49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Shanahan went to the Super Bowl with two different QB's and you say he's not a good coach? What other teams have done that since the year 2000?

Shanahan is a great play designer. With the right QB and skill players he can win a ton of games. And no one is perfect and everyone has weaknesses. We are now seeing Kyles. Can he win another 11+ games next year. Yes. If things end up more like this year its not going to go well. There is no middle ground with him.

More what? Players kids dying, players getting shot missing the whole off season, injuries to key players/starters and players quitting causing a distraction in the locker room? You mean those things?

If players get hurt. If players hold out. If personal issues get in the way. If we get rid of Deebo and Ricky doesn't do anything. If the 49ers fail to address the OL. Could be anything. Mike Tomlin has been at lest a .500 coach every season. That isn't going to be Shanahan.

This post doesn't make any sense, you favor 500 coach but Shan isn't good because he gets to superbowls?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Shanahan went to the Super Bowl with two different QB's and you say he's not a good coach? What other teams have done that since the year 2000?

Shanahan is a great play designer. With the right QB and skill players he can win a ton of games. And no one is perfect and everyone has weaknesses. We are now seeing Kyles. Can he win another 11+ games next year. Yes. If things end up more like this year its not going to go well. There is no middle ground with him.

More what? Players kids dying, players getting shot missing the whole off season, injuries to key players/starters and players quitting causing a distraction in the locker room? You mean those things?

If players get hurt. If players hold out. If personal issues get in the way. If we get rid of Deebo and Ricky doesn't do anything. If the 49ers fail to address the OL. Could be anything. Mike Tomlin has been at lest a .500 coach every season. That isn't going to be Shanahan.

This post doesn't make any sense, you favor 500 coach but Shan isn't good because he gets to superbowls?

Who said i favor a .500 coach? I was saying there are some coaches that when things go wrong they can eek out a winning record. Shanahan is that kind of coach. So if things are going wrong as we have seen this year its not going to end well. Hopefully this team is more 2023 then 2024 next year.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Kyle isn't a good COACH but he is a GREAT play caller. You can win a Super bowl with him when he has the exact right pieces. When he doesn't its going to look terrible.

You can't be a bad coach and go to multiple SBs and NFCCs.

No coach is winning it all when they don't have the pieces in place.

Mike McCarthy coached in 4 NFC title games, won a Super bowl and won 12 games three straight years in Dallas. I think a lot would say he isn't a good coach or is overrated. You can be a great offensive coach and win a lot of games without being a good head coach.

You actually think it was mostly McCarthy that won on those teams. Before McCarthy was hired by those teams, he didn't have to build his rosters, only repair them. The most important piece to his offense was already on the team in Aaron Rodgers and Dak Prescott, so I wouldn't give McCarthy too much credit.

Does Shanahan get credit for Jimmy G even though he spend the 1st part of his career in NE?

Lol, you're really comparing Jimmy G, who only played in two games to a HOF QB and a Pro Bowl QB?

I'm asking a question and instead of answering you are trying to deflect.

Yes, Shanahan SHOULD get the credit. Just as O'Connell should get the credit for Sam Darnold.

And McCarthy gets credit for Rodgers.

Does McCarthy also get credit for advocating for Alex smith and passing on Rodgers?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
Kyle isn't a good COACH but he is a GREAT play caller. You can win a Super bowl with him when he has the exact right pieces. When he doesn't its going to look terrible.

You can't be a bad coach and go to multiple SBs and NFCCs.

No coach is winning it all when they don't have the pieces in place.

Mike McCarthy coached in 4 NFC title games, won a Super bowl and won 12 games three straight years in Dallas. I think a lot would say he isn't a good coach or is overrated. You can be a great offensive coach and win a lot of games without being a good head coach.

You actually think it was mostly McCarthy that won on those teams. Before McCarthy was hired by those teams, he didn't have to build his rosters, only repair them. The most important piece to his offense was already on the team in Aaron Rodgers and Dak Prescott, so I wouldn't give McCarthy too much credit.

Does Shanahan get credit for Jimmy G even though he spend the 1st part of his career in NE?

Lol, you're really comparing Jimmy G, who only played in two games to a HOF QB and a Pro Bowl QB?

I'm asking a question and instead of answering you are trying to deflect.

Yes, Shanahan SHOULD get the credit. Just as O'Connell should get the credit for Sam Darnold.

And McCarthy gets credit for Rodgers.

Does McCarthy also get credit for advocating for Alex smith and passing on Rodgers?

Oooh ouch!!!!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Method:
Uh... Tom Brady literally asked if he can come here and Shanalynch said no we are good with Jimmy g.

Move on.

At that point everyone thought Brady was done…even Bill….Jimmy was just coming off a SB run.

love how people have selective memory on what really happened.

OH and they tried to get Brady. Twice. He tried to get Rogers and Stafford as well.

With that said, if Rodgers says he wants to finish his career here and Brock plays hardball asking for 60+, does Kyle make the same mistake twice ?

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Method:
Uh... Tom Brady literally asked if he can come here and Shanalynch said no we are good with Jimmy g.

Move on.

At that point everyone thought Brady was done…even Bill….Jimmy was just coming off a SB run.

love how people have selective memory on what really happened.

OH and they tried to get Brady. Twice. He tried to get Rogers and Stafford as well.

With that said, if Rodgers says he wants to finish his career here and Brock plays hardball asking for 60+, does Kyle make the same mistake twice ?

Rodgers isa fkin weirdo and trash now, did you not look up the game yesterday? Rodgers has everything going for him in NYJ and all the HOF QB can muster up is a 4 win season so far!!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Method:
Uh... Tom Brady literally asked if he can come here and Shanalynch said no we are good with Jimmy g.

Move on.

At that point everyone thought Brady was done…even Bill….Jimmy was just coming off a SB run.

love how people have selective memory on what really happened.

OH and they tried to get Brady. Twice. He tried to get Rogers and Stafford as well.

With that said, if Rodgers says he wants to finish his career here and Brock plays hardball asking for 60+, does Kyle make the same mistake twice ?

Rodgers isa fkin weirdo and trash now, did you not look up the game yesterday? Rodgers has everything going for him in NYJ and all the HOF QB can muster up is a 4 win season so far!!!

I wish we could pull up your posts when this all went down with Tom Brady. I bet your comments were very similar to what you just posted.

some of you guys never learn.
just tow the company line.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Method:
Uh... Tom Brady literally asked if he can come here and Shanalynch said no we are good with Jimmy g.

Move on.

At that point everyone thought Brady was done…even Bill….Jimmy was just coming off a SB run.

love how people have selective memory on what really happened.

OH and they tried to get Brady. Twice. He tried to get Rogers and Stafford as well.

With that said, if Rodgers says he wants to finish his career here and Brock plays hardball asking for 60+, does Kyle make the same mistake twice ?

Rodgers isa fkin weirdo and trash now, did you not look up the game yesterday? Rodgers has everything going for him in NYJ and all the HOF QB can muster up is a 4 win season so far!!!

I wish we could pull up your posts when this all went down with Tom Brady. I bet your comments were very similar to what you just posted.

some of you guys never learn.
just tow the company line.

LOL go ahead my guy. All you, do your worst!!!!

"You gotta understand, I'm being real—Kyle is smart as hell," Gore told Matt Maiocco and Jennifer Lee-Chan. "When I sit in meetings with him at times, [I'm] surprised how much he knows about the game. How he dials up the plays and how he looks at stuff, to make things look so simple.

"That's why I think the guys who would come in, he makes it simple for them. He shows them their first read, he's showing how to line , get off the ball, and he makes it easy for the guys."

"I would have went crazy in this system. I would have went crazy," Gore confidently stated. "I probably would have had 20,000 [rushing yards]."

"I tell Kyle that, though," Gore added. "When I sat down and watched how he goes over things, I said, 'Bro, I would have had 20,000 yards in this system.' I tell Kyle that every time we talk."

I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Originally posted by DrEll:

I wish we could pull up your posts when this all went down with Tom Brady. I bet your comments were very similar to what you just posted.

some of you guys never learn.
just tow the company line.

Brady and Rodgers are different. Brady at least tried Arians offense before they decided it wasn't working. Rodgers and Kyle are basically the same immature guy clashing with opposite views of how offense should be ran

Why do you hate correct punctuations and paragraphs?

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

His playcalling wasn't fine. I've been listening to the biggest Kyle supporters on YouTube ripping him apart for playing loser football. The seasons over and he's still calling a conservative game, going for FG's instead of being aggresive. It's actually refreshing to hear Larry Krueger finally ripping into Kyle. Kyle is just Kyle. This is who he is and even against a bad team when it doesn't count anymore, he doesn't know how to be aggressive. He's giving us examples every game why he will NEVER win a Super Bowl, anywhere. Because Kyle doesn't know how to change.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.