl hangover is real. It is hard to keep the guys as hungry and fired up all long season long after a long hard run to get there, only to lose it. I also believe that Kyle has lost a lot of trust in the players' confidence in winning it even if they do get back there. A big part of that is Kyle's total bonehead mismanagement of giving Mahomes the first opportunity to win it. I believe it was disgraceful and a bad character look for him not to own it by saying his "analytics department" told him to do that. Nobody told him to do that with two gray cells between their ears to rub together. I don't know if it was just a brain f@rt, or he didn't know the playoff OT rules, but either way, he wasn't prepared. Kinda what all coaches preach to the players.

I know Kyle's record, but so many of the things that got him there will not be replicated in the future. There is something to the idea that defenses have now had years to make their adjustments to his offense, and it sure looks to me that he is not being flexible to make them pay for those adjustments.

He shows No ability to run a defense or ST, so he needs great coordinators in those positions. He totally failed in hiring those positions this year. Too bummed out to put out the effort?

Is he a motivator? Yes, hangover, but gee wizz, where's the effort to overcome that. Where's the results. This team looks flat.

Coaching? These guys are running into each other. These guys are dropping way too many balls. Yeah, I know, injuries. But imo, these guys aren't bearing down mentally. And nobody's calling them out and making them. Maybe that can't win enough games, but they can sure look better.

Many players have suggested that Kyle has favorites. He does. It causes him to hang on to these guys Way beyond when he should be working younger players onto the field. This also causes him to retain these players on the roster too long, and paying them too much to do so, and now we're on the verge of cap hell.

Kyle's record has been aided by what many have thought to be the best roster in the league. I credit that to the guy that has that job. It's just my opinion, but to the extent Kyle does influence player acquisitions, I think he leans towards traits, whereas Lynch leans towards football players. Kyle leans for keeping those favorites instead of turning them into draft picks, which heads you into a wall. Player evaluation is a talent that many coaches do not do well in, but Lynch has always said he won't deny what Kyle needs for his offense. It was reported that John did ask Kyle if he was sure he wanted to pass on Mahomes, and Kyle said that he did.

I've posed this question many times, and I've yet to see an answer. Aside from play design, what head coach functions is Kyle above average at? Imo, it's not motivation, it's not managing a defense, it's not managing special teams, it's not making in game adjustments on offense when the defense is out in front of you, it's not in bringing young players along and getting them reps, it's not putting pressure on players and holding them accountable to not make mistakes, it's not on taking responsibility for failures as opposed to blaming players. You know what? It's not even coaching up players. As an offensive guy, what quarterback has he ever made better under his leadership from when they first walked onto his field?

I've been a Niner fan for a long time. I know. He hit the ground running with a thoughtful offense and young players and had significant succerss. But the offense is stale, and the players are old and lacking that youthful exuberance, and his reluctance to move on from his favorites has driven us into cap restraints. I think we're done, until we get some new blood in the Head Coaching office.

Just My Opinion.

Great post.

now get ready for the backlash….

Oh, and has there Ever been a coach with a worse record protecting or overcoming a lead.

lol.. There's thousands of pages worth of posts that answers all of your questions.. you just ignore them.

Goodness I'm so happy this board doesn't run the front office lmao

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Goodness I'm so happy this board doesn't run the front office lmao

I don't want to run the front office. I just want Lynch to talk to Jed, tell him he's already publically called this team's performance unacceptable, the HC is leaving too many functions on the table, we're going to be out early, we could talk to people early, there's a lot of talent out there, he knows it would be a sure thing to pump some new ideas and new enthusiasm into this team, he thinks we're an attractive destination, and what would his thought be towards giving him a chance to talk to and interview some people.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Goodness I'm so happy this board doesn't run the front office lmao

I don't want to run the front office. I just want Lynch to talk to Jed, tell him he's already publically called this team's performance unacceptable, the HC is leaving too many functions on the table, we're going to be out early, we could talk to people early, there's a lot of talent out there, he knows it would be a sure thing to pump some new ideas and new enthusiasm into this team, he thinks we're an attractive destination, and what would his thought be towards giving him a chance to talk to and interview some people.

I really, really don't understand how this fanbase even functions in day-to-day life.

When you barely lose the Super Bowl, the solution isn't to just rip it all down and start from scratch again. Is a solution needed? Absolutely. But when there's a scratch in the wall or a broken fence, you don't just burn your house down and then start saving up for a new place. You address it the right way: directly and head-on.

I really, really thought this fanbase would learn from firing Harbaugh and replacing him with Tomsula of all people. Guess not. Fortunately it looks like Jed has.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I believe the Super Bowl hangover is real. It is hard to keep the guys as hungry and fired up all long season long after a long hard run to get there, only to lose it. I also believe that Kyle has lost a lot of trust in the players' confidence in winning it even if they do get back there. A big part of that is Kyle's total bonehead mismanagement of giving Mahomes the first opportunity to win it. I believe it was disgraceful and a bad character look for him not to own it by saying his "analytics department" told him to do that. Nobody told him to do that with two gray cells between their ears to rub together. I don't know if it was just a brain f@rt, or he didn't know the playoff OT rules, but either way, he wasn't prepared. Kinda what all coaches preach to the players.

I know Kyle's record, but so many of the things that got him there will not be replicated in the future. There is something to the idea that defenses have now had years to make their adjustments to his offense, and it sure looks to me that he is not being flexible to make them pay for those adjustments.

He shows No ability to run a defense or ST, so he needs great coordinators in those positions. He totally failed in hiring those positions this year. Too bummed out to put out the effort?

Is he a motivator? Yes, hangover, but gee wizz, where's the effort to overcome that. Where's the results. This team looks flat.

Coaching? These guys are running into each other. These guys are dropping way too many balls. Yeah, I know, injuries. But imo, these guys aren't bearing down mentally. And nobody's calling them out and making them. Maybe that can't win enough games, but they can sure look better.

Many players have suggested that Kyle has favorites. He does. It causes him to hang on to these guys Way beyond when he should be working younger players onto the field. This also causes him to retain these players on the roster too long, and paying them too much to do so, and now we're on the verge of cap hell.

Kyle's record has been aided by what many have thought to be the best roster in the league. I credit that to the guy that has that job. It's just my opinion, but to the extent Kyle does influence player acquisitions, I think he leans towards traits, whereas Lynch leans towards football players. Kyle leans for keeping those favorites instead of turning them into draft picks, which heads you into a wall. Player evaluation is a talent that many coaches do not do well in, but Lynch has always said he won't deny what Kyle needs for his offense. It was reported that John did ask Kyle if he was sure he wanted to pass on Mahomes, and Kyle said that he did.

I've posed this question many times, and I've yet to see an answer. Aside from play design, what head coach functions is Kyle above average at? Imo, it's not motivation, it's not managing a defense, it's not managing special teams, it's not making in game adjustments on offense when the defense is out in front of you, it's not in bringing young players along and getting them reps, it's not putting pressure on players and holding them accountable to not make mistakes, it's not on taking responsibility for failures as opposed to blaming players. You know what? It's not even coaching up players. As an offensive guy, what quarterback has he ever made better under his leadership from when they first walked onto his field?

I've been a Niner fan for a long time. I know. He hit the ground running with a thoughtful offense and young players and had significant succerss. But the offense is stale, and the players are old and lacking that youthful exuberance, and his reluctance to move on from his favorites has driven us into cap restraints. I think we're done, until we get some new blood in the Head Coaching office.

Just My Opinion.

Great post.

now get ready for the backlash….

Oh, and has there Ever been a coach with a worse record protecting or overcoming a lead.

lol.. There's thousands of pages worth of posts that answers all of your questions.. you just ignore them.

I know. I keep looking, but I just can't find it. Could you help me out, please? What head coach functions is Kyle Shanahan good at besides play design? Somebody, please. I need a direct answer. Trying to find it buried in 5,000 pages just isn't easy. If you know, please share.