49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

it's not that the coach does no wrong, he just doesn't have his normal tools. Stop acting like he has never done anything, because i can show you a lot more current coaches who really haven't

what i was saying after last years playoffs we may need a fresh set of eyes so though kyle is a good coach by league standards, he may have ran his course unless he remakes himself. getting stale.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

it's not that the coach does no wrong, he just doesn't have his normal tools. Stop acting like he has never done anything, because i can show you a lot more current coaches who really haven't

Again with the what he's done in the past answer. What is he doing now? What will he do next year? How will he get them back to .500? Has he learned anything from this year?

Originally posted by DrEll:
I wish we could pull up your posts when this all went down with Tom Brady. I bet your comments were very similar to what you just posted.

some of you guys never learn.
just tow the company line.

Rogers isn't good anymore. He destroys culture and locker rooms. I watch those NJ games all the time and s**t is not good.

I like Jimmy, then he played enough to show all his warts. No one thought Brady was still the man when he went to TB…kyle reached out to Brady last yr man. That is documented.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Again with the what he's done in the past answer. What is he doing now? What will he do next year? How will he get them back to .500? Has he learned anything from this year?

if you look at some of the posts in here, nothing has been learned, we just wait for that season with 100% full health

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Again with the what he's done in the past answer. What is he doing now? What will he do next year? How will he get them back to .500? Has he learned anything from this year?

Well how about you look at the past if you want an answer…same s**t happened in 2020. This team was not in a good place after that season and imo had bigger questions at QB than what we have right now.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

George Kittle: "Frustrating for sure... The penalties on offense all the pre snap penalties, that's just bad football. I don't put that on coach Shanahan. I don't put that on the wide receiver's coach, the o-line coach, tight end's coach, that's on us." pic.twitter.com/vJZB9IKtqB

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) December 23, 2024

But Cheetos dust fingers told us this morning it's all on the HC

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
what i was saying after last years playoffs we may need a fresh set of eyes so though kyle is a good coach by league standards, he may have ran his course unless he remakes himself. getting stale.

I think he tried very early this season but the o line and skill players couldnt do it.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

George Kittle: "Frustrating for sure... The penalties on offense all the pre snap penalties, that's just bad football. I don't put that on coach Shanahan. I don't put that on the wide receiver's coach, the o-line coach, tight end's coach, that's on us." pic.twitter.com/vJZB9IKtqB

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) December 23, 2024

But Cheetos dust fingers told us this morning it's all on the HC

They tell us lots of stuff.

I posted this a bit ago but here's Frank Gore talking about Kyle :

Originally posted by evil:

"You gotta understand, I'm being real—Kyle is smart as hell," Gore told Matt Maiocco and Jennifer Lee-Chan. "When I sit in meetings with him at times, [I'm] surprised how much he knows about the game. How he dials up the plays and how he looks at stuff, to make things look so simple.

"That's why I think the guys who would come in, he makes it simple for them. He shows them their first read, he's showing how to line , get off the ball, and he makes it easy for the guys."

"I would have went crazy in this system. I would have went crazy," Gore confidently stated. "I probably would have had 20,000 [rushing yards]."

"I tell Kyle that, though," Gore added. "When I sat down and watched how he goes over things, I said, 'Bro, I would have had 20,000 yards in this system.' I tell Kyle that every time we talk."

Are we going to pretend Gore doesn't know what he's talking about?

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

George Kittle: "Frustrating for sure... The penalties on offense all the pre snap penalties, that's just bad football. I don't put that on coach Shanahan. I don't put that on the wide receiver's coach, the o-line coach, tight end's coach, that's on us." pic.twitter.com/vJZB9IKtqB

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) December 23, 2024

But Cheetos dust fingers told us this morning it's all on the HC

They tell us lots of stuff.

I posted this a bit ago but here's Frank Gore talking about Kyle :

Originally posted by evil:

"You gotta understand, I'm being real—Kyle is smart as hell," Gore told Matt Maiocco and Jennifer Lee-Chan. "When I sit in meetings with him at times, [I'm] surprised how much he knows about the game. How he dials up the plays and how he looks at stuff, to make things look so simple.

"That's why I think the guys who would come in, he makes it simple for them. He shows them their first read, he's showing how to line , get off the ball, and he makes it easy for the guys."

"I would have went crazy in this system. I would have went crazy," Gore confidently stated. "I probably would have had 20,000 [rushing yards]."

"I tell Kyle that, though," Gore added. "When I sat down and watched how he goes over things, I said, 'Bro, I would have had 20,000 yards in this system.' I tell Kyle that every time we talk."

Are we going to pretend Gore doesn't know what he's talking about?

What does that have to do with gameday management... in-game adjustments... choosing which personnel gets playing time...etc?

That's Kyle's issue.. he can brake things down all he wants before a game, but that is not the only important thing about being a great Head Coach. A great Leader.

Edit- but let me add to that before some go crazy... has Kyle been a successful Head Coach? yes. Is he a great Head Coach? Imo, no. And I jump to that because I don't see him changing. And he never gives the impression that he'll change/learn from his mistakes... because he rarely admits mistakes. So as we lose our talent here and there, after Brock gets his deal...I don't understand how some see us looking better in the next few years. Better than our previous successful years, and Kyle couldn't win a Super Bowl with those stacked teams.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

George Kittle: "Frustrating for sure... The penalties on offense all the pre snap penalties, that's just bad football. I don't put that on coach Shanahan. I don't put that on the wide receiver's coach, the o-line coach, tight end's coach, that's on us." pic.twitter.com/vJZB9IKtqB

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) December 23, 2024

But Cheetos dust fingers told us this morning it's all on the HC

They tell us lots of stuff.

I posted this a bit ago but here's Frank Gore talking about Kyle :

Originally posted by evil:

"You gotta understand, I'm being real—Kyle is smart as hell," Gore told Matt Maiocco and Jennifer Lee-Chan. "When I sit in meetings with him at times, [I'm] surprised how much he knows about the game. How he dials up the plays and how he looks at stuff, to make things look so simple.

"That's why I think the guys who would come in, he makes it simple for them. He shows them their first read, he's showing how to line , get off the ball, and he makes it easy for the guys."

"I would have went crazy in this system. I would have went crazy," Gore confidently stated. "I probably would have had 20,000 [rushing yards]."

"I tell Kyle that, though," Gore added. "When I sat down and watched how he goes over things, I said, 'Bro, I would have had 20,000 yards in this system.' I tell Kyle that every time we talk."

Are we going to pretend Gore doesn't know what he's talking about?

Most former current and past players are going to be on topic most subjects 49s. It's when you can get some input from a knowlegible source outside of 9ers where you will get an unbiased opinion.

George is awesome, but he would walk thru hell before ever making a negative comment on anything 9ers related as he should. Not a player or a messy coach will ever be mentioned.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

George Kittle: "Frustrating for sure... The penalties on offense all the pre snap penalties, that's just bad football. I don't put that on coach Shanahan. I don't put that on the wide receiver's coach, the o-line coach, tight end's coach, that's on us." pic.twitter.com/vJZB9IKtqB

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) December 23, 2024

But Cheetos dust fingers told us this morning it's all on the HC

Lol this s**t has been happening all year, every game and it's not on the coach? That's pretty stupid lol. Ridiculously stupid actually.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I can understand injuries. I can understand failure to execute. But, how do you excuse Kyle from all the mental mistakes? The lack of discipline? Penalties? Inability to field an offensive line that provides a little bit of pass protection? The inability to calls plays that match the personnel on the field? How is it Kyle escapes responsibility for the areas that are in fact his responsibility? You can only point to past success to excuse current failures for so long. It's starting to catch up to him. The injuries are horrible, horrendous and all that but this team is playing ugly football. I could stomach the losses due to 3rd stringers failing to execute but I can't turn a blind eye to the entire team playing stupid football. Kyle supporters turn to his 3 failed superbowls and nfcc champion appearances anytime someone points out the glaring problems with his current performance. They are just not being honest with themselves. The other thing people bank on is the 2020 season and how we came back the following year…. It's a different team with many more challenges. We are not going to automatically come back and dominate the nfc. Wake up. No o line. No #1 receiver for a big chunk of next year, green law always injured, we see how bad the d is without him…, and finally a qb who is playing more and more like the bad version of jimmy g, and let's not forget we will be limited in adding free agents because jimmy v2 will walk away with a 60m bag.. We are so screwed. I actually feel bad for Kyle. He has dug himself into a very deep hole and there is no easy way out of it. Next year goal is not the Super Bowl. It's not even making the playoffs.. it's getting back .500 football and building momentum by filling some of the holes we have and last but not least it's getting the team to play smart, clean football. If he can do that it's a success. A new playbook would be icing on the cake. If he can do that then maybe he is worth keeping. Maybe.

Kyle's play calling was fine yesterday. It may have been one of his better games. Guys lining up offside or illegal motion isn't on him. The players need to take responsibility for that and they do. They aren't blaming the coach. He used Deebo well yesterday. He kept feeding the ball to Kittle with success. The running game was non existent but they're on their 5th string back running behind 2nd and 3rd string linemen.

Come on catch. Really? So he gets credit regardless of the outcome? Win or lose he is still the great Kyle? This tells me he can do no wrong in your eyes.

George Kittle: "Frustrating for sure... The penalties on offense all the pre snap penalties, that's just bad football. I don't put that on coach Shanahan. I don't put that on the wide receiver's coach, the o-line coach, tight end's coach, that's on us." pic.twitter.com/vJZB9IKtqB

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) December 23, 2024

But Cheetos dust fingers told us this morning it's all on the HC

Lol this s**t has been happening all year, every game and it's not on the coach? That's pretty stupid lol. Ridiculously stupid actually.

Tell me you never played organized sports without telling me

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Method:
Uh... Tom Brady literally asked if he can come here and Shanalynch said no we are good with Jimmy g.

Move on.

At that point everyone thought Brady was done…even Bill….Jimmy was just coming off a SB run.

love how people have selective memory on what really happened.

OH and they tried to get Brady. Twice. He tried to get Rogers and Stafford as well.

With that said, if Rodgers says he wants to finish his career here and Brock plays hardball asking for 60+, does Kyle make the same mistake twice ?

Rodgers isa fkin weirdo and trash now, did you not look up the game yesterday? Rodgers has everything going for him in NYJ and all the HOF QB can muster up is a 4 win season so far!!!

I wish we could pull up your posts when this all went down with Tom Brady. I bet your comments were very similar to what you just posted.

some of you guys never learn.
just tow the company line.

That's one of the worse things about this forum. Not having a proper archive of posts.. not having a proper/updated way to search for posts, through a member's profile. Post history, time and date. Hell our messages disappear when we send them. Preservation is so important for a forum. For life in general.

I'm telling yall this forum would be much better if we had those features/options.